This guy makes some good points about Linux

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Duffydemon

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Sounds like a rant to me. I don't agree with anything he said. Maybe he should stick to Windows or OS X.

He is a linux user, If you checked his channel and his videos, I agree with him, experienced user can find flaws in any OS, be it linux, OSX or windows.

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n_K

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I used the captions... Wow they're pretty funny!

Only listened to the first bit about sound architecture and he's just copying a rant that's been done before, many years ago.

But yes it's true, there's: alsa, oss, esd, pulseaudio, jack, gstreamer... Why the **** didn't they just all work on ONE sound system in the first place and then sound support on linux would be awesome.

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Coi

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he really should wash his hair, go out more and learn to deliver a well thought rational argument without straying from his point and pausing constantly.

You don't agree with someone, let's just bash his appearance. Now that is completely on-topic. :rolleyes:

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shine_victim

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This guy is completely right in what he is saying regarding the Linux community.

Many moons ago when attempting to take my first dive into Linux I asked around the intertubes for some advice on where to start regarding OS distro etc. The answers given were exactly as outlined in the video/rant. "Use whatever one suits your needs", "Stop asking other people and do your own work". All I was looking was a bit of guidance yet all I received was pointless replies telling me how stupid I was regarding Linux/Unix etc.

The guy is right regarding the community and if you think he is wrong then I am afraid you are more than likely one of the douches that act the way this chap is outlining.

Linux is great for what it is, a free alternative to Microsoft/Apple OS's BUT it is still a hell of a long way off being anywhere near where these two giants are.

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simplezz

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This guy is completely right in what he is saying regarding the Linux community.

No he isn't. If you ask stupid questions anywhere on the web you'll likely get flamed or belittled at some point in time. However, that's not representative of the community. If you have exhausted other avenues (namely Google), and have a legitimate question, then you'll receive a fair response. I liken it to someone who comments on an article or post without reading it fully first and jumping to conclusions. Everyone needs to do their due diligence beforehand.

But I guess for some people it's just easier to stereotype things and lump everyone into the same category.

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Farstrider

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he really should wash his hair, go out more and learn to deliver a well thought rational argument without straying from his point and pausing constantly.

^Basically what I was going to post a few hours ago but my service provider was down ...

All I see is a basement dweller, with greasy hair who can barely speak English, making huge generalizations. Sorry but I find people like this extremely annoying.

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migo

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No he isn't. If you ask stupid questions anywhere on the web you'll likely get flamed or belittled at some point in time. However, that's not representative of the community. If you have exhausted other avenues (namely Google), and have a legitimate question, then you'll receive a fair response. I liken it to someone who comments on an article or post without reading it fully first and jumping to conclusions. Everyone needs to do their due diligence beforehand.

But I guess for some people it's just easier to stereotype things and lump everyone into the same category.

No, some people only hang around in forums/irc channels so they can post links to lmgtfy

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migo

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Hey!

Me too!! :)

Don't need to listen to some one making any points about any OS. They ALL have their good and bad points.

That's true, although Linux users should think about the bad points of their OS, because on the desktop Linux has seen minimal adoption, while OSX has managed to become a definite 2nd place to Windows (like Bing is to Google).

I'm not sure about the points he made, but I feel if the Linux community worked together to create one distribution, instead of tons of forks, Linux would be a lot better. Imagine what would have happened to Firefox or OpenOffice if everyone put their effort into making FF and OO forks instead of just working on improving the core program. Sure, there are programs like K-Meleon and NeoOffice, but for the most part everyone focused on one thing.

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dead.cell

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^Basically what I was going to post a few hours ago but my service provider was down ...

All I see is a basement dweller, with greasy hair who can barely speak English, making huge generalizations. Sorry but I find people like this extremely annoying.

Can't be any more annoying than someone who bashes someone on their appearance or the way they talk simply because they don't agree with them. :rolleyes:

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redvamp128

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Wow..First and foremost I use Linux

This guy is Not ORIGINAL AT ALL

he must have just crawled out ... The same things have been said I know of since 2005 -- But The above is a video from 2009

He should watch these videos first-

http://www.youtube.c...dcasting/videos

Instead of complaining-- he needs to help make the corrections...

