Burn Note : self destructible mail

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Burn Note enables you to communicate online as privately as a phone call or a spoken conversation. It does this by completely deleting all Burn Notes after they have been read and by using encryption end-to-end for security.

Unlike other online services where your communication is stored and traceable, Burn Notes leave no trace online or on your computer. Our service securely deletes the contents of Burn Notes from our servers and from the phones and computers that send and receive them.

All communication on Burn Note can be viewed only once. Burn Notes are destroyed immediately after they have been viewed by the recipient and completely extinguished from the Burn Note servers. Burn Notes are never stored in the recipient's email and once deleted it is impossible for anyone to retrieve them.

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Rohdekill

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makes it kind of hard to have a conversation when you can't refer back to what was previously stated. I.E., read a post, reply back a day later and you can't recall the specifics.

Not to mention, there's no "real" way of knowing they actually delete anything from their servers.

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Glassed Silver

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Nothing a good camera pointed towards the screen cannot solve.

(among other solutions)

Then again, this is more about end TO end protection, less about end AND end protection! ;)

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The Teej

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Nothing a good camera pointed towards the screen cannot solve.

(among other solutions)

Then again, this is more about end TO end protection, less about end AND end protection! ;)

Glassed Silver:ios

End and End protection is easily sorted by those screens that fade to black if you're not viewing at them dead on.

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+BudMan MVC

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"Burn Notes are never stored in the recipient's email and once deleted it is impossible for anyone to retrieve them."

Sure the actual email might not be in the recipients email - but its impossible for them to remove the actual notice and link to read the email - even if the email no longer exists after reading.

As also stated a screencap or even camera can record the actual message - does not matter if they delete it or not.

I am also with intrinsica -- what is a possible real world application for this? I am not seeing it.

edit: Don't get me wrong, I agree and understand the need for secure communications - and even email that try to enforce your eyes only type access. But just not getting why you would have a need to burn that communication that it was even sent, etc.

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Glassed Silver

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End and End protection is easily sorted by those screens that fade to black if you're not viewing at them dead on.

I mean actual preserving the notes...

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Glassed Silver

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In which case, you need to make a bitlocker-encrypted backup of a backup so you can be secure while you're being secure

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Did nobody read my "digital camera" part?

What I was trying to say is: you can't be sure the note is deleted.

If you send super awesome and super secret stuff over, it's ridiculous to think that it will only be viewed and then destroyed.

(I lol'd anyway! :p Good one (Y))

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SirEvan

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Burn Note enables you to communicate online as privately as a phone call or a spoken conversation.

Stopped reading after that. spoken convos can' be eavesdropped on or picked up with listening devices, and phone calls can be tapped so easily, including VOIP

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"Burn Notes are never stored in the recipient's email and once deleted it is impossible for anyone to retrieve them."

Sure the actual email might not be in the recipients email - but its impossible for them to remove the actual notice and link to read the email - even if the email no longer exists after reading.

As also stated a screencap or even camera can record the actual message - does not matter if they delete it or not.

I am also with intrinsica -- what is a possible real world application for this? I am not seeing it.

edit: Don't get me wrong, I agree and understand the need for secure communications - and even email that try to enforce your eyes only type access. But just not getting why you would have a need to burn that communication that it was even sent, etc.

May be you want to send someone a credit card number or a password ..... without leaving any traces for the messages.

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+LogicalApex MVC

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Stopped reading after that. spoken convos can' be eavesdropped on or picked up with listening devices, and phone calls can be tapped so easily, including VOIP

Especially VoIP since it has no encryption by default and is passed on Ethernet networks instead of isolated phone lines...

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"without leaving any traces for the messages."

WHY would you not want a trace? And sorry they can not delete the trace of that fact that they were sent something.. They can not delete the notification message from your email. Nor could they delete the screenshot/picture I took of the message

The part I have hard time understanding what could you send someone that you would NOT want trace of -- other than ILLEGAL activities.. I would assume people sending say kiddie porn might not want this trackable back to them sort of thing. But other than that sickness what "legal" sort of something would you want to remove all traces that you sent something??

Why do you care if there is a copy of say the password or CC number - as long as its encrypted and only person sent to can decrypt it. You can not control what the person you sent it to does with it.. For all you know they are going to post it on their Facebook page or write it down on a sticky and have on the side of their monitor, etc. Burning the email does not in any ensure security of the item sent.

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+BudMan MVC

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So just sent a test message

Boy that keyhole really keeps me from making a record of it!

Video_2012-02-11_131749.wmv

here is test 2 using readout - the other option that is suppose to keep me from making a record of it.. Not able to copy, etc.

Look how well that works ;)

Video_2012-02-11_132310.wmv

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+BudMan MVC

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And so what if they keep an ENCRYPTED message til doomsday!

BTW -- so who would use this service to send passwords?

8.4 Burn Note reserves the right (but shall have no obligation) to pre-screen, review, flag, filter, modify, refuse or remove any or all Content from any Service. For some of the Services, Burn Note may provide tools to filter out explicit sexual content. In addition, there are commercially available services and software to limit access to material that you may find objectionable.

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Shane Ekanayake

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Nothing a good camera pointed towards the screen cannot solve.

(among other solutions)

Then again, this is more about end TO end protection, less about end AND end protection! ;)

Glassed Silver:ios

images can fabricate

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Glassed Silver

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images can fabricate

You mean, be faked?

That's true.

But would you really put all your hopes on this defense to fight off the rightful claim that you sent something bad or secret?

Well, yes, you would use it, but it doesn't exactly raise your trust that much, does it?

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