Xbox One 2014 plans reportedly leak, white and cheaper models inbound

With 2014 just getting started, a user over at NeoGAF is apparently dropping a knowledge bomb of information about Microsoft’s plans for the upcoming year. As with all leaked info, take it with a healthy dose of salt as none of it has been verified but much of it does align to whispers we have heard from around the web.

Posted below is the information that has been stated so far and none of it seems all that far-fetched; the biggest item may be the Xbox One for $399 without an optical drive. Of course, a drive-less Xbox One rumor has popped up before but nothing sounds concrete at this time; most of the other information is related to games that will be released during 2014.

  • Forza Horizon: "Fall 2014, probably September. Super sexy weather system and... lots of co-op/social stuff. 1080P and open-world, so you can road trip with your bros."
  • White Xbone incoming.
  • Why all the leaks? Scared you might get caught? "I am incapable of fear. Plus, this is such exciting stuff, and me talking about it ahead of time isn't going to hurt anything, truthfully. We're all chomping at the bit for it to come out. This is not bad. "
  • Halo Anniversary 2 will be 1080p, iffy on the 60fps, maybe not.
  • Quantum Break is Holiday 2014
  • Multiplayer confirmed for HA2, same devs as Halo Anniversary.
  • Sunset Overdrive is Fall 2014
  • Black Tusk cancelled project was called "Shangheist." May have involved stealing stuff from the Chinese (though I think that may have been a reference to the name and maybe not the gameplay? Not sure...)
  • Fable Legends is Summer 2015
  • Halo 2 Anniversary includes beta for Halo 5
  • Gears of War will probably need a 2.5 year dev time.
  • First Titanfall DLC is 45 days from release, then another one 120 days from release.
  • No Crackdown 3 news this year most likely, since it's a 2016 title.
  • $399 XB1 this year? "Maybe one without an Optical Disc Drive."
  • 1TB XB1 in November (Limited Edition)

One item that does stand out is a white version of the Xbox One. We already know that Microsoft has made a console in this color, but it was previously only given to the team who helped make the console. It’s not that far-fetched that they would switch the die for the plastic back to white and pump out the consoles to help move a few more units once black becomes a bit common in stores around the US.

The good news for those of you who are in territories where the Xbox One is not on sale yet, posted below are the reported plans for the Xbox One to be released in additional territories.

April October
Japan China
S. Korea Poland
Taiwan Czech Republic
Singapore Hungary
Hong Kong Greece
Russia Portugal
Sweden Slovakia
Norway Turkey
Finland Saudi Arabia
Denmark South Africa
Colombia UAE
Chile Israel
Argentina India
  Indonesia
  Egypt

As with all rumors, especially one like this, be cautious as the information could be off target. With that being said, if accurate, Microsoft's can of beans just got spilled on the web and if it holds true, it should be an exciting year for the Xbox One.

Source: NeoGAF

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I want a crystal one like my old Xbox... Crystal with some blue LED's, Good fun looks nice (until lights are turned out and you get blinded by the blue LED's ofc but hope with an off switch.)

I don't give a **** about halo and halo 2 remakes. I want the new halo.

Anyone else?

Quantum Break is out during the holidays this year and The Division doesn't have a release date yet. Guess I'm waiting until august to buy the xbox one. I would buy it now for dead rising and BF 4. However after reading all the bad stuff about BF4, i'll pass. And I'm not spending that much money and only having one game that gets my attention.

Considering one of the selling points for the One is it's now truly region free (unlike 360), it would be daft to buy a console without a disc drive unless you're one of the FIFA/COD bros. Every now and then a title doesn't get released in your region that you can simply import from USA/Asia/Japan. Or sometimes importing works out cheaper, is an uncensored copy or gets released 6 months before another region.

Wrong, the Xbox One allows you to change your region and thus marketplace with a simple change of a setting. It even accepts then foreign to that setting PayPal accounts to buy (or import if you look at it) its content. All content on disc in stores is now mandatorily available digitally as well, so the optical driveless Xbox One is a very good idea as an optional SKU.

An Idea here regarding diskless units and download only, and while I know that disks wont go anywhere anytime soon (nor do I want them to as choice is good) I personally feel fine with downloading all my stuff. Now there are those that have slower connections or datacaps etc. and would like to stick with disks ONLY because they would take to long to download or use up their data caps.

