Xbox 360 LIVE Beta enrollment now open for 2012 Fall update


Recommended Posts

Plenty

Well without flash and active x the browser is pretty much useless.

Plenty of people browse the web on their iPhone/iPad without missing Flash.

Flash will NEVER make it to the XBOX browser in my opinion.

Although it's not something i'll really find myself doing, i'm glad the option to browse the web has been added to the XBOX.

  • 2 weeks later...

I took the liberty to count just how many adverts I'm getting on this dashboard preview. I counted 31. Doesn't that seem a bit excessive for a console menu? You can't even say they're targeted - I don't play CoD or Halo anymore and I've never played Mass Effect 3.

I took the liberty to count just how many adverts I'm getting on this dashboard preview. I counted 31. Doesn't that seem a bit excessive for a console menu? You can't even say they're targeted - I don't play CoD or Halo anymore and I've never played Mass Effect 3.

It is quite ridiculous. Not sure why I even bother paying for a Gold subscription honestly, you would think being a paid subscriber means not having to be bombarded by ads.

Including the ads, It really is incredibly quite cluttered when all is said and done. Not the most intuitive IMO either. If not for the ability to pin things, I would really dislike it. I much prefer the simplicity and minimalism of XMB, and even that has a little to many ads for my taste, but still nowhere near as much as this latest dashboard (if dashboard is indeed what it is still called).

Now keep in mind, I am pretty old school with my needs from gaming consoles. I need them to play games and stream videos, in that order. Any other additional functionality I either hardly ever use or do not use at all. So all this other **** like search and browse the web and be shown things I may also like based on what I have played, pretty much useless from my perspective. Really would have loved to see the ability to just have a streamlined simplified version of the interface just to fit my needs. Perhaps it is there and I have not discovered it yet. For now I have the pin ability which kind of resolves my issue with everything else.

It is quite ridiculous. Not sure why I even bother paying for a Gold subscription honestly, you would think being a paid subscriber means not having to be bombarded by ads.

Including the ads, It really is incredibly quite cluttered when all is said and done. Not the most intuitive IMO either. If not for the ability to pin things, I would really dislike it. I much prefer the simplicity and minimalism of XMB, and even that has a little to many ads for my taste, but still nowhere near as much as this latest dashboard (if dashboard is indeed what it is still called).

Now keep in mind, I am pretty old school with my needs from gaming consoles. I need them to play games and stream videos, in that order. Any other additional functionality I either hardly ever use or do not use at all. So all this other **** like search and browse the web and be shown things I may also like based on what I have played, pretty much useless from my perspective. Really would have loved to see the ability to just have a streamlined simplified version of the interface just to fit my needs. Perhaps it is there and I have not discovered it yet. For now I have the pin ability which kind of resolves my issue with everything else.

Pinning is a missed opportunity as it stands in the beta. If I pin a game and use that to launch it - the stupid thing opens the marketplace page of the game instead of launching it. It takes 3 "clicks" to launch a game i.e. home 1> my pins 2> game 3> play_now

That is just ridiculous and useless. There is also their continued neglect of system video/music/photo players :/ they can't be pinned (or show up in recent) for some arbitrary reasons. I use them extensively and it is just plain irritating.

I don't count the "game suggestions" as ads. I guess some would but to me that's some useful information, taking the games I've played into account and showing me something that's the same that I might like. I'm all for that type of info on my dashboard.

  • Like 1

I don't count the "game suggestions" as ads. I guess some would but to me that's some useful information, taking the games I've played into account and showing me something that's the same that I might like. I'm all for that type of info on my dashboard.

I thought I was never bothered by those gaming-related ads but I find my usage as jumping around ads(all kinds) to get to stuff that I need.

The very routine things I do such as start/join a party, read messages, check who is online etc. are buried behind multi-level menus (either the blade-guide or the social tab) and out of the 9 tiles on the Home screen only 3 are useful to me (one of them is stupid as I posted above).

They need to re-do the whole dashboard layout to improve navigation, the latest update is nothing but a mess.

One more example is that there are two kinds of music players to play music from a PC on the network depending on where you start. That is just bad design.

I've noticed a very laggy experience within the guide. My friends list usually is not playing the game that is listed. Also, joining a party seems to take forever to load the names. Not sure if anyone else has had those issues. I haven't seen the replicated gamertag glitch/error from the previous dashboard though.