BTW -- I use linux about 40% of the time and it does everything I need it to without issues he described... SUCH AS THE SOUND (I had more crashes from sound on Windows than Linux.)

The only thing it does not do is play the latest games....For me it is lighter on the resources and boots faster than Windows.

Not to mention is an excellent choice for a dual boot for my old XP laptop (which Windows Vista/7/8 does not support the video driver) in order to keep it more secure.

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n_K

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Wow..First and foremost I use Linux

This guy is Not ORIGINAL AT ALL

he must have just crawled out ... The same things have been said I know of since 2005 -- But The above is a video from 2009

He should watch these videos first-

http://www.youtube.c...dcasting/videos

Instead of complaining-- he needs to help make the corrections...

BTW -- I use linux about 40% of the time and it does everything I need it to without issues he described... SUCH AS THE SOUND (I had more crashes from sound on Windows than Linux.)

The only thing it does not do is play the latest games....For me it is lighter on the resources and boots faster than Windows.

Not to mention is an excellent choice for a dual boot for my old XP laptop (which Windows Vista/7/8 does not support the video driver) in order to keep it more secure.

That's the video I was talking about!

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SharpGreen

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I didn't watch the whole thing, but of the bits I did watch some were incorrect.

Firstly, practically all Linux distros share at least 3 components: The kernel, X server and GCC. That is a standard among all distros. The only difference is the versions. Which you have the same issues with versioning of components on other OSes too, so not a linux specific thing.

Secondly, a .tar.gz file is not a package file of any kind that I know of. It's nothing more than an archive file, like a zip file.

And last, why does it matter if there multiple package formats? There are really only 2 major ones anyway, deb and RPM and most (if not all Linux software) is distributed in both forms, so that's really a non-issue.

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Glassed Silver

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Tried watching this full screen on my 27"er sitting 5 inches away - got eye cancer and (this is rare!) preferred windowed over fullscreened Youtube.

Still watching, so no comment apart from that for now :p

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redvamp128

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I didn't watch the whole thing, but of the bits I did watch some were incorrect.

Firstly, practically all Linux distros share at least 3 components: The kernel, X server and GCC. That is a standard among all distros. The only difference is the versions. Which you have the same issues with versioning of components on other OSes too, so not a linux specific thing.

Secondly, a .tar.gz file is not a package file of any kind that I know of. It's nothing more than an archive file, like a zip file.

And last, why does it matter if there multiple package formats? There are really only 2 major ones anyway, deb and RPM and most (if not all Linux software) is distributed in both forms, so that's really a non-issue.

I agree with you on most of your points though what I find is funny is that what he is complaining about Linux is what makes it so different than Windows. For example where else can for the most part can you get all your applications up to date with one quick check for updates. You know the package manager that most distributions where it checks the repository for the latest. I mean with Windows I had to go into each application and choose update versus on my Linux..... one command line that is in the history and it updates my Firefox, OS, Chrome, Chromium , Opera, and other programs.

I myself have never had the sound issues he describes... 90% of the time it just worked the only time was with the laptop that I had to attach to a hard wire to download the wireless driver.

I laughed when he said .tgz (back many years ago that was the only way to install something that only provided a source this you had to compile) now you just - for safety change the properties to executable then run it and put password in. (you can still compile things on your own if you like with minimal speed gains)

This guy obviously is making assumptions of the way Linux used to be , however; now it is point & click then password and it installs.

What he does not realize is that most distributions use one of two of the sound systems, but the other ones are kept in there for compatibility with older programs.

Also what he does not realize is that most distributions will automatically find the dependencies of most applications and download them by default.

This is so unlike Windows you do not find yourself in .dll mess.

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Glassed Silver

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That's the video I was talking about!

More recent version, same guy, same event, just the 2012 version with a bunch of updated info and more current references, such as Wayland:

@OP video: some good points, but man that man needs to use a better cam and mic and wash his hair before doing a YT video.

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