The idea: game shops have ATM style devices installed, you setup an account with the provider (MS/Sony/3rd party that can cater for both?) and you get a usb 3.0 64GB flash drive. This flash drive is linked to your account. You go to the shop and buy a game, but instead of taking a disk home you plug in your flash drive and walk out with the game on there - this is simply to save you from the download on your home connection.

These ATM devices could be installed in all sorts of places if successful.

I know it seems like an answer to a problem that doesn't exist, but it will allow the transition to diskless systems without anyone being inconvenienced in the process.

Things like the family sharing etc could then go ahead, and possibly these units could handle licensing issues to enable game sales for purely digital versions (just a license transfer back to the shop/service for an agreed fee, which they can sell as a used license just as they would a used game), maybe it would only work in a trade in style (money off a new game) or maybe it would credit your account.

Just an idea anyway.

My Prediction...

1. XBox Limited Edition (White)
2. XBox with 1TB Hard Disk
3. Slightly modded Xbox One to give access to HD for upgrade. Possibly End of Year or in 2015
4. XBox will finally get some version of a Windows Media Centre for proper DLNA streaming.

Personally I don't think a XBox without a Blue Ray will happen.

"With 2014 just getting started, a user over at NeoGAF is apparently dropping a knowledge"

really verifiable source. /s

C'MON!.

If this is true and they release a newer model with a 1TB drive in November (not the white LE version), then the current 500GB models should get their price cut before hand, probably to $399 with the new 1TB model going for the original $499 price. That's usually how it's always worked out in the past with the 360. Besides the rumor about a smaller BD-less XB1 isn't new, the idea of a pure entertainment/set-top box type model has been around since last April or so. If they did do it it'd have to be after the first hardware revision/shrink, don't know if it's too soon for that but who knows? That model would have a lower price to, IMO, I'm thinking $299 with a deal from the cable providers.

The white controller looks nice, but the system? Yuck! I prefer black. Happy about Halo Anniversary 2 getting made.

'a user over at NeoGAF'

Always reminds me of Harry Enfield sketches:

"Really? Who told you that?"
"Bloke down the pub."
"Bloke down the pub?"
"Yeah. Bloke down the pub."
"Oh ... then it must be true."

kravex said,
'a user over at NeoGAF'

Always reminds me of Harry Enfield sketches:

"Really? Who told you that?"
"Bloke down the pub."
"Bloke down the pub?"
"Yeah. Bloke down the pub."
"Oh ... then it must be true."


Makes more sense if you realise that neowin lifted this story from the verge who claim that their sources independently verify this posters claim. Shame neowin missed that bit from their plagerism.

Welcome to the current day blogosphere where anybody who's a nobody can yell something and get the mass attention from the "press" without verifying anything.

White Xbox One coming? Awesome! And if it's cheaper, then than that'll just be the cherry on top. There was no reason to buy it on day one anyway. Let the beta testers weed out all the issues.

This would've been a lot more promising if they had perhaps included a model without Kinect.

With all the reversals they made about online sales, I sincerely doubt we'll ever see a model without a disc.

Sans optical drive? I think there's a market for it if they price is lower. I still wouldn't pay 399 for it. Not yet at least.

Those who say $100 for an optical drive? are forgetting it's NOT ONLY for the drive... they're cutting less material, and probably adding a bigger hard drive since people would be downloading more. Optical discs for distribution is dying rapidly anyway... look at the CD/DVD/BluRay market, most people are downloading now.

It's a future ready console and I like it.

Why are people acting like rumors from NeoGAF are the gospel?
Do people not realize optical drives aren't $100? Removing the optical drive wouldn't drop the cost to $399. They'd also have to put in a larger HDD which would drive the cost back up. You don't fragment the community that early in the cycle.

Most Xbox One owners figured on Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon, Quantum Break and a Halo game this year. It makes the most sense to wait until next year for Halo 5 because the install base will be larger then and you can tide people over with the Halo game that most fans think was the best, complete with a full online mode.

Crapgamer said,
Why are people acting like rumors from NeoGAF are the gospel?
Do people not realize optical drives aren't $100? Removing the optical drive wouldn't drop the cost to $399. They'd also have to put in a larger HDD which would drive the cost back up. You don't fragment the community that early in the cycle.

Most Xbox One owners figured on Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon, Quantum Break and a Halo game this year. It makes the most sense to wait until next year for Halo 5 because the install base will be larger then and you can tide people over with the Halo game that most fans think was the best, complete with a full online mode.


