New PS3 Slim announced

[+Warwagon MVC]

Yes but will it blend?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

the issue tho is it is the same inside as what your current PS3 has so the only change is the size of the system nothing more

Yeah I'm not getting it, more than happy with my fat slim.

[notuptome2004]

the way i see it is that since the Wii U is right around the corner on the 18th of November it is a wast of time to buy a new current gen system and i havea feeling there will be kids who want a PS3 for christmas un awar of the Wii U and or maby there parents will just buy the new PS3 thinking what is the differance it is the same price or about or they will buy the new PS3 thinking it is all new inside as well because there kids siad ( oh mom dad the new playsation is out i got to have it )

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

the way i see it is that since the Wii U is right around the corner on the 18th of November it is a wast of time to buy a new current gen system and i havea feeling there will be kids who want a PS3 for christmas un awar of the Wii U and or maby there parents will just buy the new PS3 thinking what is the differance it is the same price or about or they will buy the new PS3 thinking it is all new inside as well because there kids siad ( oh mom dad the new playsation is out i got to have it )

So if you haven't played any of the say, 30-40+ TOP games of this generation by now they should just be ignored?

Doesn't everyone remember how little a library a new system has?

Hard drive bay:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df...-playstation-3

[TheLegendOfMart]

I don't think the 12Gb version supports an internal HDD, there is a post on NeoGAF with a 250Gb External drive that will only work on 12Gb version.

I'm glad I didn't blindly buy one, I was going to replace my slim and drop my HDD in it if the 12Gb version was cheap enough.

the way i see it is that since the Wii U is right around the corner on the 18th of November it is a wast of time to buy a new current gen system and i havea feeling there will be kids who want a PS3 for christmas un awar of the Wii U and or maby there parents will just buy the new PS3 thinking what is the differance it is the same price or about or they will buy the new PS3 thinking it is all new inside as well because there kids siad ( oh mom dad the new playsation is out i got to have it )

It is clearly marked PLAYSTATION 3, if they go out and buy it thinking its the next gen console they deserve to lose their money.

[0nyX]

milk it

[TheLegendOfMart]

Milk what?

Its common in electronics world to take something, make it cheaper to produce, smaller, quieter, use less power....

Works out well for those that wait to buy something this late in the game, they get the "best" version of the console with a massive back catalogue of cheap games.

[notuptome2004]

So if you haven't played any of the say, 30-40+ TOP games of this generation by now they should just be ignored?

Doesn't everyone remember how little a library a new system has?

no they should not be ignored but the fact for the cost or a feww bucks more you geta next gen system that will have some of the same titels on it but better version of them . all the current new games coming out will be on the Wii U at launch or int e launch window ther is 50 games to be released in the launch window that is from November 18th to March .

Why pay for 7 year old console at this point in time chances are we or anyone wanting one has played most of those titles at friends house all i can say agian or so is i think it is a wast of money at that price

Wii-U lasting 7 years or more or i assume getting the latest games with higher quality version more features and getting more sequals or 1st hand orginal games because the hardware does more to what developer wants

Or

Ps3 aging console running out of leg room matter fact now down to the last toe to stand on and Developers really have pushed it to the end that it can do. it wont get ACS 4 i would imagine it wont get the next Bioshock game after the current one coming out it wont get the next need for speed after what ever new one comes out in the next half year i think ya get the idea

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

no they should not be ignored but the fact for the cost or a feww bucks more you geta next gen system that will have some of the same titels on it but better version of them . all the current new games coming out will be on the Wii U at launch or int e launch window ther is 50 games to be released in the launch window that is from November 18th to March .

Why pay for 7 year old console at this point in time chances are we or anyone wanting one has played most of those titles at friends house all i can say agian or so is i think it is a wast of money at that price

Wii-U lasting 7 years or more or i assume getting the latest games with higher quality version more features and getting more sequals or 1st hand orginal games because the hardware does more to what developer wants

Or

Ps3 aging console running out of leg room matter fact now down to the last toe to stand on and Developers really have pushed it to the end that it can do. it wont get ACS 4 i would imagine it wont get the next Bioshock game after the current one coming out it wont get the next need for speed after what ever new one comes out in the next half year i think ya get the idea

Instead of arguing any more with you all I'll say is I think you'll get a surprise over the next year at how decently this sells compared to your thoughts of it being 'pointless' due to Wii-U.

[TheLegendOfMart]

So the Wii-U will have Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear, The Last of Us, Infamous, Killzone, Little Big xxxxx, Ratchet & Clank, etc.. etc..???

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I don't think the 12Gb version supports an internal HDD, there is a post on NeoGAF with a 250Gb External drive that will only work on 12Gb version.

