Warner Bros. Prepping for a Batman Reboot in 2016?


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How many times are they going to reboot Batman? At this point, rebooting won't do it anymore. They need to reformat the hard drive.

I feel people seem to get carried away with this word "reboot". I don't see what the big deal is with someone making another Batman film.

Wow, they are really running out of ideas aren't they!

Ugh, this stupid line again. Seems more like people here are running out of ideas for replies to such topics.

No need for spoilers.

The majority of the issue with TDKR is the fact that it's stupidly long, huge gaps between action and had so much more potential than it was given.

Maybe for somebody with the attention span of the average pet dog, but I found the pacing and length of TDKR to be perfectly fine.

Sure it's not as good as TDK, I mean who can top Heath Ledger's Joker, but it's still a very good film in it's own right.

My only criticisms were that it seems a little confused in places, and we really didn't get to see Batman very much at all. Also I really wasn't keen on them using New York in place of Gotham. They could've at least made an effort to digitally disguise some of the famous NY landmarks like the Empire State and the new 1 WTC tower.

My initial reaction is, "good god, no!"

But who knows. I don't remember my reaction to the idea of Batman Begins (given the films beforehand though, I would imagine it wasn't a good reaction). I'll wait until more details come out.

The majority of the issue with TDKR is the fact that it's stupidly long, huge gaps between action and had so much more potential than it was given.

Ya know, I felt similarly, but on seeing it again I just loved it. Probably the change in expectations, whatever, it just felt right.

I am yet to see TDKR, I am a bit worried I might hate it!

I loved it! I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. I don't believe it's better than The Dark Knight, but I do believe it's pretty awesome and better than Batman Begins.

I loved it! I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. I don't believe it was better than The Dark Knight, but I did believe it was pretty awesome and better than Batman Begins.

seems to be the consensus!

bought empire today and they gave it 5

I loved it! I don't understand why so many people seem to dislike it. I don't believe it's better than The Dark Knight, but I do believe it's pretty awesome and better than Batman Begins.

I found the plot became increasinly tedious and uninteresting. The overbearing emotional self-importance of it all had me cringing of times. Not to mention some ridiculously stupid and hammy scenes.

@Rappy: I really can't understand how anyone could give it 5/5. Although Empire did give Indy4 4/5.

@Rappy: I really can't understand how anyone could give it 5/5. Although Empire did give Indy4 4/5.

I thought it was really weird, but then Empire gave it a massive glowing review saying it was a masterpiece

This doesn't sound much like a "reboot" to me though, it's not picking up right from the start, it's not a do over of batman begins for example. They seem to be picking a period between say, batman begins and tdk or w/e and going from there. Sure it's a new actor and probably the style will be different but that doesn't much matter. Unlike spiderman where they did go back to square one and started over, that is more of a reboot. If you just pick a time somewhere in the middle of the batman world and make a movie then I don't think of it as the same really.

I'd hate it if they did infact start all the way from scratch and went through the whole creating batman process again for a new movie. At this point even if the target audience is new younger people I think they already know who batman is and how he started.

This doesn't sound much like a "reboot" to me though, it's not picking up right from the start, it's not a do over of batman begins for example. They seem to be picking a period between say, batman begins and tdk or w/e and going from there. Sure it's a new actor and probably the style will be different but that doesn't much matter. Unlike spiderman where they did go back to square one and started over, that is more of a reboot. If you just pick a time somewhere in the middle of the batman world and make a movie then I don't think of it as the same really.

I'd hate it if they did infact start all the way from scratch and went through the whole creating batman process again for a new movie. At this point even if the target audience is new younger people I think they already know who batman is and how he started.

A reboot doesn't mean the narritive has to start at square one, it just means to discard what was established in the story prior.

A reboot doesn't mean the narritive has to start at square one, it just means to discard what was established in the story prior.

Which depends on how much they change, I honestly, seeing how they're now making even superman, not much will change from Nolans dark tone, and I think it shouldn't. They might scale back the "realism" that we've had so far and go closer to the comics but the dark and serious version we've had for 3 films I don't expect will change. If they go back to the more detective style batman that has to salve problems and use his head just as much as his fists and combat skills then I'm all for it. Personally I want to see someone do a movie with Riddler, I think a really good movie can be done with him alone as the bad guy, so underrated in the universe. I think we've gotten enough batman movies with Joker, hell the newest batman game killed him off!