Halo 4 was my favorite, online was cool.

How about an option without the Kinect bundled? The novelty wears off within a few months. No optical drive(though I prefer a drive) and no Kinect for $379.

Kinect is too 'involved' at a system level would be my guess as to why MS would resist that to the bitter end.

They want it to be considered just another feature of the box, not as a separate thing.

That would be stupid and default the purpose of being an Xbox 'ONE'. The reason why Kinect is bundled this time is so developers can actually develop for it... whereas before they were hesitant because no one had one. Also, this enables all the voice commands that make X1 awesome.

j2006 said,
That would be stupid and default the purpose of being an Xbox 'ONE'. The reason why Kinect is bundled this time is so developers can actually develop for it... whereas before they were hesitant because no one had one. Also, this enables all the voice commands that make X1 awesome.
I find the current Kinect less than awesome. Over time I'm sure it should live up to its hype. However, I understand the other things pointed out.

JHBrown said,
How about an option without the Kinect bundled? The novelty wears off within a few months. No optical drive(though I prefer a drive) and no Kinect for $379.

Now that WOULD created fragmentation. Do you not get the reason they included it in the first place? Its so devs can be assured its there and can do stuff with it, its an 8 year lifecycle so the lack of anything compelling in its first 2 months is meaningless.

Those saying $100 is an expensive drive are forgetting the fees that Microsoft probably has to pay (to Sony) in order to play Blu-ray disks.

We download just about everything now -- it would be very attractive -- especially if support for 360 games is added somehow.

They aren't paying fees to Sony. Sony is on the board of many that helped design Blu-ray. Just like they were on the board that designed DVD, CD and various other formats. It's likely 1 penny per drive used. And Microsoft already uses Blu-ray in various products, and Sony uses Microsoft Windows and products in their own goods.

No disc drive wouldn't drive costs down $100. They'd also have to install a much larger HDD 1-2TB because you can't switch out the HDD in the console. That would drive up the cost of the console past what it already is.

You're right, it's to the Blu Ray Disk Association. But it's far from 1 penny per drive.

http://www.blu-raydisc.info/license-app/flla-app.php

I also checked -- the cheapest standard drive on Amazon is $49.95. Considering the slim margins there I wouldn't expect the cost to be much lower -- maybe $39. If you factor in the fact that the XB1 drive is customized to support DRM and would therefore not benefit (as much) by economies of scale, I could see it's cost nearing $50 to $60 depending on what features and build quality it has. It's also very likely that there are other areas Microsoft could cut costs to get that remaining $40-$50 off -- like a slightly cheaper power supply or some of the supporting hardware that would no longer be necessary with the absence of the BDR. They could even just take a slight margin hit to make it a nice round number. The point is, dropping the BDR and offering the system for $100 less is plausible.

Also, all XB1 games install fully to the hard drive -- they do not run from the disk. So there's no requirement to install a larger hard drive.

And exactly what other Microsoft products use Blu ray?

Edited by Forjo, Jan 30 2014, 3:41am :

You act as if Microsoft buying drives in bulk wouldn't get them a discounted rate. They probably pay $15 per drive. And even though you install the games now anyway, going fully digital would almost require a larger HDD. I mean I feel like I need at least a 1TB drive and I've only had my console since launch.

If you think taking out a $15 drive is going to lower the cost $100 you're crazy. I think we might see a slim version in a couple of years. That being said, Microsoft is making money per console sold. I don't think they look at the "console war" the way most ignorant gamers do. They like and want to make money and they are currently doing that.

Microsoft offers Blu-ray drives in PC's. They've even ordered large shipments in the past.

What!? I can get a Blu-Ray burner for $30!
N/m it was a promo, that's what I payed for my ASUS at any rate, works great.

I don't think you really understand economies of scale. The XB1 drives have custom components, as I indicated.

Microsoft makes exactly 4 different PCs -- and they're all Surfaces without Blu-ray drives.

And since you've resorted to name-calling, I'll just let you have this one. It's not worth my time.

Crapgamer said,
You act as if Microsoft buying drives in bulk wouldn't get them a discounted rate. They probably pay $15 per drive. And even though you install the games now anyway, going fully digital would almost require a larger HDD. I mean I feel like I need at least a 1TB drive and I've only had my console since launch.

If you think taking out a $15 drive is going to lower the cost $100 you're crazy. I think we might see a slim version in a couple of years. That being said, Microsoft is making money per console sold. I don't think they look at the "console war" the way most ignorant gamers do. They like and want to make money and they are currently doing that.

