Safari 5.1 for Windows and Mac OS X

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Safari 5.1 for Windows Released:

It brings many new features, you can read about them here:

http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html

For download:

Safari 5.1 for Windows

[cork1958]

Cripe!!

Just the web page for Safari is about as cluttered/bloated as the browser itself!! :blink:

36MB's for a browser?!! Not here it ain't!! :x

Still haven't figured out what anyone see's in this thing, unless you're on a Mac maybe?

[insanelyapple]

cork1958 sweetheart, no one pushes you to use Safari and if you cant accept 'weight' of Apples browser then go back in time to 1998.

[revvo]

cork1958 sweetheart, no one pushes you to use Safari and if you cant accept 'weight' of Apples browser then go back in time to 1998.

That's right, because we must accept the incompetence of developers who make huge ass software because we're not 1998.

[kiddingguy]

How's this compared to IE9 and/or FF with regard to speed, ease of use, security, features etc?

The page lists A LOT of new thingies, but still...

[Calum Veteran]

That's right, because we must accept the incompetence of developers who make huge ass software because we're not 1998.

If it's well-functional, it shouldn't matter that it's a little bit bigger than other browsers. Safari is well functional.

[kiddingguy]

Installed, but my scroll button of my Logitech mouse does not work as it should.

Sometimes it scrolls, sometimes it does not respond at all.

In other browsers this is perfectly fine... :(

[+Steve B Subscriber²]

Installed, but my scroll button of my Logitech mouse does not work as it should.

Sometimes it scrolls, sometimes it does not respond at all.

In other browsers this is perfectly fine... :(

Same here, scrolling with my MS mouse...even just re-installed latest drives, doesn't work right at all.

[primexx]

If it's well-functional, it shouldn't matter that it's a little bit bigger than other browsers. Safari is well functional.

"well functional" is the last thing I'd use to describe bloated anti-consumer foistware.

[Paul Ferson Veteran]

Thanks for the heads up Zlip! I don't use Safari regularly but I will update to 5.1 just to see if it is any improvement over 5.0.

[kiddingguy]

Same here, scrolling with my MS mouse...even just re-installed latest drives, doesn't work right at all.

Apple.... I think we got a problem :whistle:

[random_]

Apple.... I think we got a problem :whistle:

No problems here with MX Revolution, I am using Set Point drivers.

Anyway, I have never used Safari before, maybe tried it once some time ago when they made first Windows version. But from my experience, just like iTunes or Quicktime, it always bogged down the computer. This time around, things seem to work very smoothly, but I made sure I disabled Bonjour (not sure what it even does) and other things it tried to "recommend".

Having said that, I just installed this version to try it out and it works as expected so far. Unfortunately I noticed some buggy behavior when trying to visit online banking site (using certificate), Safari just crashes when I try to open it, I guess it's not compatible. Other than that, all the most popular sites that I regularly visit work fine, but I will try it out some more in the next days to see how it does with browsing to random sites all around the web.

[Rigby]

If it's well-functional, it shouldn't matter that it's a little bit bigger than other browsers. Safari is well functional.

It really isn't.

It is poorly coded and bloated junk. Does it still save screenshots of every single page you visit? What a ridiculous "feature".

[Fraud OS 11]

Thanks Zlip792. Always good to have an alternate browser just in case the primary one goes nuts. And it's NOT bloated. Firefox, Safari and Opera are now the only browsers left with a dedicated search box.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

@xpclient @Ferson

Thanks man!!!.

I personally find it very much responsive now and sites seems to load faster and handling of complex sites also improved. I like it, I currently have 4 browser installed. Firefox Nightly (improving but slow rendering and parsing), IE9 (nice browser but horrible in making site like no round corners), Google Chrome Dev 14.0.825.0 (Crashes as expected but horrible Cup and other profile icons, I better want Chrome own logo with mentioning numbers like gmail live icon and sometime horrible fonts) and Safari 5.1 (very much stable and responsive).

Some major features of Safari 5.1:

Reading List

Whenever you come across something interesting on the web, save it to Reading List. Then when you have more time to read articles, watch videos, or shop, your link-filled Reading List is ready and waiting. You can browse through the entire list or see just your unread pages. And Safari Reader lets you see it all in a clean, uncluttered space free from blinking, annoying ads.

Multi-Touch Gestures

Multi-Touch is built into Safari on OS X Lion, so you can tap, scroll, and swipe your way around the web. And it?s just as smooth, natural, and fun on the Mac as it is on an iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch.

Full-Screen Browsing

You?ll be even more immersed in the web when you see it full screen with OS X Lion. Web pages take up every inch of your display so there's nothing to distract you from what?s onscreen. You can open many web pages full screen ? dedicate one page for Twitter feeds, one for video, and another for browsing, for example ? and swipe back and forth between them. Or open just one web page full screen while other open pages stay the original Safari window size. And it's just as easy to switch from full-screen browsing back to your desktop.

New Privacy and Security Features

Browse, shop, read, and do everything you do on the web from the safest, most secure browser we?ve ever built.

Privacy Pane

Some websites you visit can leave data on your computer. The new Privacy pane in Safari preferences shows what kind of data websites are storing and lets you remove it. You can also customize cookie settings and choose whether websites can request your location information.

Sandboxing

Sandboxing is a security feature that helps prevent websites from tampering with your computer. All the web content and applications you use in Safari on Lion are sandboxed, so websites can?t use exploits to access your system. If a website contains malicious code intended to capture personal data or take control of your computer, sandboxing automatically blocks it to keep your computer and your information safe.

Private AutoFill

Safari makes sure your information is kept private. Whenever you come across a web form, Safari automatically detects it and lets you choose to use AutoFill to complete the form with information from your Address Book. No information is ever added to a form automatically unless you say it?s OK.

and much more...

