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These closeups are amazing, now if only they showed a game!

 

I mean seriously, car closeups have looked fantastic since NFS: The Run on PC.

 

Am I missing something here, or is this just more useless hype?

did you bother watching the videos, a lot of their screenshots are actual in game as stated earlier.

Youtube video compression doesn't to justice to any gameplay video. I watched them and yea, the amount of detail is notably higher, the lighting is much better, but the speed of motion made worse by the compression robs much of the prettiness. I shall see actual gameplay or much higher quality recording before I judge either way.

Funny this thread popped up, the past few days I've been on a racing game hunt. Haven't played one in a long time and my son, who is now 4 1/2, is starting to get into games a bit. I looked at Asseto Corsa for a good long while yesterday but just do not want to buy-in to anymore pre-release stuff. I remember reading about Project CARS sometime last year and it just sounded so good but it was also a closed alpha/beta type thing so I just put it off. I've been playing F1 2013 lately and am really enjoying it - you can really get in deep with some of the tech/setups - but its not making me want to go out and buy a nice wheel for my PC. 

 

I think CARS might be it, though. If everything comes to fruition and the crazy expectations are met, I will definitely get a wheel for it, and maybe a new GPU to boot. This is definitely in my top 5 most wanted games of 2014 (Witcher 3, Titanfall, CARS, The Division, Watch_Dogs). 

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Funny this thread popped up, the past few days I've been on a racing game hunt. Haven't played one in a long time and my son, who is now 4 1/2, is starting to get into games a bit. I looked at Asseto Corsa for a good long while yesterday but just do not want to buy-in to anymore pre-release stuff. I remember reading about Project CARS sometime last year and it just sounded so good but it was also a closed alpha/beta type thing so I just put it off. I've been playing F1 2013 lately and am really enjoying it - you can really get in deep with some of the tech/setups - but its not making me want to go out and buy a nice wheel for my PC. 

 

I think CARS might be it, though. If everything comes to fruition and the crazy expectations are met, I will definitely get a wheel for it, and maybe a new GPU to boot. This is definitely in my top 5 most wanted games of 2014 (Witcher 3, Titanfall, CARS, The Division, Watch_Dogs). 

 

The Project Cars developers made both of the Need For Speed Shift games, so if you haven't played those yet, you can pick them up in the mean time.

The fact that this game is comming to Steam OS is gonna be a huge push forward to the Linux platform.

or so i hope for.

"Hey here's a game coming out on both the OS I currently use and an OS I've never touched before! The only thing to do here is switch to the one I've never used!"

Linux logic. 

"Hey here's a game coming out on both the OS I currently use and an OS I've never touched before! The only thing to do here is switch to the one I've never used!"

Linux logic. 

 

More like: more AAA titles for Linux means more time developers spend optimizing drivers and games for the platform; also if there's a stable and very advanced platform where people can play games without worrying about paying for Windows or other nuances, people will go for it; one of the main reasons people play console games is because it's simple enough to buy the hardware and play the game, without installing anything or else.

 

People wont change from Windows to Linux in a day, but this can shake waters. Remember when if you wanted to play a really cool and newer game the Arcardes were the only solution until consoles game the gamers the economy, comfort and power to play those same games in their houses.

More like: more AAA titles for Linux means more time developers spend optimizing drivers and games for the platform; also if there's a stable and very advanced platform where people can play games without worrying about paying for Windows or other nuances, people will go for it; one of the main reasons people play console games is because it's simple enough to buy the hardware and play the game, without installing anything or else.

 

People wont change from Windows to Linux in a day, but this can shake waters. Remember when if you wanted to play a really cool and newer game the Arcardes were the only solution until consoles game the gamers the economy, comfort and power to play those same games in their houses.

Playing games at home has untold numbers of advantages over playing games in an arcade, not the least of which is being able to play in your boxers.

What part of Linux gaming offers that much of an advantage to encourage an exodus?

Playing games at home has untold numbers of advantages over playing games in an arcade, not the least of which is being able to play in your boxers.

What part of Linux gaming offers that much of an advantage to encourage an exodus?

It's free is a start.  Valve may be able to build up a sufficient catalog to make it a viable option, over time.

 

There are a lot of people using DX11 vidcards on a DX9 OS...wouldn't have that problem with SteamOS.

Thankfully I am building a new PC later on this year, and I aim to build it at this game on Very High everything.

Really regretting not supporting this game when they initially announced it now.
After many, many years of hating them, I am really starting to love simulation racing games.

