official Forza Motorsport 4

[Ironman273]

Probably should. and I would be surprised if you couldn't change president later. the "clan" system seems fairly well thought out.

You probably could, but what if he's like a dictator and doesn't want to give up power? :p Can we overthrow the president?

[neoadorable]

the Forza games keep getting better. three was a huge improvement over two, just for the menu music it was worth the purchase! will def get this, even though i know it comes at the expense of my beloved PGR...

[Ironman273]

Forza Motorsport 4 Limited Collector's Edition

June 27, 2011by BRIAN EKBERG

The long wait is nearly over. Starting October 11, Forza Motorsport 4 will be unleashed, and the world of automotive entertainment will never be the same. Featuring unmatched graphics and innovative features designed to push the racing genre in brand new directions, Forza 4 will be the ultimate playground for car fans. Today we?ve got the details on the Limited Collector?s Edition of Forza Motorsport 4, which is also arriving starting on October 11.

Bundled together in a polished Steelbook DVD Case, the Limited Collector?s Edition content will include the following:

The VIP Car Pack:

• 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
  
• 2011 Ferrari 458 Challenge
  
• 2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
  
• 2010 Noble M600
  
• 2011 RUF Rt 12 R
  

The limited quantity ?Ship Bonus? car pack available for fans who order Forza 4 early:

• 1965 Ford Mustang GT Coupe
  
• 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
  
• 1997 Lexus SC300
  
• 2011 RUF RGT-8
  
• 2011 Tesla Roadster Sport
  

The Limited Collector's Edition will also include a ten-car add-on pack featuring a selection of the best classic American muscle cars. In addition, there will be custom-designed BMW cars (also available for purchase at launch on Xbox LIVE Marketplace) selected as part of the ?Forza Motorsport 4 BMW Design Challenge.?, as well as ?Cars of Forza Motorsport 4 Presented by Top Gear,? a gorgeous 96-page volume written by the editors at Top Gear. It features 96-pages of fantastic imagery both from Forza 4 and from Top Gear?s extensive photo library, as well as insightful commentary accompanying the in-game Autovista experience. Other goodies include: a set of vinyl stickers featuring the logos of ?Forza Motorsport 4,? ?Top Gear? and ?Turn 10;? VIP Membership status within the Forza community including special recognition in the Forza community, leaderboards, ForzaMotorsport.net and more; and an exclusive BMW theme available for download via Xbox LIVE Marketplace.

In addition to all the sweet stuff above, one of best reasons to get the LCE version of Forza 4 is the 2012 BMW M5, unveiled for the first time as the newest addition to the Forza 4 lineup at this weekend?s 24 Hour of N?rburgring race event in Germany. The new BMW M5 will be drivable first in Forza Motorsport 4 and will also be featured on the cover of the LCE version of the game. That means the stunning super-sedan will be automatically included in the LCE version of Forza 4, and all Xbox LIVE members will be able to download the car to drive. In addition, fans will be able to explore the meticulous design and impeccable execution of the BMW M5 via Autovista mode, where Top Gear?s Jeremy Clarkson will take fans on a virtual tour of the world?s most sought-after cars.

Stay tuned for more Forza Motorsport 4 news and announcements very soon!

Source: Forza Motorsports

[Hedon]

Pretty Nifty, but this same thing can be handled by the secondary stick, since Turn 10 can make the secondary one only for this purpose...

With the controller yes, but we can't with the wheel. Now we can, if we use Kinect.

GT5 still has the best lighting in a racing game. Forza looks like everything is coated in plastic :( That said, Forza 4 will no doubt be better than GT5...they've been steadily improving the series with each entry this generation...though I did feel as though the career in 3 was a bit stale after 10 hours.

GT5 had the best lighting, until Forza 4 was shown. The GT5 shots almost looked aged now in comparison.