Not to double post like a noob, but I got an update today when I signed in. Not sure what the changes were as I haven't really looked into what the update was about. Anyone else get it?

I haven't managed to use my 360 much this past week or so but the last update I got was one related to IE mostly since it kicked on when I tried to use the app.

I like the speed and functionality of the new dashboard, but I don't like a lot of the UI changes they've made. They've added a lot of gradients and junk that shouldn't be in a Metro interface. Somewhat disappointing from that regard.

Ok, figured i'd ask here, as you can see on the first page I was one of the first to sign up but never got around to putting the key in my Xbox (travelling, family stuff) now i'm checking on Connect and don't see the place for finding my key again. I look at where it supposed to be but I don't have the option anymore. Should have just saved my key in a notepad file but figured it would always be there. Anyone got a link to it to PM me? (obviously i'd need to be accepted in order for the link to work anyways).

I like the speed and functionality of the new dashboard, but I don't like a lot of the UI changes they've made. They've added a lot of gradients and junk that shouldn't be in a Metro interface. Somewhat disappointing from that regard.

I agree with you for the most part, they should dump the gradients at least. Other than that I like the overall update, it feels faster and there's more info per group. Pinning is nice and I find the game suggestions handy as well. IE works to, and loads the pages I've tried so far fast though neowin is a bit funky when scrolling at this point. I just wish I could get more apps in my locale, it's all US for the most part with Canada and the UK having a few, maybe some other of the bigger EU nations as well, France and Germany. I'm out in the cold though and I hope at least the future Xbox Music and Video service doesn't leave me out as well.

I agree with you for the most part, they should dump the gradients at least. Other than that I like the overall update, it feels faster and there's more info per group. Pinning is nice and I find the game suggestions handy as well. IE works to, and loads the pages I've tried so far fast though neowin is a bit funky when scrolling at this point. I just wish I could get more apps in my locale, it's all US for the most part with Canada and the UK having a few, maybe some other of the bigger EU nations as well, France and Germany. I'm out in the cold though and I hope at least the future Xbox Music and Video service doesn't leave me out as well.

Yup, pinning's fantastic, and Internet Explorer is decent enough. Can't see myself using it much, but hey, not gonna complain about having it.