I'm glad I didn't blindly buy one, I was going to replace my slim and drop my HDD in it if the 12Gb version was cheap enough.

It is clearly marked PLAYSTATION 3, if they go out and buy it thinking its the next gen console they deserve to lose their money.

Yes it does, the 12GB simply doesn't come with the hard drive bay (the bit you screw your hard drive into on current models). You need to buy a bay then slot it in. The bay may be the same one in the current PS3s, if not, Ebay one (no point in buying it from Sony, they're selling official ones, they'll overcharge).

[Blackhearted]

Milk what?

Its common in electronics world to take something, make it cheaper to produce, smaller, quieter, use less power....

Works out well for those that wait to buy something this late in the game, they get the "best" version of the console with a massive back catalogue of cheap games.

It's also common to make them cheaper to buy in the process too, but due to their(BOTH sony and microsoft's) desire to drag out this console gen far beyond its expiration date, that part of the plan has stagnated quite a bit.

[TheLegendOfMart]

I'm not defending them but maybe they want a little big of wiggle room cost vs profit wise so they can drop the price near PS4 launch?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I'm not defending them but maybe they want a little big of wiggle room cost vs profit wise so they can drop the price near PS4 launch?

From DF

Going forward, it's the ability to market the PS3 at a reduced price point that makes this model so important to Sony. At the moment, this 500GB SKU appears to be attracting a price just above a 320GB Slim bundled with a game or two. As things stand, unless we were really pressed for physical space, we'd take the hit on HDD space in exchange for the build quality and the freebie software of the older model. However, looking to the future, this new model forms the basis of Sony's ability to aggressively reduce RRPs to better take on the Xbox 360; if it genuinely cut prices and tossed in a three-month trial to PlayStation Plus, with its tremendous instant games collection, we'd have the makings of a truly competitive package.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-hands-on-with-the-new-playstation-3

[notuptome2004]

So the Wii-U will have Uncharted, Gran Turismo, Metal Gear, The Last of Us, Infamous, Killzone, Little Big xxxxx, Ratchet & Clank, etc.. etc..???

No but nore likely will we see mamny more version of those first party games on the PS3 maby 1 more but that is it cause even those developer prolly are wanting next gen system from sony that has not announced one yet .

[TheLegendOfMart]

So why would someone take a Wii U which will never get any of those games over the new super slim PS3 which is only slightly less powerful than the Wii U, ?70 cheaper and will get all of the multiplatform games that the Wii U will, not to mention PS+ and the free instant game collection.

It then gives them a year or so to save up ?350-450 for a true next gen console like PS4 or Next Xbox?

The only reason to go Wii U is for first party Nintendo games and they have been lacklustre of late, New Super Mario Bros Wii U is the same as NSMB Wii which was the same as NSMB DS. No 3D Mario, No 3D Zelda, No Mario Kart, etc..

If the next gen consoles are a significant leap ahead the Wii U is going to find itself in the same place the Wii has, it might get the odd 'version' of the latest titles but its not going to get the latest and greatest multiplatform games.

[Kreuger]

Why don't they take their time and make them this small from the start? Instead of rushing out the fat ones and later streamlining them.

[Lord Method Man]

Why don't they take their time and make them this small from the start? Instead of rushing out the fat ones and later streamlining them.

I know. And what was the deal with ENIAC? Why didn't they just take their time and make an ultrabook from the start?

[TheLegendOfMart]

Why don't they take their time and make them this small from the start? Instead of rushing out the fat ones and later streamlining them.

It doesn't work like that, you use the tech that's available at the time....

New processes become available, the CELL cpu that powers the PS3 for example started as a 90nm part.

The next revision was on a 65nm process which allowed the console to run cooler and use less power, the next was 45nm die shrink which enabled them to create the PS3 Slim, smaller chips means smaller console.

There are no numbers confirmed but the new slim PS3 CPU could be on 32nm process which allowed them to shrink the console even more.

They didn't intentionally make it big just so they can bring out smaller ones in the future, they were in a race against Microsoft to bring out the next generation of console first so they were limited by how much time they could put into it, but realistically the manufacturing tech that was available at the time I don't see it being much smaller.

[notuptome2004]

So why would someone take a Wii U which will never get any of those games over the new super slim PS3 which is only slightly less powerful than the Wii U, ?70 cheaper and will get all of the multiplatform games that the Wii U will, not to mention PS+ and the free instant game collection.

It then gives them a year or so to save up ?350-450 for a true next gen console like PS4 or Next Xbox?

The only reason to go Wii U is for first party Nintendo games and they have been lacklustre of late, New Super Mario Bros Wii U is the same as NSMB Wii which was the same as NSMB DS. No 3D Mario, No 3D Zelda, No Mario Kart, etc..

