Alladaskill17 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 NVIDIA: Mobile Graphics Will Beat Consoles in 2014 Big words from one of the leading mobile chip providers, but NVIDIA estimates that the graphical power of smartphones and tablets will meet and surpass consoles in the next two years.The Tegra manufacturer provided AnandTech with a slide comparing the graphical trends and performance of the different gaming platforms since the turn of the century, ultimately pointing out that a mobile system on a chip (SoC) would be at the same level of home consoles in 2013, and surpassing them the year after. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooko22 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 NVIDIA: Mobile Graphics Will Beat Consoles in 2014 Source Wow so phones are going to be console sized in 2014. Damn I though samsung note was big! ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594812845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhearted Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 As if it's really hard to exceed the power of what will be 9 year old hardware by then.. Jose_49 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594812865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooko22 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 As if it's really hard to exceed the power of what will be 9 year old hardware by then.. Doesn't he mean the consoles of the future then? Although I aint no expert I just find it hard to see how it could surpass them. Almost like saying laptops will surpass desktops. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594812879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingbird Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Doesn't he mean the consoles of the future then? Although I aint no expert I just find it hard to see how it could surpass them. Almost like saying laptops will surpass desktops. Nope. Flat line shows the current console. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594812893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamatea Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So Computer disapeared in 2010 ? Crisp 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594812917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Ekanayake Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 they better discover a way to power those energy hungry chips Jose_49 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594813011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Better bring some more battery life instead of Angry Turds HD, mkay? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594813029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooko22 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Nope. Flat line shows the current console. Ah ok. Then I must agree with blackhearted. Although it's quite fascinating thinking about having the same graphic performance in such a small device. That probably wont be as fascinating as it happens though. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594813235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Hold on, I'm building my portal fission reactor to power the next cell phone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594813243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooko22 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Oh and won't we have new consoles by then. Would think so. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594813245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 and in 2014 we would have new consoles which are at least X4 times more powerful tough luck junkies! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594816753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose_49 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I don't care if it has better graphics or not. It's as the previous neowin editorial. You get a visually appealing game, and since it has very clumsy controls, it isn't enjoyable at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594816765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salutary7 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Some arbitrary synthetic performance metric doesn't mean a whole lot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594816771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladaskill17 Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 So Computer disapeared in 2010 ? Well considering this discussion is only for console vs mobile... and that PC is clearly the most powerful and up to date platform...gg troll. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594816777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I don't care if it has better graphics or not. It's as the previous neowin editorial. You get a visually appealing game, and since it has very clumsy controls, it isn't enjoyable at all. Bingo. Inputs on touch screens aren't conducive to good gameplay. It's fine for simple games, anything else is, as you said, clumsy. If you need an example just look at the Max Payne port for iOS. Virtual, on screen controls are terrible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594816999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satukoro Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 This graph makes the assumption that new consoles won't be released with improved graphics processing prior to 2014. Point made though, mobile devices are becoming qutie powerful as far as graphics go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594817037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 This graph makes the assumption that new consoles won't be released with improved graphics processing prior to 2014. Point made though, mobile devices are becoming qutie powerful as far as graphics go. Actually, they have an averaged charting of where PC's and Consoles would be with the dotted lines. And if you look, the consoles are still ahead with that curve assuming another console with a similar technology leap is released. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted April 23, 2012 Subscriber² Share Posted April 23, 2012 Only so much you can do with better graphics if the input system can't improve. Maybe I'm one in a thousand, but I'm more interested in PS Vita like platforms reaching console graphics, yet maintaining decent battery life. As the Vita seems to produce some decent graphics, what I'd like to see next is battery tech getting better, not so much mobile phones catching up to dedicated handhelds/'consoles' in the graphics department. Smartphone batteries are bad enough at times as it is, I don't want to be playing cutting edge graphical experiences on my phone on the train in the morning for the battery to die by lunch. Simple mobile games do it for me (especially puzzle), for anything else, I'd as I mentioned at the start of this post always prefer dedicated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LogicalApex MVC Posted April 23, 2012 MVC Share Posted April 23, 2012 Nothing magical here at all. The console will improve in its next iteration and PCs have been improving constantly so the mobile platform will lag behind the current technology level of its day. It will improve iteratively though and have increasingly better performance over time. The growth in console graphics performance isn't all that amazing really. The only thing this graph really proves is that there was no real demand for mobile gaming quality graphics until recently. It will be interesting to see what the sustained growth in graphics power for mobile platforms are over a longer period, such as the scale used to compare it here to consoles and PCs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 you guys are missing the point... they are going to have hardware faster then a ps3 in a tiny tiny little box. that's pretty crazy.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 you guys are missing the point... they are going to have hardware faster then a ps3 in a tiny tiny little box. that's pretty crazy.... The issue I have is: why? I don't get what a mobile platform could possibly use that power for besides improving the visuals of the games which really isn't their primary function anyways. I know people pretty much pay for the latest and greatest anyways but they could simply optimize the current platform rather than upgrade the hardware (such as improving battery life). I'd rather have a phone that needs a charge once a week than one that can run Mass Effect 3 but dies at the end of the day. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The issue I have is: why? I don't get what a mobile platform could possibly use that power for besides improving the visuals of the games which really isn't their primary function anyways. I know people pretty much pay for the latest and greatest anyways but they could simply optimize the current platform rather than upgrade the hardware (such as improving battery life). I'd rather have a phone that needs a charge once a week than one that can run Mass Effect 3 but dies at the end of the day. oh i agree with you and everyone else about the battery issue. but to me, mobile cpus/gpus/apus/*whatever*us have come a long way pretty quickly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Tosie Veteran Posted April 23, 2012 Veteran Share Posted April 23, 2012 The issue I have is: why? I don't get what a mobile platform could possibly use that power for besides improving the visuals of the games which really isn't their primary function anyways. I know people pretty much pay for the latest and greatest anyways but they could simply optimize the current platform rather than upgrade the hardware (such as improving battery life). I'd rather have a phone that needs a charge once a week than one that can run Mass Effect 3 but dies at the end of the day. Mobile gaming isn't the primary function of tablets, but PC gaming isn't the primary function of PCs either. Battery life has been steadily improving along with graphical power, so it's not like they're ignoring that issue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 oh i agree with you and everyone else about the battery issue. but to me, mobile cpus/gpus/apus/*whatever*us have come a long way pretty quickly. I agree. I just hate that they've jumped into the gaming hardware bandwagon rather than pushing a more obvious form of optimization. My old phones would last days before needing a charge. New phones last around 10-16 hours. That's a huge step backward in terms of their actual purpose. There is so much technology available these days, phones with similar power to what they had 4 years ago could be streamlined to generate less heat and use less power. Mobile gaming isn't the primary function of tablets, but PC gaming isn't the primary function of PCs either. Battery life has been steadily improving along with graphical power, so it's not like they're ignoring that issue. PC's can be built with that as a primary function. Phones and other mobile platforms cannot (at least not yet). A computer does what you make it to do. A phone/tablet is what it is and the fact that the manufacturers are blurring their purpose means that they are going to become riddled with features and stuff they don't need, driving up their price and preventing the consumer from seeing productive improvements and price drops as quickly as we should. I'm not saying that they haven't improved anything, they certainly have. But today's smart phones could be a lot simpler and have a much, much longer battery life than they currently do if the focus was to minimize power consumption in the hardware/software rather than to beef up the power. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1071717-mobile-graphics-360ps3-in-2014/#findComment-594819121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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