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Thanks man. I feel like an idiot now because I also stumbled upon my Big Shot. Anyhow, here are two images taken by me, though I'm not the best photographer in the world. Click them for the full-size images, should you want those.

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civic type r :wub:

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The RS4

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some of those pics look awesome, the others the lighting looks like ass... the first one looks like the worst render ever. the car models looks amazing though, not impressed with the lighting in the game.

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some of those pics look awesome, the others the lighting looks like ass... the first one looks like the worst render ever. the car models looks amazing though, not impressed with the lighting in the game.

The first one being the Thunderbird, right? It was a shot that confused me, to be honest. I used to be able to get nice shots like that on Forza 3, but the colors looked washed out when I uploaded it. And since you're a fan of the Type R.... ;)

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^ i love that car. too bad they've stop making them. another thing that really made me angry/sad is north america never got them. I have a civic, but it's not bad cause i riced it out a bit (5zigen rims :wub: ) but when i was in europe i would look for them everywhere.

Looks like a scooby to me.

I thought the same. It looks a lot like the 2008 WRX STi, which is a nice car. I prefer the design of the Focus RS though.

^ i love that car. too bad they've stop making them. another thing that really made me angry/sad is north america never got them. I have a civic, but it's not bad cause i riced it out a bit (5zigen rims :wub: ) but when i was in europe i would look for them everywhere.

They stopped making the Type R?! Or the Mugen version? Because if you found a Mugen in Europe, I am seriously impressed. I don't think I've seen more than two of the new model Civic Type Rs, but there are dozens of EP3 Type Rs (and Type S models, too) around where I live. But they're actually quite horrible. I don't mind people putting decent rims on cars, and 5Zigen is my idea of decent. I'm not so sure of the Halfolds multifit range available in the UK though. :p

I thought the same. It looks a lot like the 2008 WRX STi, which is a nice car. I prefer the design of the Focus RS though.

They stopped making the Type R?! Or the Mugen version? Because if you found a Mugen in Europe, I am seriously impressed. I don't think I've seen more than two of the new model Civic Type Rs, but there are dozens of EP3 Type Rs (and Type S models, too) around where I live. But they're actually quite horrible. I don't mind people putting decent rims on cars, and 5Zigen is my idea of decent. I'm not so sure of the Halfolds multifit range available in the UK though. :p

the mugen they stopped (idiots) and that model of type R (that look) is done i'm pretty sure. and i did see a couple of mugens in europe, i think one was in france... and i definitely saw another one in spain too. You guys have type Rs and Ss. we have SIs.

edit: actually that's not fully true. you can get a civic type R here, but they call it a acura tsx...

the mugen they stopped (idiots) and that model of type R (that look) is done i'm pretty sure. and i did see a couple of mugens in europe, i think one was in france... and i definitely saw another one in spain too. You guys have type Rs and Ss. we have SIs.

That's pretty taunting, giving a small run of the nicest new Civic possible. I mean, it's great looking. If you didn't mind being a ricer I'm sure some enterprising company will have made a decent replica, if not necessarily for a decent price. I didn't even know you could find Mugens in Europe, but nice man! I'm jealous. From what I remember the older SI model (this one) was common enough in Ireland but I'm not sure whether they were imports or not. Ones that haven't been horribly modified are hard to find though, unfortunately.

That's pretty taunting, giving a small run of the nicest new Civic possible. I mean, it's great looking. If you didn't mind being a ricer I'm sure some enterprising company will have made a decent replica, if not necessarily for a decent price. I didn't even know you could find Mugens in Europe, but nice man! I'm jealous. From what I remember the older SI model (this one) was common enough in Ireland but I'm not sure whether they were imports or not. Ones that haven't been horribly modified are hard to find though, unfortunately.

our fast civics look like this. idon't know about over there, but our SI's were basically acura RSX's with a different exterior (i think you guys still call them integra's, i know they still call them integra's in japan)

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that's the 08, the new new ones (which needs to be lowered BADLY) look like this... i personally hate how the backs look

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looks like a weird mercedes kompressor rear...

^ i love that car. too bad they've stop making them. another thing that really made me angry/sad is north america never got them. I have a civic, but it's not bad cause i riced it out a bit (5zigen rims :wub: ) but when i was in europe i would look for them everywhere.

My friend was a pretty die hard Honda enthusiast and got one of those Type R's... he was rid of it in a year and had his Honda enthusiasm totally drained out of it! It performed well but was ridiculously uncomfortable, and the build quality was dreadful - pieces would literally just fall off it. Not sure if he just got a bad example or something but it's pretty much put him off ever having another Civic!

A question to all Forza fans out of curiousity, is it possible to import images in the livery editor? I thought it's only possible to have 10000 layers of geometrical shapes, though some liveries I saw on the net are just... well as if somebody imported high-res vector graphics :o

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If this is made with geometrical shapes only then... well I dunno, I will open my window and scream "WHAT?" :rofl:

A question to all Forza fans out of curiousity, is it possible to import images in the livery editor? I thought it's only possible to have 10000 layers of geometrical shapes, though some liveries I saw on the net are just... well as if somebody imported high-res vector graphics :o

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If this is made with geometrical shapes only then... well I dunno, I will open my window and scream "WHAT?" :rofl:

Not possible. They drew everything in the editor using shapes.

Not possible. They drew everything in the editor using shapes.

Wow, thanks for clearing that up, guess I have to go to my window now :pinch: No but seriously my respect to everyone who creates Forza cars, it must be unimaginable amount of hard work behind it! :D

How long does it take for pictures to show up in the my forza bit once you've uploaded one?

Pretty much instantly for me.

Although I can only see the 'My Forza' section if I change my country location to the US, doesn't show up for UK... anyone else found that?

Heres my 2. Not done much new expect re-applied my old Slimer vinyl and put my nickname "Egon" on it. This is the wee car I made for battles with my flatmate, we both made Golf Rabbits, solely for use on the TopGear test track.

The vinyl took about 3hrs to do and isnt totally finished but its enuff to look good.

Second car is my Ferrari 458 and its just a nice clean design based off of some tribal tattoos i started to draw. About 30mins of work but it,ll do for now so I look the part in R2 races :)

Sorry for the screengrabs via the phone but my Live accounts under investigation at present due to someone hacking my account for flippin Fifa teams ><

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Heres my 2. Not done much new expect re-applied my old Slimer vinyl and put my nickname "Egon" on it. This is the wee car I made for battles with my flatmate, we both made Golf Rabbits, solely for use on the TopGear test track.

The vinyl took about 3hrs to do and isnt totally finished but its enuff to look good.

Second car is my Ferrari 458 and its just a nice clean design based off of some tribal tattoos i started to draw. About 30mins of work but it,ll do for now so I look the part in R2 races :)

Sorry for the screengrabs via the phone but my Live accounts under investigation at present due to someone hacking my account for flippin Fifa teams ><

you got hit by that... that sucks.

also, i love that green monster.

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