Your bug-out guns?

[DocM]

Gun haters: don't bother posting. This is not a pro-anti thread.

A major catastrophe hits, zombie or otherwise, and you need to go into refugee mode. You'll need weapons for food and protection. Considerations have to incluse found ammo availability and hunting both large & small game. What do you take?

Me:

SIG Mk25 9mm (SEAL P226) with .40 S&W caliber X-Change kit and .357 SIG barrel. It has proven to shoot dry, wet, or filthy.

Militarized Ruger 10-22 carbine with 10 & 50 round mags. Accurate, reliable, and 1,000 rounds fits in a plastic nail box.

Saiga-12. No comment necessary.

[Joseph B]

Doc, I don't mean to offend, but you know very well how anti-gun Neowin is, this is going to sir the hive pretty good.

But I digress.

Beretta 96 .40 S&W gun wise & a Ontario Mark III Navy knife in the bag, and a Leatherman Wave. Everything else i'd rather not list, because it's just MREs and medical supplies, common sense things for a disaster.

[ncoday]

Shotgun: Remington 870

Rifle: AR15

Handgun: Springfield XDM 45ACP

[Azusa]

If availability is a factor then without Zombies sweet FA and with Zombies first month(s) MP5/7, Glock 17, and maybe an AR-15 then what ever we can find.

[SupportGeek]

Doc, thinks like I do

I have my Ruger 10/22 all weather, only 10 rounders ATM though since I live in CA, and the rifle is real light. (might buy some 25 round parts kits though)

.22LR is one of the most common cartridges around ever, you can carry a lot with minimal weight, and while not the BEST choice as a zombie killer, with proper shot placement, it can still drop em well enough.

My G19 gen3, compact, 9mm is common with LE and military, so finding ammo may not be very difficult, while it doesnt carry the power overall of a .45 Im more of a believer in shot placement than relying on hydrostatic shock anyhow, and I control my G19 to make good quick follow ups. Glocks are also the AK-47 of pistols, I could store it in an anthill and it would still fire.

Dont have it yet, but its my next purchase and gets added as soon as I have it in my mittens, Remington 870, or Mossberg 500, either should be just fine to cover my shotgun needs.

[Nothing Here]

1. Colt Delta Elite 1911 10mm

2. Ruger SR-22 rifle

3. Barnett Predator 375

4. Cold Steel Panga

5. Lee Hand Press + carbide dies

6. Rothco Water Purification Tabs

7. Iodine

[DocM]

Doc, thinks like I do

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We do think along similar lines. The Saiga-12 is based on the AK action so it too could be buried in a marsh, dug out and instantly shoot. I value that a lot.

Out of curiosity, what ammo does your 10-22 like? Mine seems to do best with the Remington Velocitor 40g Gold Dot. I've done gels with it with penetrations as deep as 14-15 inches and up to 0.36 expansion. Wicked for a .22.

[Open Minded]

AR-15 (M4 style)

Mossberg 12 gauge

Springfield XD 9mm

And my Ruger 10-22 if possible.

We should post pics of our BOB and gear! I'm about to head out, but I'll post some later.

Doc, thinks like I do

I have my Ruger 10/22 all weather, only 10 rounders ATM though since I live in CA, and the rifle is real light. (might buy some 25 round parts kits though)

http://www.44mag.com...ory/ruger_10_22

Check out that link. They'll ship to CA if you pay extra and have them break it down. Loop-holes FTW!!

I ordered two 18 round mags for my 9 from them. Super worth it!

[SupportGeek]

We do think along similar lines. The Saiga-12 is based on the AK action so it too could be buried in a marsh, dug out and instantly shoot. I value that a lot.

Out of curiosity, what ammo does your 10-22 like? Mine seems to do best with the Remington Velocitor 40g Gold Dot. I've done gels with it with penetrations as deep as 14-15 inches and up to 0.36 expansion. Wicked for a .22.

