os x OS X Mountain Lion Discussion

[Depicus]

Mountain Lion runs a whole lot better as a Clean Install (I have not had a single Kernel Panic at all) than it does with an Upgrade from Lion (following the same clean install instructions as Lion). XCode Developer Preview 5 fixed the problem that I had with DP 4. Just FYI.

4.4 Preview 5 seems quite solid, actually using it to develop stuff which is nice :)

Also not had a Panic on ML at all and it's used for dev with Xcode and Netbeans and for video render with FCPX. Seems so solid i keep forgetting I am using it :)

[.Neo]

Seems so solid i keep forgetting I am using it :)

That's probably because it offers so little new features over OS X Lion. :whistle:

[Depicus]

That's probably because it offers so little new features of OS X Lion. :whistle:

True, welcome to the new product cycle ala Ubuntu. I don't mind it - and will be more fun than another OS update we know is coming :)

[AltecXP]

Not sure what would cause this, but with a clean install of 10.8 and clean install of 10.7.4 on my Air, the 10.7.4 is much more responsive and "snappier" than 10.8. It may just be a result of how the transitions are animated that gives an illusion of it being slower.

[PyX]

That's probably because it offers so little new features over OS X Lion. :whistle:

What were you expecting from an OS that has been developed in one year ?

Roughly, in computing, first the goal was to make things functional, then it was to become stable, after it was to become productive, then stability again, then we needed security, and finally we could make them pretty because technology finally let us do it.

Now, since the last few years, the goal it is to make it easy. To make it accessible to everyone, no matter what knowledge about tech they have. There isn?t much we can do anymore about the interface, functionality, stability, etc. on the premium OSes of today. We?ve reached a point where a revolution in software doesn?t exist anymore, except for software that hasn?t been rewritten since the last decade.

That being said, IMO, in 5 years, OS X will not have changed so much. My expectations for new releases have dropped down significantly. I only become frustrated when they introduce a new feature in a completely stupid manner.

[.Neo]

What were you expecting from an OS that has been developed in one year ?

The guy said he hardly noticed he's running OS X Mountain Lion, I'm merely stating that's probably because the OS offers so little new features over OS X Lion. Nobody said anything about expecting something.

[Miuku.]

I tried ML on my laptop and I have to admit, it's a lot damn snappier than 10.7.4 is so even if there are barely a few changes here and there, there's clearly some work done on actually optimizing the damn Lion.

[.Neo]

I tried ML on my laptop and I have to admit, it's a lot damn snappier than 10.7.4 is so even if there are barely a few changes here and there, there's clearly some work done on actually optimizing the damn Lion.

Oh definitely. Like I said before, I mainly notice that the fans in my iMac spin up a lot less compared to OS X Lion. Much like how it used to be when running OS X Snow Leopard, which is always a good thing. In the end it all depends on pricing and additional new features.

True, welcome to the new product cycle ala Ubuntu.

It's the product cycle Apple used to have in 2001-2003.

[PyX]

The guy said he hardly noticed he's running OS X Mountain Lion, I'm merely stating that's probably because the OS offers so little new features over OS X Lion. Nobody said anything about expecting something.

Oh, okay.

Well my point wasn?t useless though, I was adding that he needs to lower his expectations because OSes are rather complete nowadays.

[PyX]

It's the product cycle Apple used to have in 2001-2003.

Because Mac OS had just been rewritten and was lacking too many features and stability. There?s no reason to do it today.

[Depicus]

Oh, okay.

Well my point wasn?t useless though, I was adding that he needs to lower his expectations because OSes are rather complete nowadays.

My point was more that it was solid and nearly bug free so I didn't notice issues :)

[.Neo]

Because Mac OS had just been rewritten and was lacking too many features and stability. There?s no reason to do it today.

If it results in a mediocre amount of new features that are still being sold for ?24, then no.

[Lunfai]

It'll be cool if it was going to cost 9.99.

[Rudy]

It'll be cool if it was going to cost 9.99.

To be honest $29.99 is a pretty fair price

[Lunfai]

To be honest $29.99 is a pretty fair price

It is, I just said it'll be cool. :p I mean't in ?'s btw not $'s.

[Damian]

To be honest $29.99 is a pretty fair price

At this point it doesn't feel like a fair price. I hope they show us more at WWDC.

[SuperKid]

Is Mountain Lion likely to be released at WWDC? Just curious. Even then I think I will wait a week to see what bugs crop up with what applications (if any) and because I don't feel like waiting hours and hours for it to download when everyone decides to spam the servers aha! :)

[.Neo]

At this point it doesn't feel like a fair price. I hope they show us more at WWDC.

Mee eens.

(Agreed)

[Depicus]

At this point it doesn't feel like a fair price. I hope they show us more at WWDC.

I guess it's all relative, to me ?30 would be fine (I get it free anyway) just for the air sharing to an AppleTV. So much easier to watch stuff on the large TV :)

For me it's a tool of my trade so cheap compared to what I earn with it.

[Rudy]

At this point it doesn't feel like a fair price. I hope they show us more at WWDC.

Even if they were to release 3 versions for every time MS does a Windows release it would still cost less to buy these 3 updates

[PyX]

We can always hope for an additional major feature to be shown at WWDC, but I think all they will show us about Mountain Lion is about iCloud.

[Quillz]

Even if they were to release 3 versions for every time MS does a Windows release it would still cost less to buy these 3 updates

Depends on how you get Windows. I get legal copies of Windows for free as part of MSDNAA. Whereas Mac OS X isn't free, but it is heavily discounted for students.

[Tech Star]

I wouldn't be surprised if they announced iOS app compatibility with OSX at WWDC for ML. :D

[.Neo]

Depends on how you get Windows. I get legal copies of Windows for free as part of MSDNAA. Whereas Mac OS X isn't free, but it is heavily discounted for students.

I think we all know Rudy was referring to normal retail prices.

[Depicus]

Looks like $20 for all your personal macs - bargain.