[Saad_Salman]

Please rename this thread to ?Safari 5.1 for OSX and Windows? so we can talk about mac version as well.

Here is developer oriented feature list & description:

Media Caching

Safari can store audio and video data for web applications that use the HTML5 application cache, allowing for offline media playback and better media performance when an Internet connection is slow.

Full-Screen Web Page

With the new Full Screen JavaScript API, developers can create immersive web experiences without a plug-in.

CSS3 Auto-Hyphenation

Safari allows developers to provide better reading experiences and text layouts with support for CSS3 auto-hyphenation.

CSS3 Vertical Text

Developers can use top-to-bottom text layouts in web pages, allowing for greater customization of websites in languages that use vertical text, such as Chinese and Japanese.

CSS3 Text Emphasis

With the text emphasis property, web pages can display emphasis marks commonly used in East Asian text.

Improved Graphics on Windows

Safari 5.1 improves the performance of animations and CSS3 effects on Windows, using hardware acceleration to deliver smoother, faster rendering in the browser.

MathML

With support for Mathematical Markup Language (MathML), Safari allows developers to embed mathematical notation in a web page without using an image file.

WOFF Support

Support for the Web Open Font Format (WOFF) gives web designers and developers a wider range of typography options for websites.

Graphics Acceleration for HTML5 Canvas

With Safari on Lion, HTML5 Canvas elements on web pages take advantage of hardware acceleration, allowing faster performance for interactive graphics that are rendered natively in the browser.

Error Reporting

Window.onError support allows developers to spot JavaScript errors more easily. Developers can present users with a customizable message should they encounter an error on their websites, and window.onError can also report JavaScript errors back to the server, so that developers can use the error data to debug their code.

Formatted XML Files

When developers download unstyled XML files, Safari now presents the information in a clear document tree format, making it easier to read.

Extension Popovers

Safari now allows extensions to show HTML content in popovers that drop down from an extension toolbar button.

New Event Classes

With support for new event classes, Safari extensions can respond to user interactions with tabs, windows, web content, and the Smart Address Field. New event classes include Activate, Available, Before-navigate, Close, Deactivate, Menu, Navigate, Open, and Status-update.

Reader Extensions

Extensions can detect whether Safari Reader is available for a web page and activate Reader.

Audits Pane

New in the Web Inspector, the Audits pane gives you a built-in way to test the performance of your web application. You can run automated tests for network utilization and web page performance, which return a variety of suggestions for optimizing your website.

Reading List Integration

In Lion, you can add pages to your Reading List from Mail and other applications. If someone sends you a link you?d like to read later, secondary-click or Control-click the link and select Add to Reading List.

Sandboxing

All the web content and applications you use in Safari on Lion are sandboxed, so that they don?t have access to information on your system. If a website contains malicious code intended to capture personal data or tamper with your computer, sandboxing provides a built-in blocker that restricts that code from doing harm.

Full feature list from here: http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html

[Calum Veteran]

"well functional" is the last thing I'd use to describe bloated anti-consumer foistware.

Well, it isn't the last adjective any reasonable person would use to describe it. It does what a web browser should do and more, and it performs well; to me, that is well functional.

It really isn't.

It is poorly coded and bloated junk. Does it still save screenshots of every single page you visit? What a ridiculous "feature".

I find it functions well, although I do prefer Internet Explorer 9 and Chrome to Safari.

[MrFuji]

Any interface improvements on Windows?

I really like Safari on OS X (there's no browser that uses systemwide features so consistently), but on Windows... meh. Many interface bugs and crashes on certain websites. Only important for web developers I'd say.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Not really - the UI is pretty much the same as in 5.0:

[Elliott]

36MB's for a browser?!! Not here it ain't!! :x

lol?

[MrFuji]

-snip-

lol?

In his defence, the installers of Chrome and Firefox are indeed smaller (on Windows, that is). In addition, Chrome stores two versions of the browser in its application package - one's the recent version, the other one's old and is used as a fallback. Safari 5.1 has 49.6MB on SL here and that's without WebKit, which is part of the OS X system.

That being said, I don't mind if my browser's 10 or 1000 MB (or the installation file), as long as it starts quickly and works fine :D

edit: slightly off-topic, but I see you're on Lion already. Any quirks you've noticed? Safe to upgrade?

[Quactaur]

Could someone on Snow Leopard please test this 5.1 version for graphics acceleration? I've heard that it doesn't work unless you're on lion.

http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Performance/SpeedReading/default.html

If somoene could be so kind as to do a 5.x vs 5.1 comparison on their same snow leopard machine on that page, it'd be great. I'm just debating whether to reinstal OSX or not, my machine is way too slow online without GPU acceleration.

[Gorilambo]

I personally like Safari for Windows... Used it sometime ago, but I ended up swapping it for Chrome or Firefox.

I think Apple should make Safari and others of their Windows applications look as if they really belonged to the Windows environment. Having an application that tries to put OSX inside Windows is weird. Not even the colors look nice! heheheheh

[MrFuji]

I personally like Safari for Windows... Used it sometime ago, but I ended up swapping it for Chrome or Firefox.

I think Apple should make Safari and others of their Windows applications look as if they really belonged to the Windows environment. Having an application that tries to put OSX inside Windows is weird. Not even the colors look nice! heheheheh

Safari's look on Windows is about as native as Chrome on XP, I would say. So not too bad...

[Gorilambo]

Safari's look on Windows is about as native as Chrome on XP, I would say. So not too bad...

Maybe it's because Safari has not surrendered to the TABS-ON-TOP UI style in Windows.