If the next gen consoles are a significant leap ahead the Wii U is going to find itself in the same place the Wii has, it might get the odd 'version' of the latest titles but its not going to get the latest and greatest multiplatform games.

the Wii U has 50 games for launch window first and many many 3rd party games as all developers are on board and have had nothing but praise the Wii U hardware and the power it has over the current system . and even if the next gen sony and MS consolkes come out with let say DX11 quality graphics and slightly more Vram or somthing and the same type of controils so what because the Wii U has enough more then enough innovation with the Wii U ggamepad they will still be able to produce a better version of the same game all while just giving sony and MS a slightly better looking game just nothing else more added

[moloko]

How can you not lower the price. I never bought one before but I would of if it hit 200$ for the system and a game. Throw 2 controllers in there now. I know Sony is having problems with loss of money..but now they will not get mine. Maybe christmas time will bring those price cuts.

Milk what?

Its common in electronics world to take something, make it cheaper to produce, smaller, quieter, use less power....

Works out well for those that wait to buy something this late in the game, they get the "best" version of the console with a massive back catalogue of cheap games.

Also to sell it cheaper.

Why don't they take their time and make them this small from the start? Instead of rushing out the fat ones and later streamlining them.

Again that not how it works. New processes and better hardware comes out. Can make changes farther down the line. You dont NEED to buy this if you already have one. It plays the same games but no backward capability. If anything it is smart by the company. Cheaper for them to make than the older ones. But still I see no need to RAISE the price.

[TheLegendOfMart]

the Wii U has 50 games for launch window first and many many 3rd party games as all developers are on board and have had nothing but praise the Wii U hardware and the power it has over the current system . and even if the next gen sony and MS consolkes come out with let say DX11 quality graphics and slightly more Vram or somthing and the same type of controils so what because the Wii U has enough more then enough innovation with the Wii U ggamepad they will still be able to produce a better version of the same game all while just giving sony and MS a slightly better looking game just nothing else more added

Noticed how big the 'launch window' is? 6 freaking months, that's a pretty big 'window'.

Developers are on board because the Wii U is a bit faster than the current generation of consoles which means its easier to port their CURRENT games to the system.

Slightly better looking game? Do you really think people are going to pay $400-500 for a next generation console if it is such a small leap like the Wii U is over current gen consoles. Like the Wii was the Wii U is going to be left in the dust and won't have the power to run the latest games, developers arent going to spend time and money making a special version of their game for the Wii U?

The motion controls, while innovative, didn't get the Wii any of this generations big AAA games, having a gimmicky tablet isn't going to be enough if the power/graphics quality are of a significant leap of the next generation.

[notuptome2004]

Noticed how big the 'launch window' is? 6 freaking months, that's a pretty big 'window'.

Developers are on board because the Wii U is a bit faster than the current generation of consoles which means its easier to port their CURRENT games to the system.

Slightly better looking game? Do you really think people are going to pay $400-500 for a next generation console if it is such a small leap like the Wii U is over current gen consoles. Like the Wii was the Wii U is going to be left in the dust and won't have the power to run the latest games, developers arent going to spend time and money making a special version of their game for the Wii U?

The motion controls, while innovative, didn't get the Wii any of this generations big AAA games, having a gimmicky tablet isn't going to be enough if the power/graphics quality are of a significant leap of the next generation.

A Bit faster Try alot faster there is a huge differences between a Power 4/5 CPU in the 360 and a Power 7 CPu in the Wii U and a big difference between what could be considered an X1900 series card in the 360 and the 4870/90 in the Wii U

So i am sorry bot a Bit faster but a heck of a whole lot faster oh and the Wii U is $299 and $349 that well for storage you can connect 4x 3TB HDDs to to expand the storage if you wish so dont know where ya got $400 -$500 shows what you know

The Wii U Gamepad is not a Tablet and while it can do some things a Tablet could do or does it is tied to the Wii U console itself as the Wii u GP does not have its own processing power and or graphics power everything is rendered by the Wii U console both the GP and console render on the big screen and small screen @ 60FPS as developer have siad or there abouts the current consoles could not do a darn thing close to near what the Wii U does Wii U streams or can stream 2 of the same feeds to the GP or 2 entirely separate things interdependently

While your playing a game on the big screen with the Wii U pro controller someone can be watching netlflix on the GP or surfing the web or playing a Virtual console game or something all of this requires allot of power

[vincent]

*Fires up his Dreamcast*

[Southern Patriot]

It was on the main front page article 17 hours ago!

http://www.neowin.ne...ion-3-announced

Considering how fast stuff gets pushed off of the front page, some days you could miss something after an hour or two!