Microsoft offers Blu-ray drives in PC's. They've even ordered large shipments in the past.


they have not order blueray drives for PC. They enabled support and 3rd parties are the one that making the drive.

Can't see the no DVD version every coming to light. As mentioned, more fragmenting of the market. They do need to get the price down though

jerzdawg said,
Can't see the no DVD version every coming to light. As mentioned, more fragmenting of the market. They do need to get the price down though

How would it fragment, you can currently buy game son disk or download, a driveless version would mean you an only download (if you choose the driveless option). Its like saying ultrabooks without drives have fragmented the laptop market, duh.

I would love this, as I don't need a drive and am happy downloading, others that want disks would still do that, nothing changes unless you CHOOSE the version with no drive, but that's a conscious decision based on choice.

duddit2 said,

How would it fragment, you can currently buy game son disk or download, a driveless version would mean you an only download (if you choose the driveless option). Its like saying ultrabooks without drives have fragmented the laptop market, duh.

I would love this, as I don't need a drive and am happy downloading, others that want disks would still do that, nothing changes unless you CHOOSE the version with no drive, but that's a conscious decision based on choice.


you could be correct, but people more likely to buy a laptop than ultrabook. online only was if people can afford bandwidth. even Ms said that bandwidth was a problem for most of us.

Oh man I have a One, but I'd gladly pick up a white one for sure!

I hope all of this is legit, except the Optical Drive-less model that is just silly.

Ehm we had that for quite sometime now... My 1000 Mbit/s line should be sufficent? Before that i had a 250mbit/s line but as you well know you gotta have the latest.

Kenny Kanashimi Chu said,

lol we don't even have the bandwidth to stream games yet.

As-in: a cheaper version with no optical drive where you download games, not stream them.

Antoine Prince said,
im all over this, so I can ditch Steam. I practically download games like its mp3 now. who still uses CD's? Just give us 1 or 2 terabytes.

I don't think Microsoft will ever release a custom firmware that support 1 or 2 TB. Maybe down the road.

Limited edition 1tb... grr, just allow the external drive, or switching of the internal drives and stop the gimmicks.

Skin said,
Limited edition 1tb... grr, just allow the external drive, or switching of the internal drives and stop the gimmicks.

They do (or are?) allow external drives...

spenser.d said,

They do (or are?) allow external drives...

No one knows for sure at this point. They said they will, but as of now, if, how big, and when is unknown.

Skin said,
Limited edition 1tb... grr, just allow the external drive, or switching of the internal drives and stop the gimmicks.

Most people do not find it convenient to have an external hard drive sitting on top of their console just to install their games. I know I don't. I'd rather have a larger internal hard drive.

Jarrichvdv said,

Most people do not find it convenient to have an external hard drive sitting on top of their console just to install their games. I know I don't. I'd rather have a larger internal hard drive.


Most people don't care either way...

spenser.d said,


Most people don't care either way...


The 360 was limited to 16GB even if an external drive was there. So I ended up upgrading mine for an affordable price. I don't think Xbox One allows bigger storage yet, at least I have not herd about Microsoft releasing a installable firmware yet.

It's obviously not only for the drive. It probably includes a slightly different design (less parts) and probably a bigger hard drive since it would be download only. I think it's a great idea.

techbeck said,
100 off for not having an optical drive.... One expensive drive.

All games would come through store, so MS get a bigger cut, hence can knock more off initial price. I'd choose this option since I don't need the drive.

Removal of an optical drive? That's not a $100 part. Maybe they're subsidizing it? Or already have a more efficient design underway? Both? I don't know...

Could be interesting, but I'd just as soon see a 360 sans optical drive, with hard drive, for $149 or $199.

It could add up to ~$100, don't forget it's a BD Drive and MS have to pay licensing fees for playing BD and DVD movies etc. While not huge costs to MS I'd imagine it does add up.

Disc-less XBONE would fragment market. Halo Anniversary 2 and Halo 2 Anniversary?? Second remake of original and first remake of second, or are they speaking specifically about Halo 2?

AR556 said,
Disc-less XBONE would fragment market. Halo Anniversary 2 and Halo 2 Anniversary?? Second remake of original and first remake of second, or are they speaking specifically about Halo 2?

Not saying these are accurate rumors, but it wouldn't really fragment anything since all games can be downloaded.

