trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I want to install Red Hat 9, and I want to partition Windows at the end, so that I can download all the RH ISOs, and later on, delete Windows, so that I can utilise the space. Is this possible? I have no CD burner etc... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStaticVoid Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 Maybe I am misunderstanding your problem, but even if you download the ISOs, how would you use them. You have to boot from the burned ISO image, but you have no CD burner. It sounds to me like you'll have to buy the CDs. I recommend http://www.edmunds-enterprises.com/linux/index.php. I bought Gentoo 1.4 i686 from them as it the cheapest store around. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 I am doing a HDD install, so I do not need to burn the isos. I am using Windows now just to download the isos for a HDD install. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 Heres what I want. I have a 20GB Hdd. Windows goes right to the end, from 15-20GB. Then, I install Linux on the unpartitioned space, from 1-14.99GB of the HDD. All my RH9 ISOs reside on my Windows partition, so that i can install from there. Then after installation, I use parted etc to delete my Windows partition, and use the rest for Linux. My question: How do I get Windows to install right at the end? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
seethru Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 uhm.......ok but how do you intend on using the isos to install them? If my memory serves me right last time I tried to read a linux cd (iso) in windows it didn't work out too well lol......so without a cd burner how do you intend to install linux? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HPMCommander Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 are you asking to install windows at the end of your hard drive so that you can just remove it after you're done installing redhat? if so, you don't necessarily have to put it at the end. you can use a program like partitionmanager to delete the windows partition and then resize the linux one to utilize the unused space. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostspyder Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 a) i dont think partiton magic can resize linuxtype filestructures b) windows has to 'have' the first partition on the disk because it needs to keep boot info there. So the best thing would be to just have two partitions, and use one for you home directory, that way when and if you ever switch distros or reinstall you dont loose all your data. Make shure to copy all the home info onto the partition before you mount it because most distros keep all kindsa configs etc in there. Or head over to newegg.com every night at about 8pm and check there referbished items for a cheap cd burner, ive seen em low as 20$ refurb. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 seethru said: uhm.......ok but how do you intend on using the isos to install them? If my memory serves me right last time I tried to read a linux cd (iso) in windows it didn't work out too well lol......so without a cd burner how do you intend to install linux? RH9 installer supports HDD install, you just need to tell them where the ISOs are located. HPMCommander, it seems that Linux will only utilise space in front of it, eg Linux is on 15-18GB, and Windows on 0-15GB. When you free up WIndows partition and give linux 18-20GB, Linux will only utilise 15-20GB, it will NOT utilise space 'behind'. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStaticVoid Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 I don't want to speak for you, trenzterra, but if he doesn't have a CD burner, what makes you all think he paid for PartitionMagic? GNU Parted only allows resizing of a Linux-type partition if its start position remains fixed, so trenzterra is correct in wanting to install Linux at the beginning of the hard drive. However, I've never heard of an HDD install. I have heard of a network install, though. I am interested in it. Can you tell me more please? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 Mr. Static Void said: I don't want to speak for you, trenzterra, but if he doesn't have a CD burner, what makes you all think he paid for PartitionMagic? GNU Parted only allows resizing of a Linux-type partition if its start position remains fixed, so trenzterra is correct in wanting to install Linux at the beginning of the hard drive. However, I've never heard of an HDD install. I have heard of a network install, though. I am interested in it. Can you tell me more please? HDD Install works the same way as CD install, you download the ISOs and RH will read it from there... I need help with network install too, can't figure out using PPPoE. If you can help me check my other thread. I don't have Partition Magic too. Or is this possible, I create a Linux partition, then create a Windows partition. Then I delete the Linux partition. This way, will Windows install at the end? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Veteran Posted October 25, 2003 Veteran Share Posted October 25, 2003 lostspyder said: b) windows has to 'have' the first partition on the disk because it needs to keep boot info there. windows (at least NT) needs to have the boot files (NTLDR, boot.ini, ntdetect.com) on the first partition. windows can be installed on any partition you want. what i'm saying is, you can have a small partition (few MB) at the beginning of your drive, then linux partitions, then windows. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 gameguy said: windows (at least NT) needs to have the boot files (NTLDR, boot.ini, ntdetect.com) on the first partition. windows can be installed on any partition you want. what i'm saying is, you can have a small partition (few MB) at the beginning of your drive, then linux partitions, then windows. How do you move the boot files there? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostspyder Posted October 25, 2003 Share Posted October 25, 2003 " How do you move the boot files there?" you dont. :) At least ive never been able to figgure it out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 ok then, can anyone figure out my thread on PPPoE anyway? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenzterra Posted October 25, 2003 Author Share Posted October 25, 2003 Hi, I was wondering whether this would work: First, I found a utility that's very flexible in partitioning. I put my ISOs on a seperate partition at the second last part of the HDD. Then I put Windows XP at the last part of the HDD. Eg: Linux - 1-5GB ISOs - 6-7.5GB Windows XP-7.5GB-18.6GB Is that possible? Then I would use LiLo to set up multiboot... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1294740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortis Posted October 26, 2003 Share Posted October 26, 2003 everyone seems to have made it so copmlicated. make a backup of whatever u DONT wanna loose. install windows again.. - when it askes for partition and stuff make 1 partition which is 15g, then make another which is 5 gig.. then go back and delete the 15 gig.. this will make ur partition for u, in ur desired location.. install or reinstall windows onto ur new partition.. then go back - and install linux.. as long u create the windows on a vfat (fat32) fs then u'll be be able to useitilse that space with no problem. when u install linux - it will create an automatic chainloader to boot windows with no problem. this is the basic way if u dont have partition magic or anything if u do then like the rest said above resize and move ur windows partition to the end of ur system.. then delete the rest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/110538-partitioning-windows-at-the-end/#findComment-1298611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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