os x OS X Mountain Lion Discussion

[Timan Veteran]

Everything has been rock solid so far. Only issue I can notice, and its not even a biggie, is it takes a long time to restart/shut down.

[.Neo]

The Address/Search Bar not taking focus in Safari 6 when opening a new window is really starting to get annoying.

[PyX]

Does anyone know how we will be able to access Apple's new 3D mapping system for iOS in OS X ?

Or do they want me to continue using depending on Google Maps ?

[Elliott]

Does anyone know how we will be able to access Apple's new 3D mapping system for iOS in OS X ?

Or do they want me to continue using depending on Google Maps ?

It'll probably be limited to iOS for now.

[PyX]

Arg. Could be nice if they put it on http://maps.icloud.com, and if logged in, it would sync all your custom pinpoints and locations to iCloud. And if you traced a route on your iPhone and go to iCloud.com, the route is also there. Find my Friends should also make its way on iCloud.com, but I think this one is coming !?

On another note, why have they removed most wallpapers in ML ? Even though some of them were old, they were all marvellous.

[.Neo]

On another note, why have they removed most wallpapers in ML ? Even though some of them were old, they were all marvellous.

OS X Mountain Lion comes with more desktop pictures than OS X Lion. 35 vs 20 respectively. I'm guessing the old ones got removed from OS X Lion because Apple didn't have high(er) resolution versions of them.

[Depicus]

When Mountain Lion is released, How do you go about by reinstalling to Mountion Lion when Lion is what comes with the Mac? If I use Internet recovery that downloads Lion right? so if i purchase mountain lion will internet recovery then download Mountain Lion? I have an SSD and all my other data is on my other drive anyway only some apps and os x itself is on the SSD so a fresh install wouldn't hurt and also got told its just like windows when a new version of windows came out i always avoided upgrading and only did fresh installs.

Just curious.. my first mac

Internet recovery will get updated when you update to ML so looks like you would need to upgrade then wipe but to be honest I am on my 5th upgrade going from Lion and never had a problem.

[PyX]

OS X Mountain Lion comes with more desktop pictures than OS X Lion. 35 vs 20 respectively. I'm guessing the old ones got removed from OS X Lion because Apple didn't have high(er) resolution versions of them.

Ah, you mean Retina Resolutions. That makes sense, but I'm sad to see them go. The ones in space that Apple made since Leopard, and the Mt. Fiji from Lion, and a lot of others that doesn't come to mind, were gorgeous. That won't prevent me from installing them though :p

Here's one of the things I hate about the Finder on a stock installation, apart from the fact that it doesn't have the Path Bar enabled by default. Look at this carefully :

Where is my "Mac OS X Lion" hard drive ? Not there, probably because it's now encrypted in FileVault. Last time I booted though, it asked me for a password by itself. Not now, and I don't understand why. I'm thinking if I click on "David's iMac" in my devices, I will be able to see it. But it's not there ! Not by default. It's very confusing if I'm new to Macs. I have to go in the settings and check it :

Even then, problem not fixed. I don't see it anymore.

[.Neo]

The Mt. Fuji desktop picture is in fact still present in OS X Mountain Lion DP4.

People new to Mac probably won't be dual booting an OS X Developer Preview, but okay.

[Gocom]

Speaking of devil, Path Bar is one of the worst breadcrumb trails I've seen in file browsers. Even a field without auto-completion would serve better. It has very little value when comes navigating; it's by default db-click based, truncates, and goes just steps up the same single path; doesn't even jump to sibling directory. If you need to copy a path somewhere, you can do it just by dragging any icon out of Finder, including the window title. I suppose the Path Bar looks neat, but that's about it.

Compared to Path Bar even the Path icon and its menu is better. Well, actually the Path menu is neat. It at least always uses single click (despite any pref), supports navigation features menus have and shows full path structure. Plus it takes less space and is out of the way when you do not need it.

Apple likely keeps Path Bar hidden by default since every other file browser has an editable location field. Having static, non-editable Path Bar visible is more confusing than having no path visible at all. Users transitioning for elsewhere would expect it to be editable and the arrow separators opening menus listing sibling directories.

[PyX]

People new to Mac probably won't be dual booting an OS X Developer Preview, but okay.

I don't see how it relates to my issue. I don't see my Lion partition and I don't know how I can see it, and all my files are there. If I had another partition with no OS X installed but all my files stored there, it would probably happen too.

[.Neo]

You said: "It's very confusing if I'm new to Macs."

If I had another partition with no OS X installed but all my files stored there, it would probably happen too.

Well not on my iMac at least. Anyway, have you looked around Disk Utility to see if the partitions are mounted?