AR556 said,
Disc-less XBONE would fragment market.

How so? Doesn't the XBO install to HDD anyways? Can't you buy purely digital versions of the games anyways? I'm not seeing this causing a fragmentation issue... Or at least a significant one.

AR556 said,
Disc-less XBONE would fragment market. Halo Anniversary 2 and Halo 2 Anniversary?? Second remake of original and first remake of second, or are they speaking specifically about Halo 2?

It wouldn't really lead to any fragmentation... It would just be inconvenient as you would need to download everything. Otherwise, the only thing it wouldn't do is play movies...

M_Lyons10 said,

It wouldn't really lead to any fragmentation... It would just be inconvenient as you would need to download everything. Otherwise, the only thing it wouldn't do is play movies...

Downloading is more convenient.

Crimson Rain said,

Downloading is more convenient.

If digital copies are available for DL as physical media, then it would still fragment the market by taking the availability of titles from those that cannot afford the bandwidth and catering to those that can. Caps are very real in the USA. Most major ISPs have them. I guess one could make the case that by buying a disc-less system, you know ahead of time that its digital or nothing, but I think its still a bad idea all around. Even with a 1TB drive, it wouldn't take long to fill up. It would end up becoming a game of managing your space. Delete this, DL that.

Go ahead and release it and see how the market accepts it, but I think we're at least one generation away from it being truly viable, with the end game being streaming only.

Crimson Rain said,

Downloading is more convenient.

But has more caveats. Not everywhere has good, affordable broadband, sadly. Heaven help you if you're like one friend of mine who can only get wireless, thus adding data caps to the equation

Chikairo said,

But has more caveats. Not everywhere has good, affordable broadband, sadly. Heaven help you if you're like one friend of mine who can only get wireless, thus adding data caps to the equation

I agree, buy why would someone without access to fast inexpensive broadband buy a cheaper XB1 that only saves $100?

If this happens, I would expect good packaging information, but really...


(Also there are still talks about SD/USB game/movie releases in the next year or so, and that would kill the need for an optical drive for even users without a fast broadband connection.)

Fragmant the market? How? It would only remove one of the options of distribution to the current Xbox One. The ability to play the games would not differ from either system. To fragment the market they would have to remove the Kinect (never going happen). Besides, as many point out this type of distribution is the wave of the future. Out of the 6 games we own, only Forza was a disc purchase. All the other games we purchased were via digital distribution. Furthermore, it is not like they would stop selling the X1 with the drive, it would just be a different boxed option. If this option comes out you could pick which system fits your needs.


That being said there a few issues with the digital distribution Microsoft needs to speed up. One of the issues for me would be the pricing. Microsoft has to lower the digital pricing and get more active on the sales. Why am I paying the same price for digital over a actual disc. Another note, after 8-12 months after a games release I want to see bargain pricing for items not in high demand. Steam is great at this and Microsoft needs to learn this or this X1 digital model will never take off like they want. Secondly, if they plan to go back to this more heavily digital focused model they need to bring back the family share plan. Not the current version but the one announced before all the whining about the 24hr checks and resale issues. Of course, if this does come back this option would only be available to digitally purchased games. This sharing option was one of the tope two reasons I really was excited about the X1 system.

Edited by pjosephson, Jan 30 2014, 6:54am :

madd-hatter said,
Nintendo and MS keep making white consoles but I've never heard anyone say they'd rather have a white console. I know I don't...
I like white

madd-hatter said,
Nintendo and MS keep making white consoles but I've never heard anyone say they'd rather have a white console. I know I don't...

I am going to buy a 2nd Xbox One just for the white color. I'll put it in the bedroom or sth... but I NEED to have that sexy thing in my life.

madd-hatter said,
Nintendo and MS keep making white consoles but I've never heard anyone say they'd rather have a white console. I know I don't...

I'd rather have a white console. Or a halo edition one. Just not black.

Kenny Kanashimi Chu said,
isn't the white Xbox One are the rare console? or something

It has been extremely rare, but that seems to end if they release it to the public.

madd-hatter said,
Nintendo and MS keep making white consoles but I've never heard anyone say they'd rather have a white console. I know I don't...

Don't care, tbh, whatever is cheaper works for me.

Jarrichvdv said,

I am going to buy a 2nd Xbox One just for the white color. I'll put it in the bedroom or sth... but I NEED to have that sexy thing in my life.

