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It's 2011 now, Winamp doesn't really kick anyone's ass now. People whine endlessly about WMP and iTunes being "bloated" but they work just fine and have everything for almost everyone. And for the 1% "I'm so special and can't use the same software as everyone else" crowd, nowadays foobar took Winamp's place. It's time for Winamp to join QuickTime in heaven.

It's 2011 now, Winamp doesn't really kick anyone's ass now. People whine endlessly about WMP and iTunes being "bloated" but they work just fine and have everything for almost everyone. And for the 1% "I'm so special and can't use the same software as everyone else" crowd, nowadays foobar took Winamp's place. It's time for Winamp to join QuickTime in heaven.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I try to use the least amount of stuff from MS. I have heard that Foobar is pretty good though and VLC.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I try to use the least amount of stuff from MS. I have heard that Foobar is pretty good though and VLC.

You are right - everyone is entitled to their opinion and I would respect yours if it were something like "I don't use Microsoft's media player because it doesn't suit my needs". Instead, you went the "I try to use the least amount of stuff from MS" route, which to me is the same as being racist.

My original point still stands: I see no reason why you would have a music library encoded in tons of different non-standard file formats just for the sake of it. It's anything but practical simply because most popular portable media players only support a select amount of formats. "Choice" is just a fad word nowadays people use way too frequently and randomly regardless of it actual making practical sense or not. It's also not like iTunes gives you only one encoding option.

That's you and that's pretty nice, but you surely don't listen to SPC music from snes, or use the Highly experimental codec for the one of PSX, or simply don't try APE, TTA, TAK lossless formats or perhaps don't have the "classic visualization" plugin, which shows a very nice bar equalizer pretty old schhol. Winamp along with it's great capability to be customizable at least on windows (classic pro plugin transforms winamp 5 almost in winamp 2.95 while maintaining its good features) and has quite a tradition. I'm missing some other features used by professionals, but still, winamp as remained as one of the top players for something and it's free, not to mention, it doesn't install bloatware like quicktime or other programs in order to work like iTunes. (And I have them both, just because I encode mainly from lossless to mp4, itunes is quite friendly for that)

Edit: My Winamp as I currently have it.

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The app that brought me into skinning back in the day and led me to Neowin is finally usable again. The leak that was reported on the front page a couple weeks ago wasn't. Still rough but it works and is just an early beta. Anxious to see where this goes.

Did no one notice how it says 'Winamp for Mac Sync Beta'?

The main purpose of the app is to sync music from Macs to Android phones. It being a media player is just a by-product (and not even a very good one). As to those of you expecting support for FLAC etc: Unlikely. I don't see it supporting any file formats beyond those supported by iTunes ever.

I don't know how it is on a Mac but I love it using Win7. Beats the heck out of WMP!

Obviously we're discussing the Mac variety here and how it stacks up against iTunes. Not Winamp for Windows vs Windows Media Player. This is the Mac section after all...

That's you and that's pretty nice, but you surely don't listen to SPC music from snes, or use the Highly experimental codec for the one of PSX, or simply don't try APE, TTA, TAK lossless formats or perhaps don't have the "classic visualization" plugin, which shows a very nice bar equalizer pretty old schhol. Winamp along with it's great capability to be customizable at least on windows (classic pro plugin transforms winamp 5 almost in winamp 2.95 while maintaining its good features) and has quite a tradition. I'm missing some other features used by professionals, but still, winamp as remained as one of the top players for something and it's free, not to mention, it doesn't install bloatware like quicktime or other programs in order to work like iTunes. (And I have them both, just because I encode mainly from lossless to mp4, itunes is quite friendly for that)

That's right, I don't listen to bleeps from a 90s gaming console. Nor do I need 20 different formats to play lossless music, one is more than sufficient. Personally I think those non-standard interfaces look dreadful compared to Aqua.

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Did no one notice how it says 'Winamp for Mac Sync Beta'?

The main purpose of the app is to sync music from Macs to Android phones. It being a media player is just a by-product (and not even a very good one). As to those of you expecting support for FLAC etc: Unlikely. I don't see it supporting any file formats beyond those supported by iTunes ever.

That's exactly why I'm wondering how anyone can say this is any good compared to other media players on Mac. It's basically a different front-end for the build-in QuickTime frameworks with an interface that looks like it has been designed in Paint.

DAMN! You know how long I have been waiting Winamp for Mac? finally it is here but this is so Barebones, I hope they add wireless iPod Touch Sync and like others said FLAC, plus Shoutcast TV and Radio and allow plugins damn so bare lol. Forgot also that it needs an Auto update for Winamp, since this is Beta I would like to make sure to get the next update.

That's exactly why I'm wondering how anyone can say this is any good compared to other media players on Mac. It's basically a different front-end for the build-in QuickTime frameworks with an interface that looks like it has been designed in Paint.

Neo, I did not post that.

http://www.neowin.ne...#entry594416227

Mephistopheles did. :)

Did no one notice how it says 'Winamp for Mac Sync Beta'?

The main purpose of the app is to sync music from Macs to Android phones. It being a media player is just a by-product (and not even a very good one). As to those of you expecting support for FLAC etc: Unlikely. I don't see it supporting any file formats beyond those supported by iTunes ever.

Probably you are right but anything is possible, never expected any form of Winamp Mac but now it happened.

Curious as to why you would want to? For me at least, the whole purpose of adding a folder is for it to be watched.

Because I like to control whats in my media player, without having to be restricted to avoiding "watched folders" when I place it. For years in the foobar2000 days I never even had a music library, just added my entire music collection to 1 playlist and then updated it / removed items as necessary without worrying about the actual files

My original point still stands: I see no reason why you would have a music library encoded in tons of different non-standard file formats just for the sake of it. It's anything but practical simply because most popular portable media players only support a select amount of formats. "Choice" is just a fad word nowadays people use way too frequently and randomly regardless of it actual making practical sense or not. It's also not like iTunes gives you only one encoding option.

I've got SNES, N64, Playstation, Gameboy, Gamecube, Amiga MODs and ITs audio rips, SNES rips are 64KB per SPC file, PSF files and N64 files are smaller than their equilivent MP3 sizes too, and GB files are tiny, why the hell should I have to encode them all in MP3 or FLAC and greatly increase their file-size and reduce the ability to extend loops, etc. which are built into the file formats, just because you seem to think MP3 and FLAC should be the only support file formats?

I've got SNES, N64, Playstation, Gameboy, Gamecube, Amiga MODs and ITs audio rips, SNES rips are 64KB per SPC file, PSF files and N64 files are smaller than their equilivent MP3 sizes too, and GB files are tiny, why the hell should I have to encode them all in MP3 or FLAC and greatly increase their file-size and reduce the ability to extend loops, etc. which are built into the file formats, just because you seem to think MP3 and FLAC should be the only support file formats?

In your case I see your need to use specialized software, however for the vast majority of people out there it simply isn't required. The music you're collecting is a niche at best so I totally understand it not being supported by OS X Lion's build-in frameworks and thus iTunes. Not sure why you feel addressed by what I said, I was purely referring to people who use the "lack of choice" argument as a way to slam mainstream software without actually needing the added functionality.

Well for things like itunes then yes, fully agree, but it's great VLC includes a lot of support, it's open source and if you only need basic file support you can grab the source, comment out some of the plugins and then compile it which would make it run faster and compile smaller.

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