os x OS X Mountain Lion Discussion

[Timan Veteran]

Seems to still be stupid slow at shutting down and restarting for me.

Used to be near INSTANT on Lion, this is both on a Mac Pro 2008 (upgrade) and Macbook Air 2012 (new install).

Just nit picking, but its one thing that I know was faster before, so it'll be bugging me :p

Also animations seem alot smoother, also seems to be some sort of blur? when you scroll fast with gestures. Might be my eyes, am going blind.

[Vice]

There are quite a few known issues with the GM build:

:/

Anyway, are there any noticeable changes from the previous build?

Quite a lot of show-stopper bugs to be launching with. I mean some of those issues aren't just UI foibles those are crash bugs that will take the whole system down.

I'm worried that they are rushing to meet this July deadline when they are aware of so many show-stopper problems.

[.Neo]

Quite a lot of show-stopper bugs to be launching with. I mean some of those issues aren't just UI foibles those are crash bugs that will take the whole system down.

I'm worried that they are rushing to meet this July deadline when they are aware of so many show-stopper problems.

Yeah, not sure what to make of it. That said I really haven't had a single crash on OS X Mountain Lion DP4.

[Aaron Olive]

Those show stopper bugs were for 10.7.5 (11G22) read the release notes again, as for Mountain Lion there are no known issues at this time.

http://9to5mac.com/2...untain-lion-gm/

[Glassed Silver]

Dammit, 19 days?!

:cry:

Definitely not comparable.

Mountain Lion is the first OS X release to be FULLY digital-only.

No creating USB thumb drives etc...

It's all recovery partition, App Store and server-based grabbing of OS on wiped Macs now.

It definitely is smoother. One nice perk is that it now uses Core Animation for compositing and scrolling.

HALLELUJAH!

Seems to still be stupid slow at shutting down and restarting for me.

Used to be near INSTANT on Lion, this is both on a Mac Pro 2008 (upgrade) and Macbook Air 2012 (new install).

Just nit picking, but its one thing that I know was faster before, so it'll be bugging me :p

Also animations seem alot smoother, also seems to be some sort of blur? when you scroll fast with gestures. Might be my eyes, am going blind.

Absolutely a no-priority bug if you ask me.

This will get treatment in the last round of bug fixing.

I barely ever restart, mostly sleep, so no problem for me :p

Glassed Silver:mac

[SuperKid]

Does anyone know how the Internet Recovery feature is going to work, will it always install Lion or when you purchase ML, will you get Mountain Lion over Internet Recovery? Considering Internet Recovery doesn't ask for your Apple ID or anything, its kind of strange how it will work!

[DeadEndAccount]

Definitely not comparable.

Mountain Lion is the first OS X release to be FULLY digital-only.

No creating USB thumb drives etc...

It's all recovery partition, App Store and server-based grabbing of OS on wiped Macs now.

I've got the developer GM of Mountain Lion and I can still write it to a thumb drive without any problems. IMHO I still prefer doing clean installs - reduces the possibility of avenues where things can go hay wire.

So far for the last few hours both my iMac and MacBook Pro have been running beautifully - stable, reliable, the animations etc are silky smooth, Office 2011 installs and runs no worries along with Creative Suite CS6.

The big thing am excited about is iOS 6 and an iPhone refresh hopefully - I really need a 64GB model to store all my music that I have.

Does anyone know how the Internet Recovery feature is going to work, will it always install Lion or when you purchase ML, will you get Mountain Lion over Internet Recovery? Considering Internet Recovery doesn't ask for your Apple ID or anything, its kind of strange how it will work!

I think it associates your serial number to your purchase hence the reason why it checks your eligibility via the internet when recovery.

[SuperKid]

I think it associates your serial number to your purchase hence the reason why it checks your eligibility via the internet when recovery.

Oh, I see that's cool, would it work if I purchase ML from app store then and just reboot and use Recovery Mode for fresh installs? Don't need to get pen drive and put it on there then just use Internet Recovery to install? I'm guessing that would work?

[DeadEndAccount]

Oh, I see that's cool, would it work if I purchase ML from app store then and just reboot and use Recovery Mode for fresh installs? Don't need to get pen drive and put it on there then just use Internet Recovery to install? I'm guessing that would work?

I did have a strange situation when I did a recovery of my Mac mini which wouldn't allow me to do it until it was registered to my Apple ID - once that was done then I was able to restore it without any problems.