I am assuming it will also support my Logitech GT wheel. I also have another older Logitech wheel, and also the MS Wireless Wheel. So 1 out of the 3 should work, even if they are a bit older.
Very much looking forward to this game and a new PC.

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Ive already got the Funded Beta on steam which was released a While ago and its quite interesting popping on now and then to see the progress of the game, There are LOADS of tracks, all progressing along ( Japan always my fav ). Not to keen on the way saving car setups works, few clipping bugs ie Go Karts on normal tracks. Still on a 560ti / 1080p so cant say what Ultra settings looks like as my computer cant run without issues but it does look beautiful and the handling works well, each car has character, there aren't so many cars yet but they look great inside and out, SO MUCH detail. It supports all steering wheels with feedback, Xbox 360 Wired is my controller and its ok, never going to compare to a Wheel.

Playing games at home has untold numbers of advantages over playing games in an arcade, not the least of which is being able to play in your boxers.

What part of Linux gaming offers that much of an advantage to encourage an exodus?

 

Free being one of the key factors; high performance and stable being the other ones i look forward to have in a game station; Steam OS has the same power factor has the consoles had when they were introduced in a arcade world: if done properly, one can set up a incredible power horse game station running Linux / Steam OS just to play games, without sacrificing anything because it's running Windows, just like a modern console but with much better hardware and graphics. Mind you I'm not an anti-Windows zealot; what i mean is if Linux gets a major push one can run it just as a very simple base platform for games, consuming minimal CPU, RAM resources and leave all the resources for games.

 

Linux is pretty powerful in enterprise servers because of this same reason: you can have a very stable, high performance OS with little resources consumption; image the same for a game platform.

I can see this game being the new Crysis (as in bringing all but the most hardcore gaming rigs to their knees). I think this game is a must buy for me on PC (Y). While I appreciate realism I hope this game is not unplayable on a keyboard though? I know the hardcore racing fans will cringe at the thought of playing a game like that with a keyboard, but as long as it's an option everyone should be happy right? I'm a fan of all types of racing games, from Forza/GT (play Forza controller only and GT a mixture of wheel or controller...I only have a basic PS wheel but it does the job well enough) all the way down to NFS. I'm not a hardcore racing fan, but I love cars and car racing games. I shouldn't be denied the pleasure of games like this just because I don't have a steering wheel rig setup for it. My 2 cents anyway.

Hello

Too much focus on graphics in the genre nowadays.

Exactly.

My thoughts on this is: Who cares? They can make it as pretty as they want and as beautiful and power sucking as technologically possible but how about actual gameplay? As in driving?

Take this for example: You see a awesome car (Im not a exotic car fan so I wont name anything just to look stupid :p ) and its beautiful and you know its fast but you cant drive it because you dont know how to drive that car to its full potential (not only that, but taking in account laws and other things).

My point is I perfer this game to look like 1999 called and to have great controls and gameplay :)

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I do hope that its the complete package to rival GT/Forza with a further flourish of what makes PC the ultimate platform, options!!

Lots of tweaks to races and setups and the ability to edit layouts etc.

Custom liveries via upload and importing of images etc (I want to be able to photoshop me up a logo and use it on cars in game etc).

Regular updates via DLC such as cars/tracks and/or community steam workshop etc.

With a range thats casual controller racer to full wheel, stick, pedals and clutch sim racer.

I know that`s maybe asking the impossible, but im so desperate for something that isn`t a console racer or some dated ultra sim right now its not funny!!

Take this for example: You see a awesome car (Im not a exotic car fan so I wont name anything just to look stupid :p ) and its beautiful and you know its fast but you cant drive it because you dont know how to drive that car to its full potential (not only that, but taking in account laws and other things).

Few games you can get to this at moment. Forza with ALL the aids turned off and in an R1 or X setup car and its deffo a bit of steppe learning curve, if you dont plan on spinning the tyres lots.

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I finally managed to get my Logitech G25 to calibrate correctly for this!

 

Played it for a bit yesterday and at times it tricked me into thinking i was getting the hang of it and then the next race it punishes me.

Still when you hook a good lap together it feels good.

 

I still think the wheel needs tweaking though as i find some cars impossible to drive. Formula A for instance is an absolute nightmare. Even being light on the throttle the car wants to change ends.

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Sorry if this has already been posted but take quotes from Senna and Hunt, F1 cars in different weather conditions and rounded off with a nice bit of Zimmer, it all comes together to make a very good trailer. Turn 10 need to watch out because if this is anywhere near what its believed to be it is going to blow everything out of the water.

 

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