Another UI quibble: I've noticed that they seem to be caching the box art and logos, so if your Internet goes out or you use your Xbox offline the interface becomes extremely ugly, with placeholder box art/logos. I do like how the tile icons are larger and bolder, however.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Onkyo Dolby Atmos AV receivers are really solid deals by Sayan Sen Recently we covered great deals on several soundbar models from the likes of Sony, JBL, Samsung and others for really good prices (the lowest in several months). Aside from that we also reported on the Edifier S3000MKII, a hi-fi two-way bookshelf monitor that's available for only $800. Today we bring a list of AV receivers from Onkyo that are available at great prices including the Onkyo NR7100, RZ30, and 8470 (purchase links under the specs table down below). The Onkyo TX-NR7100 and Onkyo TX-RZ30 are both 9.2-channel AV receivers designed for immersive home theater setups but they occupy slightly different tiers within Onkyo’s lineup with the RZ30 positioned as the more advanced model. The TX-NR7100 is a THX Certified 9.2-channel receiver offering up to 100 W per channel (8 ohms, 2 channels driven). It supports Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, and IMAX Enhanced formats, with flexible configurations such as 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 speaker layouts. A key highlight is its built-in Dirac Live Room Correction which should help optimize sound based on your room and its acoustics. In comparison, both models share several core capabilities though the RZ30 is geared toward enthusiasts seeking more precise calibration and system flexibility, while the NR7100 is positioned as a slightly more accessible, value-focused option with strong all-round performance. The technical specs of the RZ30 and NR7100 9.2 AVRs are given in the table below: Specification Onkyo TX-RZ30 Onkyo TX-NR7100 Power Output (FTC, 2ch driven) ~100 W/ch (8Ω, 20Hz–20kHz, 0.08% THD) 100 W/ch (8Ω, 20Hz–20kHz, 0.08% THD) Dynamic / Peak Power 9 × 170 W (6Ω, 1kHz, 1% THD, 1ch driven) 220 W/ch (6Ω, 1kHz, 10% THD, 1ch driven) Frequency Response 5 Hz – 100 kHz (+1/-3 dB) 10 Hz – 100 kHz (+1/-3 dB) THD 0.08% 0.08% Room Correction Dirac Live (full bandwidth) Dirac Live (with AccuReflex support) Immersive Audio Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced Speaker Layout Support Up to 7.2.2 / 5.2.4 / 9.2 processing Up to 7.2.4 / 5.2.4 / 9.2 processing HDMI Inputs / Outputs 6 inputs / 2 outputs (eARC) 6 inputs / 2 outputs (Main + Sub/Zone 2) HDMI 2.1 Support 8K/60, 4K/120, VRR, ALLM, QFT, DSC, eARC 8K/60, 4K/120, VRR, ALLM, QFT, DSC, eARC Video Formats HDR10+, Dolby Vision, HDCP 2.3 HDR10+, Dolby Vision, HDCP 2.3 Streaming / Network Wi-Fi, AirPlay 2, Chromecast, Bluetooth, DTS Play-Fi Wi-Fi, AirPlay 2, Chromecast, Bluetooth, DTS Play-Fi Get them at the links below: Onkyo TX-RZ30 9.2-Channel AV Receiver: $797.00 (Sold and shipped by Electronic Expo) Onkyo TX-NR7100 9.2-Channel AV Receiver: $699.00 (Sold and shipped by Adorma) Onkyo TX-8470 2 Ch Stereo Receiver: $449.00 (Sold and Shipped by Adorma) Good to know This Amazon deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links or authorized dealer links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from such links only. Check out Today's Deals on Amazon | or our recent tech deals. Become a Prime member (for Students or SNAP) via Neowin Get Prime Access - Prime for half price (for qualifying Medicaid, EBT, SNAP) Subscribe to Prime Video, Audible Plus, Music Unlimited or Kindle Unlimited via Neowin As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
    • A different thing with Russia. When you say is it better, depends on things. It is better that we don't have the E.U making rules and laws that have nothing to do with them. Is the trading part better? No, that is really mucked up, but then we knew that was going to happen and we would have make agreements, like we do with other parts of the world. Freedom of movement is certainly better, but could be improved, we still need more control over our borders. do you live in the U.K?
    • So what am I quoting from them? I never listened to what Farage or his cronies said. I wanted the U.K to leave the E.u years before the referendum and it had nothing to do with Farage and his cronies. So what country do you live in? Did we work much better together? We were always at logger heads with the E.U because we disagreed with them so much. Maggie was always on at them. I would have thought the E.U was glad to get rid of us as we stopped the integration or made it a two tier. Now without us they can integrate more. I would not have voted out if it was just a trading block and we can still work together on somethings.
    • MPC-BE 1.9.0 by Razvan Serea Media Player Classic - BE is a free and open source audio and video player for Windows. Media Player Classic - BE is based on the original "Media Player Classic" project (Gabest) and "Media Player Classic Home Cinema" project (Casimir666), contains additional features and bug fixes. The BE mod (Black Edition Mod) is a skinned version of Media Player Classic Home Cinema, much better looking than the plain old MPC. MPC-BE 1.9.0 changelog: Splitters Fixed crashes in some situations. AudioSplitter Added support for the RF64 format. Fixed reading of channel layout for some WavPack files. Added support for ID3 tags for Wave64 files. Unknown Wave64 chunks are now ignored. AviSplitter Added support for 'y408' video. Improved support for 'HEVC' video. FLVSplitter Added support for VVC video. MP4Splitter Improved handling of corrupted files. MatroskaSplitter Expanded support for V_UNCOMPRESSED video codecs. Fixed support for frame rotation (ProjectionPoseRoll). Improved support for "V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / HEVC". MpcDvdVideoDecoder Fixed conversion to YUY2. Fixed display