Yea, I want my firearm to be able to take abuse and still function, it sure doesnt hurt if it eats anything I feed it too.

I have not done extensive testing with the 10/22 only probably tried about 8 types, but so far its happy with 36gr CCI Minimags, I will have to see if it likes the Velocitor too.

[Chris123NT]

I would have a Glock or other 9mm variant, and an AR-15 chambered in .223/5.56

And a ******** of 30 round mags for the AR

[+John Teacake MVC]

I would love to be legally allowed to have Guns like this! Although I cant I am in the UK. Have you read the Neil Strauss Book Emergency By any chance?....

[DocM]

I have not done extensive testing with the 10/22 only probably tried about 8 types, but so far its happy with 36gr CCI Minimags, I will have to see if it likes the Velocitor too.

Pardon my brain fart, but it's CCI Velocitor. Careful with the CCI Stinger though as it has a slightly long case length that doesn't work in all .22's.

[Crisp]

I want a green card :(

[Gerowen]

I'll assume it happened right now and I only have what I actually own.

Rifle: AR-15 (Chambered in 5.56mm/.223)

I have the iron sights on it zeroed for 300m, picatinny rails on the front (on the back too, but I like the iron sights) for attaching all manner of accessories, saving space in my pockets for more important things. .223 and 5.56mm is readily available in almost every gun store I've ever gone too, and at 3,000 fps it has plenty of punch, but it's not as popular as some other calibers, so I wouldn't be competing as much with the guy who found the store 10 minutes before I did and raided it for ammunition. The 30-06 I have would reach out further, but the size of the ammo, the amount of kick, the 5 round capacity (not expandable), and sensitivity of a scope compared to iron sights makes it unreasonable for bug-out. I have a 12 gauge, but it's a single shot, break action, so not really reasonable if you have more than one threat you have to deal with at any given time.

Ammunition on-hand: I have a steel case that started out with 420, and still has 210 rounds of green tip, steel core, 5.56mm NATO ammunition, and more 30 round magazines than I actually have room to carry, plus a 20 rounder for shooting prone because it is shorter than the pistol grip on the lower receiver, unlike the 30 rounders.

Side-arm: Smith & Wesson Sigma - .40 Caliber - Softened Trigger

I've had this thing for a while and never ever had it offer to malfunction. After softening the trigger myself by removing two unnecessary springs I have groups an inch across at 25 yards, which if I must say so myself, isn't bad for a pistol. .40 caliber is fairly popular round, has more punch and knockdown power than a 9mm or a .22, but isn't so large that I need a hand-cannon to shoot it. The pistol has no button safeties, so if I was caught by surprise and had to quickly draw my weapon, I wouldn't have to go fumbling with buttons and switches to put it into operation.

Wife: Springfield XD Sub-Compact - .40 Caliber

Bought it, she loves it, it has tight shot groups, we can share ammunition, and it's easy for a small person to carry around without it being in the way.

Ammunition on-hand: Winchester "Ranger" law enforcement hollowpoints. I have enough for two full 14 round magazines for my S&W Sigma, and for a full 12 round and 10 round magazine for my wife's Springfield XD sub-compact.

[KingCracker]

AR-15 and my XD. I'd bring a small supply of cleaner and oil. The AR doesnt need to be cleaned like crazy for it to work it just has to be lubed. No oil malfunctions will occur. I choose my AR because of the availability of ammo for it. I wouldnt be engaging anyone from 200 yards or greater as its not good for survival and would only engage a threat that is endangering my immediate space. When if it comes time to bug out, it wouldnt be a time to play rambo but rather a time to evade potential threats as much as possible.

[Open Minded]

AR-15 and my XD.

I have an AR and an XD as well. I've got the 5" 9mm and my AR is an M4 (flat top) Rock River upper with an ATi lower.

