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Not that either. I'm just looking for the old list view where things were sorted by album and "grouped" with cover art. I've got it sorted by album right now, but I haven't found any option to put the cover art back.

Thanks though. :)

Not that either. I'm just looking for the old list view where things were sorted by album and "grouped" with cover art. I've got it sorted by album right now, but I haven't found any option to put the cover art back.

Thanks though. :)

Oh, the album artwork well, Apple removed that but strangely left the text code in the plist.

Oh, the album artwork well, Apple removed that but strangely left the text code in the plist.

Hmm, yeah. I suppose I'll have to spend eternity trying to make Foobar into what I want instead, since I don't use any functionality of iTunes apart from listening to music.

Hmm, yeah. I suppose I'll have to spend eternity trying to make Foobar into what I want instead, since I don't use any functionality of iTunes apart from listening to music.

You're not the only one disappointed by it's removal, i used it to make sure all my songs had it's album covers pasted in.

Hmm, yeah. I suppose I'll have to spend eternity trying to make Foobar into what I want instead, since I don't use any functionality of iTunes apart from listening to music.

getting that view in foobar takes about as long as the install does withuout album art in the list view, and 5 min more with album art since you need panel or collumn view addon for the album art in the list I think

Not that either. I'm just looking for the old list view where things were sorted by album and "grouped" with cover art. I've got it sorted by album right now, but I haven't found any option to put the cover art back.

Thanks though. :)

Doesn't the Artist (and Generes) view sort of do that? I might be misunderstanding as I never ever used that view in 10.x.

getting that view in foobar takes about as long as the install does withuout album art in the list view, and 5 min more with album art since you need panel or collumn view addon for the album art in the list I think

Cool. I've never customized it before. But I'll give that a try, ta. :)

Doesn't the Artist (and Generes) view sort of do that? I might be misunderstanding as I never ever used that view in 10.x.

Yeah but in 10.x the albums were kind of grouped with the cover art showing on the left, and hence making it very easy to distinguish between different albums. As it is right now, it's like finding one word in the middle of a wall of a thousand words. It was perfect before. :(

Dude seriously, if you're trying to look smart here let me be the first one to break the news: You don't.

Everything points to iTunes 11 being iTunes 10 with an updated interface. From the Preferences window still being non-standard to all the resources being packed in iTunes.rsrc.

You mad, bro? I'm not trying to be smart. You don't have to be such an ass hole just because someone's wrong. Geez. It's a program cool your ######. If your so smart, why didn't you kindly enlighten me and educate me? I'm not a programmer and never claimed to be.

You mad, bro? I'm not trying to be smart. You don't have to be such an ass hole just because someone's wrong. Geez. It's a program cool your ######. If your so smart, why didn't you kindly enlighten me and educate me? I'm not a programmer and never claimed to be.

You're seriously going to pretend the "Did you look through every line of code?" part wasn't a smartass remark and act all offended when someone calls you on it? Come on... :laugh:

Anyone else not really liking the new icon? I don't really like it for some reason.

I do find it curious they went back to the whole 2001 Aqua blob thing to be honest. It doesn't really seem to fit either OS X (hasn't for years) nor iTunes. :/ If you can find the original iTunes 10 icon it should be easy enough to replace the new with the old though.

You're seriously going to pretend the "Did you look through every line of code?" remark wasn't a smartass response and act all offended when someone calls you on it? Please...

Yes that was a smartass response, however it's certainly very clear Apple made many improvements over iTunes 10. They delayed it because they had to rewrite some parts: http://www.imore.com/itunes-11-launching-week-was-delayed-due-engineering-issues

I'm sure we'll see your preferance pane fixed in in iTunes 11.1 or similar.

Yes that was a smartass response, however it's certainly very clear Apple made many improvements over iTunes 10. They delayed it because they had to rewrite some parts: http://www.imore.com...ineering-issues

I'm sure we'll see your preferance pane fixed in in iTunes 11.1 or similar.

I never claimed Apple didn't made improvements. I'm just saying iTunes is still a Cocoa-Carbon hybrid like it was before, which clearly shows in certain areas. With the interface supposedly being "rewritten/redesigned" many were hoping the company would finally take things all the way, which hasn't happened.

The Preferences window, basically a relic of iTunes' Mac OS 9 past, hasn't been fixed in 11 years. I don't have much hope we'll see it addressed anytime soon either.

Yeah, of course all device makes should make their own network handshaking protocols instead of just using the standard one, that'll be awesome, especially if they're all as chatty as bonjour.

Yes it would make sense. It's called standardization, and if they must have bonjour, implement it as a network service in the network stack, not as a process.

You would rather it be somewhere more difficult to turn off? It's a service. Very trivial to keep it from running if it bothers you.

If it was in the network stack it wouldn't need to be turned off, since it would operate at a or efficient level and wouldn't run all the time like regular service. And it should of course be optional in the advanced install.

Besides, they shouldn't use bonjour in the first place, they should just use net bios like all the devices they connect to.

I don't really get why Apple switched to Helvetica for much of the interface. It clashes like crazy with the rest of the OS. I have no issues with the use of drop shadows here. Personally I think it's insane Microsoft got rid of them in Windows 8, especially underneath windows. It makes the desktop way too flat and windows hard to distinguish.

It's kinda funny though how both companies are on two opposite sides of the spectrum though. Apple went overboard with their skeuomorphic design, Microsoft went overboard with removing much of it.

I don't really get why Apple switched to Helvetica for much of the interface. It clashes like crazy with the rest of the OS. I have no issues with the use of drop shadows here. Personally I think it's insane Microsoft got rid of them in Windows 8, especially underneath windows. It makes the desktop way too flat and windows hard to distinguish.

I don't think it's Helvetica in Windows or do you mean OS X?

Also there are actually drop shadows in Windows 8, but there are ridiculous minimal. I don't have Windows, but the lack of any really noticable shadow seems like a real step backwards. Though is there no theme mods to fix it yet? I'd imagine it's not that difficult to fix.

There's something that's bugging me with the app store section in 11. It only seems to show the previous version info for an app. Take Angry Birds Seasons for example. It just updated to 3.1.0 but on the app page it shows 3.0.0 (and earlier). Usually when there's an app update I like to know what has changed before committing to it. Now I have to fire it up in a web browser to see the info for the current version.

I don't think it's Helvetica in Windows or do you mean OS X?

OS X.

Also there are actually drop shadows in Windows 8, but there are ridiculous minimal. I don't have Windows, but the lack of any really noticable shadow seems like a real step backwards. Though is there no theme mods to fix it yet? I'd imagine it's not that difficult to fix.

In Windows 8 inactive windows don't appear to have a drop shadow at all. But you're right active ones have a very faint drop shadow.

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