Learning Delphi

[FiREFLi]

Right, about to start learning delphi in college but of course their current provisions are considerably less than adequate. So, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good starter book and compiler, erm... just everything to get us started really. :huh:

Cheers. :ninja:

Any other information about starting delphi would also be very much appreciated. :happy:

[blik]

If you learned how to code proficiently in Turbo Pascal, Delphi would be a brease...

[Digital Pimp]

Dont seem to us Pascal that much these days in colleges.

Im interested in hearing what other got to say, as to advice on material to read to learn Delphi.

Been meaning to learn for a while now, got a book by Sams Teach Yourself Delphi in 21 Days. I dont personlly get on with the book much and want another.

[blik]

Pascal isnt being used much nowadays, but its good to know the fundamentals of a high level language before getting stuck in, its all well and good doing things visually, but when it comes to debugging a firm understanding of the underlying code helps enormously...

[FiREFLi]

Can someone please answer my original question :$ Thanks for all the comments and all but I just need to know where to get a compiler and a good starter book.

Apparently my college can't get a compiler for less than ?800, is that right?!:ss

[Gabureiru]

Well if you want to look into the future or just be up to date, try Delphi 7 they're implementing .NET soon.

For for beginners version 5 and 6 are very good. Delphi is not hard and it's OO with RAD, waaaay better than VB6. There are some books that can help you, some I have on .pdf. PM me for them

hope this helps

[FiREFLi]

Well if you want to look into the future or just be up to date, try Delphi 7 they're implementing .NET soon.

For for beginners version 5 and 6 are very good. Delphi is not hard and it's OO with RAD, waaaay better than VB6. There are some books that can help you, some I have on .pdf. PM me for them

hope this helps

Thanks, that's handy :) I could really do with some real books, like... with pages and paper and stuff :p

OO = Object Oriented

RAD = ?

I really need a compiler! :D Pleaseee :ninja:

[_tux_]

first off, delphi is not the programming language. thats object pascal.

if you want to make native win32 apps then get delphi 7 from http://www.borland.co.uk or if you want to make .net then get delphi 8

i learnt delphi with the book "delphi made simple" it basicly takes you through making a payroll thing. ill be happy to give it to you (but you pay for postage) just pm me.

[edit] noticed ure in uk, changed borland site to uk one :p [/edit]

[FiREFLi]

What exactly am I downloading if I download "Delphi 7"? (which is the version I would get) Is there a compiler on there? for free or cheap?

[_tux_]

its the full suit. like visual studio

[azcodemonkey]

What exactly am I downloading if I download "Delphi 7"? (which is the version I would get) Is there a compiler on there? for free or cheap?

Download the Personal edition of Delphi. It's a full visual development environment. You're free to use it and distribute freeware programs.

[xxpor]

first off, delphi is not the programming language. thats object pascal.

No, they renamed it to Delphi languge or something similer.

[Bearded Kirklander]

Download the Personal edition of Delphi. It's a full visual development environment. You're free to use it and distribute freeware programs.

So delphi personal edition is 100% free to download and use?

Architecht is the COMMERCIAL version? Personal is the "lite" version?

[azcodemonkey]

So delphi personal edition is 100% free to download and use?

Architecht is the COMMERCIAL version?  Personal is the "lite" version?

Yep. Even with the "lite" version, you can write good client apps. It's great for learning.

[edit]

It looks like Borland has removed the download for Delphi 7 Personal, at least on the US site... bummer.

[Bearded Kirklander]

Yep. Even with the "lite" version, you can write good client apps. It's great for learning.

I can't seem to find a link to the free Borland Delphi 7 Personal. Can you provide one? I'd like to give it a try. Thanks.

[azcodemonkey]

Borland isn't allowing download anymore. You can get a key for free from Borland, though. Use your favorite p2p to find Delphi 7 Personal. it's only 53MB. I found it on the mule lickety-split. still, $100 ain't bad for having the media and manuals. It's $97 on programmersparadise.com.

[Bearded Kirklander]

Borland isn't allowing download anymore. You can get a key for free from Borland, though. Use your favorite p2p to find Delphi 7 Personal. it's only 53MB. I found it on the mule lickety-split. still, $100 ain't bad for having the media and manuals. It's $97 on programmersparadise.com.

Oh. That's kind of a bummer. But I appreciate you letting me know. Thanks. (Y)

[xxpor]

So delphi personal edition is 100% free to download and use?

Architecht is the COMMERCIAL version? Personal is the "lite" version?

Arcitect is the most expensive comerchal one, there are others.

[FiREFLi]

Arcitect is the most expensive comerchal one, there are others.

Wow, a lot of that went *right* over my head :blush:

I just need to know a good, cheap Delphi 7 Compiler. I downloaded a 30 day architect trial, that's not the roght thing to do?

And I just read about downloading a key of the borland site and then getting the actual program from a p2p network. But then I heard mention of $100, :blink: Are the wtwo related? they charging $100 for the key? Or was that a separate matter altogether? :huh:

Cheers (Y) :)

[azcodemonkey]

Delphi Personal is $99 w/ physical media. It used to be that you could just download an archive of it. They've discontinued that. It has everything you need to get started with Delphi. If you are a student, you can get the Enterprise edition of Delphi for around the same price as the Personal edition. You can download the license key for the Personal edition. They're assuming you have the CD or the original archive.

[FiREFLi]

They're assuming you have the CD or the original archive.

I don't, now what?

[azcodemonkey]

Buy it? $100 is very cheap for a development tool of its calibre.

[Bearded Kirklander]

So the Personal edition has all the tools/routines you need, including dialog box components, directory trees, tabbed interface construction, database attachments, the whole deal?

[FiREFLi]

OK. I'll look into it, it's my college that's paying for it. Not me :yes: :p I'll have to ask what my budjet is.

[+virtorio MVC]

So the Personal edition has all the tools/routines you need, including dialog box components, directory trees, tabbed interface construction, database attachments, the whole deal?

It has all of that, minus many of the database components.

I believe it has some very simple database controls but I can't quite remember as I haven't used the Personal version for a long time.

[_tux_]

it has most of the things minus the advanced components and source code for the components (i think only the top level has that?)

but $100 is a very good price for it :D