[MightyJordan]

I'm so tempted to pre-order the LCE, but I have a feeling it'll be the same story as Forza 3, meaning it'll dramatically drop in price a couple of months after release. Plus, I haven't got a steering wheel for the 360. If Logitech's wheels were officially supported on the 360 (I know there's the XCM F1 adapter that'll allow Logitech's PS3/PC wheels to work on the 360 ((provided you've got a wired 360 controller)), but they're bloody expensive!), then I'd pre-order the LCE right now for the full ?60. But alas, it doesn't. :( Maybe I can pick up a cheap official 360 wheel (the old one, not that crappy wireless Mad Catz one with no force feedback); I've done it before (I got rid of it after a week, because I sucked at using steering wheels back then. On the bright side, I made ?20 profit :p ), so I should be able to do it again. Less than ?40 will be good enough for me. :)

[Hedon]

Lot's of wheel options for Forza 4, with yet another being announced this fall.

Racing Wheel Options for Forza 4

CSR Racing Wheel for Forza Motorsport 4:

http://www.forzamotorsport.net/en-us/Forza4_Wheels/

MadCatz Xbox 360 Racing Wheel:

http://www.madcatz.com/wheel

Fanatec Porsche 911 GT2 Racing Wheel for Xbox 360

http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=2302〈=en

Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo S Racing Wheel for Xbox 360

http://www.fanatec.de/html/index.php?id=250〈=en

Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Speed Wheel

Mad Catz Xbox 360 Racing Wheel

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Mad+Catz+-+MC2+Racing+Wheel+and+Pedals+for+Xbox+360/9926531.p?id=1218196190867&skuId=9926531&st=xbox%20360%20racing%20wheel&cp=1&lp=1

Xbox 360 Wireless Racing Wheel (discontinued, but can be found at select sites):

[MightyJordan]

I've never seen that CSR one before. I'll keep an eye on that one, but I imagine that will cost a lot.

That new Mad Catz one looks fairly good, and it's thankfully got force feedback this time. :) Plus the firmware updates via PC is a good idea too. There's only two things that make me sceptical about it: Mad Catz are saying that it's "being launched under their casual gaming brand", and steering wheels are one accessory I wouldn't really consider to be casual. And the other thing is that the quality of Mad Catz's products are, well, questionable, at times. There's lots of stories around various forums about Mad Catz products with questionable build quality, and, well, I've been a victim of that as well, with Rock Band 3's official pro drum kit, which Mad Catz make. I'll keep an eye on it, nevertheless, but I'll wait for a few comprehensive reviews first.

I actually looked at the Fanatec wheels just now, and I've got two words to say: hell no. The only model they sell now that is compatible with the 360 is the 911 GT2, which costs 250 Euros (about ?220), and doesn't even come with any pedals! Even after blowing over 200 quid on a steering wheel, you have to shell out another 40 Euros just for the pedals! And to top it off, it doesn't even come with paddle shifters or even a table clamp; you have to buy those separately as well! That is what I call a monumental Monster Cable-style ripoff.

The Wireless Speed Wheel isn't a steering wheel, it's a standalone verison of the Wii Wheel. :p

And that other Mad Catz one is the MC2, which doesn't have force feedback; just vibration feedback, so that's a no-no.

At the moment, I'll keep my sights locked on a second-hand version of Microsoft's wheel; that's still the best all-rounder on the 360. It's got force feedback, the build quality is good, and compared to wheels from Fanatec, it's good value for money.

[Hedon]

Actually, the Fanatec's available for the 360 are the Porsche Turbo S, the GT2 and of course, Fanatec makes the CSR and CSR Elite, which will be comparable to the G25/G27 in price, but better and will work on PS3, 360 and PC.

[MightyJordan]

Actually, the Fanatec's available for the 360 are the Porsche Turbo S, the GT2 and of course, Fanatec makes the CSR and CSR Elite, which will be comparable to the G25/G27 in price, but better and will work on PS3, 360 and PC.

I'm guessing the Turbo S is discontinued? Because there's only four wheels available for sale on the European webshop, and only one of them is compatible with the 360.

And I missed in the article that Fanatec's making the CSR wheels, so I'll cross those off my list. I refuse to spend more than ?100 on a steering wheel. :p I got the Driving Force GT for ?70, and it's a dream to use. I don't need alcantara steering wheels, or a clutch pedal, or an H-shifter. I'm more than happy with a rubber wheel, bog-standard "paddle-shifters" (which are actually big buttons), a little sequential stick, and two pedals. :)

[Hedon]

http://xboxfront.wl.gamereport.de/v/JlJj7w7eluL/Forza-Motorsport-4/N%C3%BCrburgring-Gameplay-und-Videovergleich-mit-Forza-3-und-GT5/

Nice. GT5 vs. FM4 on the ring in bimmers. Looks like FM4 has raised the bar my friends. Nice.