To the people that are talking about reboots of films based off of comics: This is what happens to the comics themselves as well. It's not a reboot, but just another story based off of the same character set in a different universe. It's different than when Terminator or Back To The Future gets rebooted.

There's loads of comics about Batman's beginnings and they all have different titles. It's the same with Spiderman, X-Men and all the other super heroes. The stories are also different than the other titles and they're usually set in different universus. I see these movies that are based off of such comics as the same. A new story of the same character with a new title set in a different universe.

To the people that are talking about reboots of films based off of comics: This is what happens to the comics themselves as well. It's not a reboot, but just another story based off of the same character set in a different universe. It's different than when Terminator or Back To The Future gets rebooted.

There's loads of comics about Batman's beginnings and they all have different titles. It's the same with Spiderman, X-Men and all the other super heroes. The stories are also different than the other titles and they're usually set in different universus. I see these movies that are based off of such comics as the same. A new story of the same character with a new title set in a different universe.

Oh I know about all that and It's why I got away from US comics and moved over to Japanese and Korean manga/manwha. They do have series that are crazy long and don't look like they'll end but they don't pull that crap, a series has it's one plot line and maybe some side stories or spin-offs but that's it. None of this alternate time line and so on, and most things end at some point. I think DC got tired of the mess that was made all these years in their comics and that's why the just rebooted everything over and have no started fresh. I hope this time they don't make a mess of things.

It is going to be tough to beat Christopher Nolan's trilogy. I think the few that dislike The Dark Knight Rises were the bandwagoners who thought The Dark Knight was the best thing ever and were expecting The Dark Knight Rises to use the same formula and genre. But that's not Nolan's style as he uses a different genre for each film in his trilogy, which makes it enjoyable and non-repetitive. Although Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker was the highlight of the trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises brings back what the story is all about: Bruce Wayne. Incorporating the story of Batman Begins and the plot of The Dark Knight was a perfect combination to conclude the trilogy.

A reboot doesn't mean the narritive has to start at square one, it just means to discard what was established in the story prior.

Which depends on how much they change, I honestly, seeing how they're now making even superman, not much will change from Nolans dark tone, and I think it shouldn't. They might scale back the "realism" that we've had so far and go closer to the comics but the dark and serious version we've had for 3 films I don't expect will change.

But that doesn't mean it's not a "reboot". It almost certainly won't be working from Nolan's continuity, so it's a "reboot". It doesn't matter about style or tone.

It is going to be tough to beat Christopher Nolan's trilogy. I think the few that dislike The Dark Knight Rises were the bandwagoners who thought The Dark Knight was the best thing ever and were expecting The Dark Knight Rises to use the same formula and genre. But that's not Nolan's style as he uses a different genre for each film in his trilogy, which makes it enjoyable and non-repetitive. Although Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker was the highlight of the trilogy, The Dark Knight Rises brings back what the story is all about: Bruce Wayne. Incorporating the story of Batman Begins and the plot of The Dark Knight was a perfect combination to conclude the trilogy.

Nope.

Of course not but I just don't want them to respin basically the same part of the batman universe over. If they go back and give us yet another joker movie I dunno how I'll feel about it. How about we try to move on and get a little deeper instead of just the first, I dunno, 5-10 years over and over again?

If the movies don't give me that at least the games seem to be doing a good job, thank god for rocksteady.

you can bank on the joker being back in the next batman movie, he's too big of a villian to just drop. if ledger didn't die he probably would of been in the final nolan flick as well.

Most definitely, but I'm kind of surprised that TDKR didn't even MENTION joker at all. Or even hint at him escaping during the prison escape.

My recommendation is, don't waste your time. It just cannot live up to the hype and it doesn't even come close to TDK.

That's like telling someone to not watch Return of the Jedi. Yes, TDK was very good but TDKR is not a waste of time if you care about the overall series.

If WB wants to reboot Batman I don't care. It doesn't somehow eliminate the Nolan series from existing.

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