subscribers Neowin's 'Club Orange' - a dying breed?

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

Bit hypocritical isn't?

No. I'd prefer you not to label me a hypocrite without knowing the back story, which you never will.

[firey]

Considered it, but aside from removal of ads, which don't bother me, as 99% of sites have ads.. I see no point. They get money via ads, granted it's not a tonne.. but it's some.. I don't gain anything, I am just out of pocket the price of the sub.

I am a very selfish person, I do things if they will benefit me in a large way, subbing is not one of those things.

[Jason S. Global Moderator]

i like helping out - and i like the secret forum :shifty:

[TheGhostWalker]

why cant you with paypal

paypal is the option it gives me

Because I don't have a paypal account, I only have axx to the visa of a friend and he doesn't want to use his paypal for this -.-

[+Majesticmerc MVC]

No. I'd prefer you not to label me a hypocrite without knowing the back story, which you never will.

I think he was referring to the fact that you've not renewed your sub, but you're still using the badge.

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

I think he was referring to the fact that you've not renewed your sub, but you're still using the badge.

Hm? I had long regen-ed the Neowin badge. Fixed by uploading the image to imgur.

[Dan~]

I've given up on Neowin recently, got a bit out of hand in the fact that your no longer allowed ot state your opinion anymore without getting a warning it seems.

I've been a subscriber for a few years but I don't get anything back for me helping, there isn't really much they can give me either. "so for that reason I'm out"

[_neutrino Veteran]

To be honest i do not buy a subscription for the lack of ads i do it to support the site.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

I've given up on Neowin recently, got a bit out of hand in the fact that your no longer allowed ot state your opinion anymore without getting a warning it seems.

I've been a subscriber for a few years but I don't get anything back for me helping, there isn't really much they can give me either. "so for that reason I'm out"

You're allowed to state your opinion as long as it's within the rules. And the benefits of subscribing are the perks and supporting the site. Anyway, feel free to PM me if you want to get anything off your chest regarding Neowin.

[Dan~]

Well I use to think I was supporting it, but if everyone stopped Neowin will still function exactly the same, this is prooved by the amount of free subscriber 1 & 2's given out willy nilly.

[ahhell]

2 reasons:

Completely biased moderation in threads

Ridiculous garbage articles on the front page (usually written by one person in particular)

:crazy:

[Glassed Silver]

As a Linux user, I often feel like kind of an outcast. It's not the fault of anybody running the site, the fact is that this is a site that is focused largely around Microsoft and its products, and I'm not one of those guys who thinks Bill Gates is the anti-christ and that Microsoft is destroying the world, but I tend to swing by here once and a while to post about a gun of mine or to see if DocM has posted anything about his guns, and then I move on to other forums with information that is more relevant to my OS of choice.

I can relate to that a lot.

I'm really not sure whether I'll resubscribe to Neowin again next time around.

It's some issues I have with how some of my concerned are viewed from staff side.

It's mostly the difference in moderation forums vs. FPN and foremost the front page articles that get degraded in quality a lot over time.

It's also annoying the hell out of me what some members on here are like personality-wise.

That's something that Neowin itself cannot fix, of course, but surely it makes this site less and less attractive.

I've found many cool people on here, for example remixedcat and a LOT of others, but I don't want to do too much namedropping, because the more names I mention, the easier I step on someone's shoes for leaving them out of a list that could go on and on and on and... you get the point. :)

It's just that many on here seem to have absolutely lost all their manners and respect for others, their choices and/or way of thinking about things.

Now, you see I'm not the biggest Windows 8 fan *cough* not at all *cough*, but I won't go around and tell people to fit their way of thinking around something they don't like.

I just see so much hate going on here... This happened in a very short time, like 1.5-2 years ago we were all mostly rather calm around here, at least on the technology topics etc...

Now, even the front page articles are flamebait par excellence.

I just don't get it, well... I do, and I don't like the reasons and the statements I hear why those articles are "right".

I don't like the atmosphere on here as of late.

Basically I still come here for some members, some help (bidirectional) and some topics that mostly seem "safe".

More often than earlier I see myself unsubscribing from threads, because I know that what's going to be posted will just drive me nuts, so I don't bother with some threads that are actually about interesting topics.