Regarding Internet Recovery IMHO just download it off the AppStore and write the dmg found inside the .app package to a thumb drive just to be sure - best to always have a backup plan in case things go pear shaped.

[KeR]

Mountain Lion GM is actually amazingly fast. Everything is a lot snappier than in Lion, they did a good job optimizing the OS...color me impressed.

[Rudy]

Mountain Lion GM is actually amazingly fast. Everything is a lot snappier than in Lion, they did a good job optimizing the OS...color me impressed.

+1 (Y)

[DeadEndAccount]

It definitely is smoother. One nice perk is that it now uses Core Animation for compositing and scrolling.

From what I also understand Core Animation is now based upon OpenGL 3.x rather than the old OpenGL 2.x

[SuperKid]

I did have a strange situation when I did a recovery of my Mac mini which wouldn't allow me to do it until it was registered to my Apple ID - once that was done then I was able to restore it without any problems.

Regarding Internet Recovery IMHO just download it off the AppStore and write the dmg found inside the .app package to a thumb drive just to be sure - best to always have a backup plan in case things go pear shaped.

Alrighty, gonna buy a pen drive anyway just to be sure :)

[.Neo]

Definitely not comparable.

Mountain Lion is the first OS X release to be FULLY digital-only.

No creating USB thumb drives etc...

It's all recovery partition, App Store and server-based grabbing of OS on wiped Macs now.

It's perfectly comparable. The OS X Lion USB Thumb Drive has nothing do with anything since it wasn't introduced at the same time as the App Store download but rather a month later.

[Glassed Silver]

I've got the developer GM of Mountain Lion and I can still write it to a thumb drive without any problems.

[...]

I meant that Apple will not provide thumb drives you can buy, apart from the odd case that you can always walk into an Apple Store and request a copy of the OS on a thumb drive you bring I guess.

It's perfectly comparable. The OS X Lion USB Thumb Drive is irrelevant since it wasn't introduced at the same time as the App Store download but rather a month later.

Whoopsies, you're right! :p

Glassed Silver:mac

[Aaron Olive]

Well i got a bug that they still haven't fixed since DP4 in Safari 6. There is a one pixel high line that appears at the bottom of the window when you pinch or press the button for the new to show all tabs view.

[Rudy]

Well i got a bug that they still haven't fixed since DP4 in Safari 6. There is a one pixel high line that appears at the bottom of the window when you pinch or press the button for the new to show all tabs view.

Did you report the bug? Otherwise that's a pretty hard to reproduce bug, they might not know about it

[Aaron Olive]

Did you report the bug? Otherwise that's a pretty hard to reproduce bug, they might not know about it

It isn't hard to reproduce at all, just pinch out with more than two tabs and you will see it on any page that isn't pure white.

[protocol7]

They haven't fixed the position of the options in the Energy Saver prefs. They need to be moved down a bit.

Also if you're installing on a system that doesn't have the recovery partition, the dropdown box saying that features such as FileVault and Recovery will be unavailable still references "OS X Lion" twice.

Both cosmetic. Otherwise it seems fine so far.

[KeR]

Well i got a bug that they still haven't fixed since DP4 in Safari 6. There is a one pixel high line that appears at the bottom of the window when you pinch or press the button for the new to show all tabs view.

I don't have that issue.

[Aaron Olive]

I don't have that issue.

Try it in fullscreen mode.

[PyX]

Yep, once installed as an upgrade and once you have run the Mac for about 2 hours, then the OS becomes suddenly very faster. It?s faster than Lion. So far, so good.

Finally, Reminders is useful. I didn?t know what purpose it had on the iPhone when it would not sync with Macs prior to ML.

[.Neo]

Try it in fullscreen mode.

I don't have the issue in windowed mode, full-screen or in windowed mode coming back from full-screen. Enabling/disabling/enabling the Status Bar doesn't change anything either. I used the same website as in your screen shot.

[DeadEndAccount]

It isn't hard to reproduce at all, just pinch out with more than two tabs and you will see it on any page that isn't pure white.

Did you do a completely clean install (formatted the hard disk, then install it off a pen drive)?

[.Neo]

Did you do a completely clean install (formatted the hard disk, then install it off a pen drive)?

I just did an upgrade from OS X Lion until it's available in the App Store and don't experience the issue.