World IPv6 Day coming - Are you IPv6 ready?

By Roger H.
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  1. 1. IPv6 Readiness at Home?

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Grand Master

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"because I'm sure my ****ty ISP doesn't know what IPv6 is. "

Not sure what your ISP has to do with it really, unless they are blocking protocol 41, just setup a tunnel your ISP doesn't have to have anything to do with it.

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Inklin

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My ISP still has a lot of IPv4 addresses usable for the next 5 years

Quite a few ISP's seem to say that, but don't they realize - they may have enough to last themselves for a while, but other ISP's and web hosts are running out. That means the ISP's customers wont be able to reach some websites when it comes to websites having to go IPv6 only. It's a silly excuse IMO.

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Sorry but websites are not going to have to go to IPv6 only addresses for YEARS!!!

As to Arin running out - BS plain and simple, look on their site. They show 4.94 /8's left -- thats a **** LOAD of addresses ;) Nor have they tried to recover anything if you ask me.. We currently have a /16 and have not gotten one email asking about giving any of it back. And I should know Im the contact with arin for our netblock.

From their site

https://www.arin.net/resources/request/ipv4_depletion.html

Can I still get IPv4 address space from ARIN?

Yes, ARIN still has available IPv4 address space.

People can sure work themselves up over nothing thats for sure.. IPv6 day is a way to get ipv6 some attention sure, but its not anything the normal users going to have to worry about for years and years and years! Lots of webhosting is shared hosting anyway, lots and lots and lots of sites all on the 1 ipv4 address..

The switch to IPv6 is going to take years and years and years no matter how much they want to try and scare people about the lack of ipv4 addresses. Its the chicken before the egg sort of thing.. No reason to run on ipv6 if no users are on ipv6, not reason for users to be on ipv6 if no websites are only available via ipv6.

The only reason to do anything with ipv6 currently is your a geek/nerd and you want something to play with ;) Its fun to play with, but have no need or even actual use of it to be honest -- only reason I am currently running it on a few boxes at home is something to do and wanting to get my 1500 points on my sage status at HE, but in about 19 days I will have that so after that not even sure if will leave it running ;)

edit: btw only reason we are low on ipv4 is mismanagement from the get go.. And sure the ipv6 space is freaking HUGE!!! I mean HUGE!! So huge its hard to comprehend actually.. But just because it seems endless does not mean you need to give users their own /64 which is like what 18 quintillion addresses -- come on now why would every internet user need that many addresses?? they going to give every strand of their carpet in the house its own IP? Come on not everyone on the internet needs their own /64, but that is the standard.. So yeah if not careful might need to start looking at ipv8 ;)

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"ISP still IPv4 only here"

I fail to understand these statements.. Does not matter if your isp provides ipv6, there are multiple ways for you to access ipv6 now. Teredo is one way that built right in already, but really setting up a tunnel for your whole private lan to use is quite easy to do and has nothing to do with your ISP ipv6 level of support. Unless they are blocking protocol 41, which seems unlikely you can setup a tunnel in a few minutes and have full 10/10 for ipv6 day.

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epk

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"ISP still IPv4 only here"

I fail to understand these statements.. Does not matter if your isp provides ipv6, there are multiple ways for you to access ipv6 now. Teredo is one way that built right in already, but really setting up a tunnel for your whole private lan to use is quite easy to do and has nothing to do with your ISP ipv6 level of support. Unless they are blocking protocol 41, which seems unlikely you can setup a tunnel in a few minutes and have full 10/10 for ipv6 day.

And I'd go thru all that for what exactly?

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ipeters61

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"[Cox] is the third-largest cable television provider in the United States, serving more than 6.2 million customers, including [...] 3.5 million Internet subscribers..." (Wikipedia)

So they're presumably the third largest cable internet provider in the US. They aren't IPv6 ready.

Grand Master

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All of what 10 minutes of setup? But you have a valid point ;) Why would you put a sad face on your isp not supporting ipv6 if you don't care about it?

I agree there is no point to doing it other than playing and being able to say you have it working.. Other than that there is no reason, unless you want to access some really obscure porn sites or something that are only on ipv6 I agree with you completely.. But your the one that put a sad face on your isp not supporting it. And a few others are saying their isp doesn't support it either - which really has little to do with being able to get an ipv6 address.

No **** your isp prob is not doing anything with it - there is only a handful of isp's on the planet that are doing anything with it at all.. Kind of the point of IPv6 Day to get it some attention.

But sure if 10 minutes of following the bouncing ball instructions is too much for you to do, then don't - But you won't be in the ?ber Kewl Geeky crowd until you have your own routed /64 and your toaster and coffeemaker have their own ipv6 address ;)

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Roger H. Veteran

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Cox is supposedly apart of the IPv6 trials now (along with Verizon and Comcast for large USA ISPs).

Some routers come with 6to4 enabled out of the box from manufacturers such as the Linksys E4200 (V1.0 firmware, they removed it in 1.0.0.1) and the Netgear WNDR3700 and 4000. So I guess there is some progress even if it's only half baked as it's not even mentioned anywhere in the firmware or on the box.

Oh well, running DD-WRT on my E4200 with 6to4 just to see if I could get it working. I would have to be pretty stupid though as they have a WIKI to just copy and paste some info in. LOL

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SoLoR1

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All of what 10 minutes of setup? But you have a valid point ;) Why would you put a sad face on your isp not supporting ipv6 if you don't care about it?

Well thing is ISPs might really just not care about it... for example my ISP officaly there is no IPv6... its in "development", however there are few enthusiasts in that company that can include you in beta testing on some "unoffical" forum, but its true you wont get much help and if anything goes wrong its kinda up to you to debug the problem and tell them what to do, like they advertised wrong subnet to me, most of people would just complain that its not working... this doesnt really help them :) however one thing its true, all main services (mail, dns, web....) is already dual stacked for 2-3 months now.... i guess current issue they are having is limiting bandwidth... until about a month ago all ipv6 traffic was unlimited aka i had it limited with my router port witch is 100/100 (i have 50/50 connection of fiber), right now it still doesnt work properly ipv6 traffic is limited to 50/50 and ipv4 traffic is seperatly limited to 50/50 as well that means if for example i run some kind of torrent that would have some ipv6 peers i could run my connection on 100/100 (isp router port limit) and not on 50/50 that suppose to be my limit :)

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I am building a swingset, I have no time for ipv6....I think I am about 8 hrs into it out of a 10 hr project, I am guessing that it will be about another 8 before I am done....ipv6, my toaster, fridge, and inspector gadget watch don't support it. I won't be in the cool crowd until necessity bears its ugly head....by that time ipv8 will be around because my fridge will take up 5 ip's by itself (one for the ice maker, one for the water filter, one for the refridgerant, one for the motor, and one for the light), my toaster will take 3, my inspector gadget will take about 50, and wifey 2.0 will take up about 200 (one for each mood swing, the one day that she is normal and I can have more than a 5 min convo with her, one for hot flashes, one for cold, one for sex drive (although this apparently is optional), about 100 for the nag drive, and about 20 left over for other options that you don't know about).

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Lexcyn

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I managed to finally get my Hurricane Electric tunnel working today and get 10/10. before I used gogo6 but that was unreliable to say the least.

I use freenet6/gogo6 and it has been rock solid. I am using a gogoCPE network appliance connected to the Montreal server... but then again Montreal is only like 700km away from here.

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