I'm sure there is a psychological condition that explains this type of behavior. I don't know what it's called but I know it's not considered healthy...

madd-hatter said,

I'm sure there is a psychological condition that explains this type of behavior. I don't know what it's called but I know it's not considered healthy...

(ssht, I was already going to buy 2 consoles eventually, one for the living room and one for the bedroom but I was purposefully postponing the 2nd Xbox One because i was waiting for the white version)

$399 XB1 this year? "Maybe one without an Optical Disc Drive."

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.

MightyJordan said,

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.
You know what's funny? I've owned 3 PSPs, the PSPGo was my favorite. And if they made a cheaper version without an optical drive, it would be the one i would go for IF i was going to buy one

MightyJordan said,

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.

I don't think I'd give up my optical drive... That means no Blurays, downloading everything... Ugh...

Rudy said,
You know what's funny? I've owned 3 PSPs, the PSPGo was my favorite. And if they made a cheaper version without an optical drive, it would be the one i would go for IF i was going to buy one

Out of curiosity, why was the PSP Go your favourite one? Was it the compact sliding design? That was the only advantage I can remember it having over the previous models, and in my opinion it doesn't balance out the biggest drawback, which is you're at the mercy of the PlayStation Store prices; you can only buy games from there, and you have to pay their prices. That's why I'd reckon an Xbox One without a disc drive would be a mistake, as there's already been a fuss kicked up over the prices of games on the Xbox Live Marketplace, and the sales too, which are frankly feeble in comparison to all the competitors (PlayStation Store, Steam, Desura, etc.)

M_Lyons10 said,

I don't think I'd give up my optical drive... That means no Blurays, downloading everything... Ugh...

Is this even possible? I thought with the Xbox 360, not every game was available on demand to buy from the store and some you had to buy in store. Are all Xbox One games available through the store at their over 30GB size?

Sionic Ion said,

Is this even possible? I thought with the Xbox 360, not every game was available on demand to buy from the store and some you had to buy in store. Are all Xbox One games available through the store at their over 30GB size?


They are, yes. But I have no desire to download them myself. LOL

Since when does an optical drive cost $100? Also, why 1TB XO limited edition when you want people to start downloading your stuff?

What a joke.

MightyJordan said,

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.

...You do realize this was their original plan when the console was announced? Every disc is authored identical as downloadable content. Both PS4 and One are like this. They could easily kill the discs and put the games on 64GB USB-style sticks. 70+MB/s USB3 beats the hell out of any style optical these days.

Edited by srbeen, Jan 30 2014, 3:33am :

MightyJordan said,

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.

Big mistake? What are you smoking? I'd love a drive less XBone. I've owned a 360 for 6 months and have yet to put a disc in the drive.

MightyJordan said,

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.

It would obviously be an OPTION. Many people like myself actually have good internet and would love XB1 without a pointless optical drive. Steam has nothing but downloads and look how well that does.

Steam is not a entertainment device.

Pointless optical drive? You have a radio in your car so does that make the cd player pointless? Some people actually want high quality. If I had to choose streaming a movie or getting my butt off the couch and putting in a Blu-ray, I'd get off the couch every time. And I have a 50Mb connection.

Jlobb2 said,
Steam is not a entertainment device.

Pointless optical drive? You have a radio in your car so does that make the cd player pointless? Some people actually want high quality. If I had to choose streaming a movie or getting my butt off the couch and putting in a Blu-ray, I'd get off the couch every time. And I have a 50Mb connection.

I'm talking about games. Theres no loss in quality from downloading a game, it's exactly the same as the disc version.

And facts speak for themselfs. Most people download movies and music these days. Loads of people would buy a XB1 with no drive, theres no doubt about this. I have no disc drive in my PC or laptop and have not used the XB1's drive at all. If you want discs then good for you, there will still be a option with a optical drive so whats your problem? And who honestly uses a CD player in their car now. What century do you live in. You can get higher sound quality from digital formats.

MightyJordan said,

Big mistake if this one turned out to be true; it'd essentially be Microsoft's PSP Go.

I would choose this, I have 130Mbit connection so I don't mind downloading everything and I have a bluray surround unit that the xbox would plug into anyway, so using it for bluray would be fine.

M_Lyons10 said,
I don't think I'd give up my optical drive... That means no Blurays, downloading everything... Ugh...

I don't think I'd ever go back to an optical drive... that means fiddling about with discs, worrying about scratches, finding places to store them... ugh...