[Ironman273]

http://xboxfront.wl.gamereport.de/v/JlJj7w7eluL/Forza-Motorsport-4/N%C3%BCrburgring-Gameplay-und-Videovergleich-mit-Forza-3-und-GT5/

Nice. GT5 vs. FM4 on the ring in bimmers. Looks like FM4 has raised the bar my friends. Nice.

LOL It took a Forza update to bring out Soldier from the woodwork :D

[Hedon]

I have been lurking.....but the forums seems pretty dead lately...at least the PS/Xbox forum.

[SteelToast]

forza 4 looks SWEET, this game has pretty much maxxed the console to its limit, (like halo reach) which is amazing!

[RadishTM Veteran]

Will be pre-ordering the LCE (Y)

[furyshinobi]

Will be pre-ordering the LCE (Y)

Same here.. right after Deus Ex: Human Revolution (Y)

[Hedon]

forza 4 looks SWEET, this game has pretty much maxxed the console to its limit, (like halo reach) which is amazing!

Maxed..until they release Forza 5 ;)

[SteelToast]

Maxed..until they release Forza 5 ;)

Forza 5 probably for xbox 720, well thats my guess at least, this year and the next may bring the 360 its last good wave of games, and forza get a successor every 2 years or so...

[neoadorable]

welcome back soldier...and toast is right, Forza 5 is def 720, there's no doubt about it now. this is indeed the last big year of the 360 as the primary console for MS, enjoy it, it's been an awesome awesome ride!

[Hedon]

welcome back soldier...and toast is right, Forza 5 is def 720, there's no doubt about it now. this is indeed the last big year of the 360 as the primary console for MS, enjoy it, it's been an awesome awesome ride!

Even though the 720 will be here, MS says the 360 still has nearly 5 more years to go. We shall see if they port a version to the 360 as well.

[Dan~]

GT5 is going to look REALLY dated now. In my opinion Forza 3 looks much better and reacts more 'realistic' then GT5 does currently

[NoLiMiT06]

That BMW is gorgeous, I think I will be pre-ordering it next week :D Forza 3 is a much better game in every shape and form compared to GT5 IMO so Forza 4 is going to bury that debate!

[mikebiacsi]

I'm thinking pre-ordering might be a good idea too. :D

[Xerxes]

GT5 is going to look REALLY dated now. In my opinion Forza 3 looks much better and reacts more 'realistic' then GT5 does currently

GT5 was really "dated" the day it was released to be honest, it couldn't hold a candle to Forza 3. I mean I own both games and enjoy them both (and I definetly will be getting Forza 4, there is no doubt on that one) but unless Polyphony can pull a rabbit out of their hat* with GT6, GT is dead in the water to be honest. Don't get me wrong, GT5 is still a fantastic game but they got too ambitious (and it feels so unfinished, don't even get me started on the whole premium/standard car debarkle!) and they made the biggest mistake of doing it all in house (with such a tiny dev team), Turn 10 on the other hand has a much bigger dev team and outsourced the car models, so it's not wounder they can pump out better all round games in such a short time frame. That is my 2 cents, take with a grain of salt.

* = I expect they will, GT5 was a complete rewrite after all so most of their time was spent building the game engine, but this time [with GT6] they can spend more time polishing the engine alot more and adding in features etc to make it a better all round experience. So I'm confident Polyphony can redeem themselves.

Even though the 720 will be here, MS says the 360 still has nearly 5 more years to go. We shall see if they port a version to the 360 as well.

I hope they don't, much rather it being "Xbox 720" exclusive. I mean why would you want them to gimp it to run on the 360? much rather they took it to the next level on the 720 only, however, that is just me.

[AbandonedTrolley]

They hitting 1080p this time?

[Hedon]

They hitting 1080p this time?

Negative. 720p, 60fps