Windows 8 Thoughts and Discussion

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johnporter29

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Can you post a link to an official statement from MS that says explicitly that Glass will not be available at all in Windows 8? All I've read is that Glass won't be the default theme which is quite different from what you're saying. Until the RC is released I don't think we know whether Glass will be available but I suspect it will be there for users to select, just not switched on by default.

I also think you're confused about Windows on ARM and MS's tablet strategy. There will be plenty of x86-based tablets available and all tablets will be able to run the same Metro apps regardless of whether they are ARM or x86-based.

I don't think you will see the final UI until RTM to be honest, I believe the RC will still have Aero Glass enabled as default.

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KevinN206

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Windows 8 with the desktop has a new option calls "auto colorization" where Windows try to change the Aero glass color to match the background. It looks really cool with this feature enabled. Why would MS add this feature if they are removing Aero glass?

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Windows 8 with the desktop has a new option calls "auto colorization" where Windows try to change the Aero glass color to match the background. It looks really cool with this feature enabled. Why would MS add this feature if they are removing Aero glass?

Either it's a change of plans, or it'll also colorize the window border even without the glass effect. I too, hope they will keep this because the white I know will be too much for me.

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Zain Adeel

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the only thing im worried about is not many apps ..

Look its the Release Preview.. just around the corner.. and we have only like a 100 apps?

I Think all of the big developers have enough money and resources to atleast get a beta app out for the release preview.. so atleast ppl can try them.

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Brandon H Supervisor

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the only thing im worried about is not many apps ..

Look its the Release Preview.. just around the corner.. and we have only like a 100 apps?

I Think all of the big developers have enough money and resources to atleast get a beta app out for the release preview.. so atleast ppl can try them.

that's because the microsoft store hasn't truly been released yet. it's fully launching the same time the RC is. so many more people will be able to add their apps to it soon
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Dot Matrix

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the only thing im worried about is not many apps ..

Look its the Release Preview.. just around the corner.. and we have only like a 100 apps?

I Think all of the big developers have enough money and resources to atleast get a beta app out for the release preview.. so atleast ppl can try them.

that's because the microsoft store hasn't truly been released yet. it's fully launching the same time the RC is

Yeah, the market is intentionally being kept minimal, with only a select few apps appearing.

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If it uses only WinRT (the API, not short for Windows RT) code, then yes it can be compiled for (languages such as C++) or run on (languages such as C#) both x86 and ARM. However, Metro IE indeed relies on running the Win32-based rendering engine in the background. If you don't believe me, open Metro IE, check Task Manager, and notice you're now running iexplore.exe, a Win32 process.

It's not really that it's running a separate Win32-based engine "in the background" - it's that Metro style IE is actually the same app as desktop IE. It's a desktop app, not a Metro style app. Metro style Firefox will work the same way, it will simply be the same as desktop Firefox, just running with a different UI.

The restriction on Windows RT is that you can't install desktop apps on it, therefore you can't install these browsers since they are desktop apps. IE gets around this simply by being preinstalled.

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the only thing im worried about is not many apps ..

Look its the Release Preview.. just around the corner.. and we have only like a 100 apps?

I Think all of the big developers have enough money and resources to atleast get a beta app out for the release preview.. so atleast ppl can try them.

And some already have (Amazon, for example, has a WinRT version of the Kindle e-reading app in the Store). However, until there are more WinRT-supporting PCs (in particular those running WindowsRT), what's the rush to develop such apps? Win32 applications run on Windows 8 just fine - write a Win32 application, and you have every flavor of mainstream Windows covered. The favorite argument I have for the waiting game is development surrounding Win32 itself - it didn't really take off until Windows 95 was six months old - and that was *despite* Windows NT.

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Chris123NT

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the only thing im worried about is not many apps ..

Look its the Release Preview.. just around the corner.. and we have only like a 100 apps?

I Think all of the big developers have enough money and resources to atleast get a beta app out for the release preview.. so atleast ppl can try them.

The lack of apps is because of most large developers waiting until they know for a fact that Microsoft won't be making any significant changes anymore. That and most are waiting for better tools as the version of VS that dropped with the consumer preview leaved a lot to be desired. And changes are still being made, even with the RP build already being done.

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