[KingCracker]

I have an AR and an XD as well. I've got the 5" 9mm and my AR is an M4 (flat top) Rock River upper with an ATi lower.

Nice I have a bushmaster patrolmans carbine with a BCM full auto bolt carrier group with a BCM gunfighter mod 4 charging handle. My XD is a XD .40 subcompact.

[McKay]

Well if a Zombie outbreak happened, I may be in the UK but theres an L85A2 in the armoury with my name on it. Considering it's one of the few weapons I'd know how to strip, clean and repair I'd go with that. Future availability? Most Army/Navy/Air Force stations in the UK are going to have this stocked. Plus it would outmatch the Shotguns and hunting rifles civilians are allowed to keep here. Excellent accuracy at range, very reliable (I've fired close to 1000 rounds and have suffered 3 jams) slightly heavy and not so great in close quarters but I'd stick with the familiar.

On a regular (Non Zombie) related bugout scenario? I doubt I'd have the liberty of "bugging out". :cry:

[KingCracker]

Well if a Zombie outbreak happened, I may be in the UK but theres an L85A2 in the armoury with my name on it. Considering it's one of the few weapons I'd know how to strip, clean and repair I'd go with that. Future availability? Most Army/Navy/Air Force stations in the UK are going to have this stocked. Plus it would outmatch the Shotguns and hunting rifles civilians are allowed to keep here. Excellent accuracy at range, very reliable (I've fired close to 1000 rounds and have suffered 3 jams) slightly heavy and not so great in close quarters but I'd stick with the familiar.

On a regular (Non Zombie) related bugout scenario? I doubt I'd have the liberty of "bugging out". :cry:

Not a fan of bullpups but I wonder why those arent imported into the U.S probably some sort agreement between the two countries. Never the less i'll take my AR.

[McKay]

Not a fan of bullpups but I wonder why those arent imported into the U.S probably some sort agreement between the two countries. Never the less i'll take my AR.

You might know it as the SA80, however we're taught to refer to it as the L85A2 model here, which replaced the older less reliable L85A1 model. Ive seen videos of Americans shooting it before I don't think there's an agreement not to buy them.

I don't know why he specifies it as "not very accurate" though. I know there are better rifles out there but effective up to 400M is hardly "inaccurate".

[KingCracker]

You might know it as the SA80, however we're taught to refer to it as the L85A2 model here, which replaced the older less reliable L85A1 model. Ive seen videos of Americans shooting it before I don't think there's an agreement not to buy them.

Dont know, I havent seen them in any gun shops or online retailers.Then again I havent really looked for them.

[Azusa]

You might know it as the SA80, however we're taught to refer to it as the L85A2 model here, which replaced the older less reliable L85A1 model. Ive seen videos of Americans shooting it before I don't think there's an agreement not to buy them.

didn't they get H&K to fix it up at one point?

[Rippleman]

What? Rippleman here in a pro-gun thread? yes, as i said in the past, I don't HATE guns, I just hate PEOPLE with guns. Anywhoos Dad is a cowboy and rides horses (only 60) and is freshly getting into the sport of horse riding and shooting on a track. Can't recall what its called but seems to be his "new" passion 9 (goes through one every 5-7 years). So he picked up a couple Colt .45's to add to his collection of ~20 rifles and pistols of sorts. I don't typically care to shoot, but he asked me to and since i never fired a .45 i thought sure. Don't know the make, but has a kick to it. I haven't shot a pistol for 20 years but its still the same lol. the pics are my shots from 20 yards away. In a zombie apocalypse i can say I think i would prefer a smaller gun then the 45. maybe i was out of practice (very likely) as you can see the results of my target pic.

[KingCracker]

Do you hate your dad? With all those guns I bet you go into a rage a lot. Or do you mean you like guns and only think your family should own them.

[McKay]

didn't they get H&K to fix it up at one point?

Yes, the redesigned "A2" variant, which replaced the A1 was done by H&K, (Then owned by BAE)