[protocol7]

Where is my "Mac OS X Lion" hard drive ? Not there, probably because it's now encrypted in FileVault. Last time I booted though, it asked me for a password by itself. Not now, and I don't understand why. I'm thinking if I click on "David's iMac" in my devices, I will be able to see it. But it's not there ! Not by default. It's very confusing if I'm new to Macs. I have to go in the settings and check it :

Even then, problem not fixed. I don't see it anymore.

The checkbox beside hard disks shows it's only partially checked. Click it again until it's fully checked and that should make your OS X drive appear (does here).

[-KJ]

Ah, you mean Retina Resolutions. That makes sense, but I'm sad to see them go. The ones in space that Apple made since Leopard, and the Mt. Fiji from Lion, and a lot of others that doesn't come to mind, were gorgeous. That won't prevent me from installing them though :p

Here's one of the things I hate about the Finder on a stock installation, apart from the fact that it doesn't have the Path Bar enabled by default. Look at this carefully :

Where is my "Mac OS X Lion" hard drive ? Not there, probably because it's now encrypted in FileVault. Last time I booted though, it asked me for a password by itself. Not now, and I don't understand why. I'm thinking if I click on "David's iMac" in my devices, I will be able to see it. But it's not there ! Not by default. It's very confusing if I'm new to Macs. I have to go in the settings and check it :

Even then, problem not fixed. I don't see it anymore.

Just typical Apple trying to play mommy for you. Luckily, they still leave some customization options for those of us that are a little more knowledgeable.

[Melfster]

A flaw ? Are you mad ?

Tell me, which OS lets you disconnect the hard drive where it?s installed on !?

Oh the Internets full wacky people. On my hackintosh when I disconnect an external drive e-sata and it shuts down it sometimes hangs otherwise it works perfectly. I didn't realize the individual was disconnecting the drive that OS X was installed on.

[-KJ]

Speaking of devil, Path Bar is one of the worst breadcrumb trails I've seen in file browsers. Even a field without auto-completion would serve better. It has very little value when comes navigating; it's by default db-click based, truncates, and goes just steps up the same single path; doesn't even jump to sibling directory. If you need to copy a path somewhere, you can do it just by dragging any icon out of Finder, including the window title. I suppose the Path Bar looks neat, but that's about it.

Compared to Path Bar even the Path icon and its menu is better. Well, actually the Path menu is neat. It at least always uses single click (despite any pref), supports navigation features menus have and shows full path structure. Plus it takes less space and is out of the way when you do not need it.

Apple likely keeps Path Bar hidden by default since every other file browser has an editable location field. Having static, non-editable Path Bar visible is more confusing than having no path visible at all. Users transitioning for elsewhere would expect it to be editable and the arrow separators opening menus listing sibling directories.

Finder could definitely use some polishing. Windows Explorer > Finder as far as functionality is concerned, although I do like how Windows' Tree View mode is actually integrated as part of the list mode on Mac. It just makes more sense here rather than contained in a small column, especially for deeply nested folders.

[PyX]

Finder could definitely use some polishing. Windows Explorer > Finder as far as functionality is concerned

Yep, I have always agreed and always will agree with that, unless Apple does its homework.

It has improved little by little over the years, but nothing spectacular. Even when they rewrote it in Cocoa entirely, I have always felt like the job was half-way done, because there was more to do with the Finder than just rewriting the same thing in a different language.

[Quillz]

I wouldn't mind if Apple bought TotalFinder and implemented some of its functionality into Finder. I liked the idea of tabbed windows, being able to drag and drop files between them.

[Miuku.]

Yep, I have always agreed and always will agree with that, unless Apple does its homework.

You should take a look at the old Konqueror from KDE 3.x series on Linux. It makes Windows Explorer look like a child's toy.

Apple should just buy Path Finder ;-)

[.Neo]

I wouldn't mind if Apple bought TotalFinder and implemented some of its functionality into Finder. I liked the idea of tabbed windows, being able to drag and drop files between them.

I think Apple is more than capable of adding tabs themselves. :p

[PyX]

The checkbox beside hard disks shows it's only partially checked. Click it again until it's fully checked and that should make your OS X drive appear (does here).

I didn?t even realize !!! I?ll look into it next time I boot up in ML. Same for Disk Utility :)

[Aaron Olive]

New update today.

New build of Safari 6

New Build number

Notification center text changed.

[.Neo]

A 1,16 GB security update. Sure, why not?

[Quillz]

Is that Safari icon the new default, or did you customize it?

[.Neo]

Is that Safari icon the new default, or did you customize it?

It's a custom icon.