Nothing Here Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I was running FF 14.0.1 (x86) and Flash 11.3.300.268 (x86) and flash was constantly crashing. I also noticed that in task manager there are 2 flash plgins running + FF's plugincontainer. One of the flash player plugins run at over a gig and the other runs at about 200+mb. When flash doesn't crash, FF crashes. I am running Win7 x64. I switched to FF Nightly and the crashes aren't as frequent, but they do occur. Flash plugins also run a lot lower. One runs at about 180mb and the other barely reaches 5mb. Anyways, Nightly seems more stable for me at this point then stable. But was wondering if running x64 of Flash and FF would be better? I have never run the x64 versions, so I don't know. Any suggestions? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4nB3arP1g Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I don't have any suggestions but I also have been having constant crashes with FF and flash since updating to version 14. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing Here Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Well, at least I know it's not just me. Thanx for the input M4nB3arP1g. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeah, people have lots of problems with Flash and Firefox these days, especially with crashes and draw issues. One workaround is to downgrade Flash to 10.3 and see if that helps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I've used to have this problem with Internet Explorer and Flash. But that's history. I don't use IE any more. This problem seems to occur to a few people who's computer is infected with a virus that flash is running something in the background. During my past experience, I conclude that this is because the web site that you went through contains malicious code that allow Flash to run ads in the background. I have had a problem where I hear audio that came out of nowhere. The web page does not have ads but contains code that call Flash. I have been using Waterfox (which is Firefox but 64bit version) and I have not seen any Flash related issues. I have zero crash experience on Waterfox. My theory about the multiple Flash process running in the background is that there are malicious site that take advantage of the Flash sandbox thing. Try Waterfox with Flash 64bit to see if it will still crash or runs extra Flash process in the background. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Waterfox 14 suffers from the same Flash draw issues when scrolling and some crashes like Firefox 14 does. I've heard another workaround is disabling hardware acceleration for Flash when right clicking on a video > Settings. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing Here Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Thanx. I will try all of that and see what happens. This is a fresh install of Win7/Win8 dual boot(Well fresh in the last 2 days.) and it has happened from the get go. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke777 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Flash + IE9 no issue. Firecrap :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yeah, it's Flash 11.3 causing it. Uninstall Flash 11.3 and try 10.3 to compare. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing Here Posted July 30, 2012 Author Share Posted July 30, 2012 Grrr!!! I can't get flash installed on Waterfox. The file I downloaded disappeared and while it was dling the installer, it times out. So waterfox is a bust for me........ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595046353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub_Zero_Alchemist Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Flash + IE9 no issue. Firecrap :D How does your anti browser rant helping matters. I was running FF 14.0.1 (x86) and Flash 11.3.300.268 (x86) and flash was constantly crashing. I also noticed that in task manager there are 2 flash plgins running + FF's plugincontainer. One of the flash player plugins run at over a gig and the other runs at about 200+mb. When flash doesn't crash, FF crashes. I am running Win7 x64. I switched to FF Nightly and the crashes aren't as frequent, but they do occur. Flash plugins also run a lot lower. One runs at about 180mb and the other barely reaches 5mb. Anyways, Nightly seems more stable for me at this point then stable. But was wondering if running x64 of Flash and FF would be better? I have never run the x64 versions, so I don't know. Any suggestions? No crashes here, most of issues has been on adobe's side. the only thing i can think of is wait for more bug fixes for flash from adobe, or temporary disable flash. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595047529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexkeyboard Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The recent flash issue with firefox is the new sandbox that adobe added to supposedly making it harder to be exploited. But it's also making Firefox crashes more often. This problem is driving a massive number of people to other browsers. The best solution is to switch two versions back to 11.2.202.228. Why two versions back? because I've found even flash 11.2.202.235 is causing major stalls with page that have tons of flash objects. You can grab old version here here http://helpx.adobe.c...r-versions.html until adobe/mozilla get there **** straight. xtrabit racing 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595047541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrabit racing Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 switch to 11.2. it solved for me. with 11.3, ff regularly get and lose focus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595047551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: Lyon :: Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Had this problem no matter what I did (even downgraded Flash to different versions) Solution if you still wanna use Firefox: Install Firefox 15 Beta! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595047553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darth_vader Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Or you could go to "C:\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash", open "mms.cfg" and add ProtectedMode=0. I've yet to see a flash player crash on Firefox 14.0.1 without protected mode. Steven P. 1 Share Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595047557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoneAvail Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Firefox has just been crashing ever since this morning after I applied the flash patch as well. It will get stuck at one point at the "connecting" stage and just hang there. Going to try out IE9 now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595047559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing Here Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Ok, so I pretty much fixed my issue. *knock on wood* First I reformatted my drive with Win8 RP x64, then I installed FF 3.6.7 x86 and then flash 11.3.300.268 x86. Then I updated FF via the FF updater to 14.01 and have not had a crash yet. Then I did the same to my Win7 x64 drive. Upon running FF under Win7, my flash became unstable and crashed. FF followed suit, then my system gave me a BSoD. Don't remember the error code. Anyways, I wiped the Win7 drive and installed Fedora 17 on it. So now I am running Win8 RP and I have no issues. Win8 even runs my games a lot smoother. So no more Win7 for me. No dual boot with any thing either now that I have the extra drive. I may not like MetroUI, but damn me to Hell! it works a lot better then Win7 ever did. Don't know if my experience will help anyone else, but it surely helped me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595049485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I solved the Flash crash stuff -- but 13, 14 versions of Firefox keep messing up. Even tho I shut down FF before shutting off the computer, FF then starts up next time, saying 'this is embarassing ...' and it asks if I want to start a new session. Another issue is, sometimes I can't open a 3rd window -- it's either ridiculously shrunk in size, or the window is just blank. FF seems to just lose my preferences too at times. Newer is not always better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595049497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing Here Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Try dling FF 3.6.7, then uninstall FF, delete prefs and then install 3.6.7, update it all the way using the inbuilt updater and then add in all your extensions and then uninstall flash and then reinstall it. Make sure to use Ccleaner to clear all temps and then the Ccleaner reg cleaner at each stage of removal. Don't know if it will fix your issue, but it wouldn't hurt to try. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595049535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
inactive Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 i dumped regular Firefox and am on 'Pale Moon x64' which is basically just a 64bit version of Firefox. i don't have any issues with Flash on that and i am running newest flash. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1094907-flash-113300268-firefox-1401-nothing-but-issues/#findComment-595049543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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