crazzy88ss Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I wanted to add a little 3-6 inch cable to extend my audio jack on the back of my iMac so I don't have to turn the computer around when ever I plug head phones in. But then I started to think... if there's a little cable plugged in (but no headphones plugged into the extender), will the hardware recognize this and still play audio through the built-in speakers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted April 17, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted April 17, 2012 I theory it shouldn't, as most connectors trigger the "something is connected" by shorting. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594806253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I haven't verified this, but if there's an extender plugged in, the iMac will probably assume that headphones are plugged in and not play sound through the built-in speakers. Nik has a good point though. I'm not exactly sure how an extender does its job, and it might even vary from extender to extender. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594806257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted April 17, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted April 17, 2012 An extender should just extend, nothing more! The connectors are not connected to each other as they would be if a headphone were plugged in (completing the circuit). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594806283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I wanted to add a little 3-6 inch cable to extend my audio jack on the back of my iMac so I don't have to turn the computer around when ever I plug head phones in. But then I started to think... if there's a little cable plugged in (but no headphones plugged into the extender), will the hardware recognize this and still play audio through the built-in speakers? Not the cheapest solution: You can if you use a USB DAC headphone amplifier. This way you can even leave the headphones plugged in the DAC at all time. You only need to choose your output device from the volume icon in the menu bar. [option + click] on the volume icon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594806379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodel Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 If it's any help, I have a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable which I use to connect my macbook pro to my amp. When I unplug the end connected to the amp the sound dies until I unplug it from the mac at which point the sound starts to come from the mac. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594806513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 Not the cheapest solution: You can if you use a USB DAC headphone amplifier. This way you can even leave the headphones plugged in the DAC at all time. You only need to choose your output device from the volume icon in the menu bar. [option + click] on the volume icon. That's a good point, but 1.) I need a few extra inches on my headphones and 2.) I take them with me, so I wanted to solve the accessibility issue of having to constantly unplug/plugin the headphones. An extender should just extend, nothing more! The connectors are not connected to each other as they would be if a headphone were plugged in (completing the circuit). Ah, also a good point. --- I'll report back here if I do buy something. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594810593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 It completely depends on how they detect it. My laptop (Sony Vaio Z) detects extension cables without anything actually connected just like it detects headphones. Which means it just detects if there is something plugged in the port, not if a circuit is completed. I suspect most computers work that way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594810603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 I just tested this out on my MBP current gen with a radioshack extension and it mutes the main speakers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594810883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 I just tested this out on my MBP current gen with a radioshack extension and it mutes the main speakers. Good to know, thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594811203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Not the cheapest solution: You can if you use a USB DAC headphone amplifier. This way you can even leave the headphones plugged in the DAC at all time. You only need to choose your output device from the volume icon in the menu bar. [option + click] on the volume icon. So the image you've attached... I can't actually find where that setting is. I'm on 10.7.3 at work (and 10.6.something at home). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594823675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So the image you've attached... I can't actually find where that setting is. I'm on 10.7.3 at work (and 10.6.something at home). You're option-clicking on the volume icon the menu bar? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594824989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So wait... on a Mac you can't just select where you want the sound to come from? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594825177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So the image you've attached... I can't actually find where that setting is. I'm on 10.7.3 at work (and 10.6.something at home). You can find it in the menubar like Elliott said. That's a good point, but 1.) I need a few extra inches on my headphones and 2.) I take them with me, so I wanted to solve the accessibility issue of having to constantly unplug/plugin the headphones. You can place the DAC on your desk which solves both 1.) And 2.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594825417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_K Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 The way all audio detection cables work these days is they have 5 connections on the bottom, one for L, one for R and one for Ground. Ground is always connected, but L and R are on flexible pieces of metal, when you push a headphone jack in, it stops them from touching the other 2 points on the connector (which go to the internal sound) and the sound instead flows out onto the headphone jack cable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594825421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'm almost certain that audio will be cut from the built-in speakers whenever ANYTHING is plugged into the audio out jack. Remember, that headphone jack is more than a headphone jack, it's also an optical connector. Optical cables don't carry a current and would never complete an electrical circuit. So, I'm pretty sure that the built-in speakers are cut out whenever anything is plugged in there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594825441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Find an old pair of headphones. Chop cable. Plug in. Report. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594825481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 You're option-clicking on the volume icon the menu bar? Whoops; I was not. Thank you! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594826615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Find an old pair of headphones. Chop cable. Plug in. Report. Don't have any. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594826621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 You're option-clicking on the volume icon the menu bar? So when I have my headphones plugged in, this is what I see: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594826833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So when I have my headphones plugged in, this is what I see: Yep, that's right. Headphones take the place of internal audio. If you had something like a USB headset or DAC, you'd see that as another choice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594826891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Ah. Right.... bummer. :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594827361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 So wait... on a Mac you can't just select where you want the sound to come from? Those screenshots show that you can. Or do you mean when you aren't using another sound card? My laptop (HP EliteBook 2740p) technically can switch output but the drivers are configured in a way that if the speakers are default and headphones are plugged in, sound comes out of the headphones. Macs probably work like this, too. I can have two separate audio streams if I play one to speakers and one to headphones, but if I choose to only play to one device, it will come out of the headphones no matter what I choose. Modified drivers may change the behavior. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1070947-audio-jack-extender-on-imac/#findComment-594827371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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