of menus for some DVD-Videos. RoQVideoDecoder Output in NV12 and YV12 formats is allowed. Full range is used. MPC Video Decoder RGB32 format will be output as a top-down bitmap by default. Added support for the "IID_MediaSideDataDOVIMetadataV2" interface. Removed support for the deprecated "IID_MediaSideDataDOVIMetadata" interface. Fixed retrieving the name of the video adapter when using NVDEC. Fixed crashes in some situations. MPC Video Converter Added support for AYUV video format. MpcAudioRenderer Improved input format validation. Optimized retrieval of supported formats for exclusive mode. Added the "Keep audio device active when paused" setting. Fixed crashes and freezes in various situations. Subtitles Added the ability to open the properties of an external subtitle renderer in the "Subtitles" settings panel. Fixed external subtitle connections for VSFilter. Fixed a crash when rendering PGS/SUP subtitles when using AVX2. YouTube Improved support for yt-dlp. The built-in YouTube parser is no longer used. Player The HTTP read strategy has been changed. If the playlist contains one entry, more key combinations can be used to control the player (jump through chapters, adjust volume). Improved support for reading ASX playlists. The translation of the MediaInfo report for Chinese, Korean and Japanese has been removed. Added blocking of 32-bit filter "PICVideo Lossless JPEG Decompressor" (pvljpg20.dll), because it crashes. Added blocking of the system filter "AVI Decompressor", which will eliminate the crash of VFW codecs. Fixed a rare crash when using the "/slave" key. Fixed a crash when getting a list of fonts for OSD. Added the ability to load an external audio file using hotkeys. Fixed opening a network path starting with \?\UNC. The "Determine duration when adding" playlist setting now works for YouTube video URLs. The "Online media services" settings panel has been redesigned. Added a "Merge files using FFmpeg" option to the file saving dialog. This option is activated when playing multiple streams obtained using yt-dlp. Added loading of local .dpl playlists ("DAUMPLAYLIST"). Fixed a hang when the user closes the player during the URL opening process. Various interface fixes. Installer Updated MPC Video Renderer 0.10.5. Updated MPC Script Source 0.2.17. Added MPC Image Source 0.3.6. Translations Updated Japanese translation (by tsubasanouta). Updated Chinese (Traditional) and Dutch translation (by beter). Updated Romanian translation (by Andrei Miloiu). Updated Hungarian translation (by mickey). Updated Turkish translation (by cmhrky). Updated German translation (by Klaus1189). Updated Chinese (Simplified) translation (by wushantao). Updated Italian translation (by mapi68). Updated Korean translation (by Hackjjang). Updated Chinese (Traditional) (by udfbe). Updated libraries dav1d 1.5.3-6-g04b69f9; ffmpeg n8.2-dev-1857-g4653e68aab; libpng git-v1.6.55-9-g7d52a8087; Little-CMS git-lcms2.18-26-gf739cda; MediaInfo git-v26.05-38-g702c9b7fd; ZenLib git-v0.4.41-91-g073f297; zlib 1.3.2. Download: MPC-BE 64-bit | Portable MPC-BE 64-bit | ~20.0 MB (Open Source) Download: MPC-BE 32-bit | Portable MPC-BE 32-bit Link: Media Player Classic - BE Home Page Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Apple reportedly looks to blacklisted Chinese memory chips as RAM prices climb by Karthik Mudaliar Image via Apple Apple is reportedly trying to get a clearance from the Trump administration to buy memory from ChangXin Memory Technologies (CXMT) to get some relief from soaring DRAM prices. As per a report by the Financial Times, Apple approached the Commerce Department more than a month ago and also spoke to other officials and allies in Washington. For starters, CXMT is a company that's already been placed on the Pentagon's list of Chinese military companies. The Chinese company is the country's top DRAM maker. For Apple, the timing is certainly awkward but not surprising. Tim Cook had recently warned that Apple would have to raise prices because AI companies are buying up large amounts of memory for data centers, and just like that, Apple raised MacBook and iPad prices. Micron also recently revealed that customers have committed billions of dollars to secure memory supply years in advance, which shows us how aggressive securing infrastructure has become. This gives suppliers such as Samsung, SK Hynix, and Micron more leverage, while pushing hardware makers to look for alternatives. CXMT is one of those alternatives, but not the simplest one. Apple has spent many years trying to diversify parts of its supply chain away from China, especially for final assembly, while still depending heavily on Chinese manufacturing and suppliers. Even domestic brands from China are moving towards CXMT and YMTC instead of relying on Samsung, Micron, and SK Hynix. For Apple, though, it would invite more scrutiny than local Chinese companies. For now, this is more like a lobbying effort rather than a confirmed supply deal. There's no official statement from either of the parties. What is clearer, though, is the pressure behind such a request. AI demand has certainly made hardware a bottleneck, and companies are trying everything they can to bring things back to normal, even if that means making politically sensitive choices. Source: Financial Times
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Woland13 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Woland13 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Year In
      bernmeister earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Week One Done
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      493
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      227
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      148
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      75
    5. 5
      FloatingFatMan
      70
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!