*sigh*

Sorry for the mega rant, at least that's the topic of this thread so I guess I'm excused. :p

Glassed Silver:mac

[Shaun N.]

I've given up on Neowin recently, got a bit out of hand in the fact that your no longer allowed ot state your opinion anymore without getting a warning it seems.

I've been a subscriber for a few years but I don't get anything back for me helping, there isn't really much they can give me either. "so for that reason I'm out"

Reported for a bad attitude! :)

2 reasons:

Completely biased moderation in threads

Ridiculous garbage articles on the front page (usually written by one person in particular)

:crazy:

Damn skippy!

Glassed Silver:mac

I still love you!

[Guest]

Lack of cash + lack of incentive.

[Rappy Veteran]

I don't see a lack of Subs?

[Glassed Silver]

I don't see a lack of Subs?

I guess the feeling comes from many subscribers unsubscribing who posted very frequently and / or still do.

Example: I probably noticed Phouchg's loss of subscriber status on day one.

Now, witness this kind of thing a couple of times within a short timespan and you're starting to wonder.

Maybe it's not so much about how many, but WHO is unsubscribing.

Not saying anyone's "worth more", but I definitely think that when a very very active and enthusiastic member decides to "drop support" it much more "worrying" or "interesting" than an average member who just found out that the use he or she gets out of a subscription doesn't cut it.

Usually, dedicated members, I would believe at least, will unsubscribe over disagreement rather than lack of will to support, something that's often their incentive to subscribe in the first place.

All this combined with the (maybe acted?) lack of concern over some things that go wrong around here by some staff people actually boosts my impression this site is not heading where I think it should, hence I'm pondering whether to renew my subscription or not.

Glassed Silver:mac

[Rappy Veteran]

I guess the feeling comes from many subscribers unsubscribing who posted very frequently and / or still do.

Example: I probably noticed Phouchg's loss of subscriber status on day one.

Now, witness this kind of thing a couple of times within a short timespan and you're starting to wonder.

Maybe it's not so much about how many, but WHO is unsubscribing.

Not saying anyone's "worth more", but I definitely think that when a very very active and enthusiastic member decides to "drop support" it much more "worrying" or "interesting" than an average member who just found out that the use he or she gets out of a subscription doesn't cut it.

Usually, dedicated members, I would believe at least, will unsubscribe over disagreement rather than lack of will to support, something that's often their incentive to subscribe in the first place.

All this combined with the (maybe acted?) lack of concern over some things that go wrong around here by some staff people actually boosts my impression this site is not heading where I think it should, hence I'm pondering whether to renew my subscription or not.

Glassed Silver:mac

suppose your right, I do notice some names who aren't subs anymore but I just assumed they can't afford it or moved on to another site

*shrugs*

[THolman Veteran]

I won my orange badge through a competition run on the site :). I don't know if I'd renew it because I don't see any advantages other than the orange badge! Perhaps if our feedback was actively encouraged and used to influence future news articles and site direction it would be more worthwhile.

We would actually really appreciate your feedback, sub or not! Obviously the writers (and Neobond!) all have to determine the direction of our news for ourselves, but you'd be surprised about how much we take it into account.

[bjoswald]

Not worth the investment. Money is tight right now and I can remove ads by other means.

[Lingwo]

I won mine last year in a competition and renewed it this year by paying for it.

I don't really use any of the features but i feel i suck up a lot of bandwidth on this site over the years, so the least i can do is pay a little bit per year as repayment :laugh:

I don't really see a reason while i'll unsubscribe. I'm not bothered about the politics on this site like some people. I come here to have discussions that relate to my interests.

I've been here for a number of years now and i don't think i've ever had a warning or even had a disagreement with any member.

For other people unscubscribing. I'd think it is either lack of spare money to pay for a subscription or the lack of incentive to subscribe. Removing ads to some people is a big thing but personally so long as the ads aren't intrusive, i don't mind them. Neowins thankfully not intrusive.

I did get banned once when i reported a spammer. The mod accidently banned my account instead :laugh:

[what]

There are too many trolls here. I'd rather keep my money for something more enjoyable.

[Anibal P]

I would subscribe, but being unemployed, the funds are lacking ATM

[Noir Angel]

I generally like this forum but I personally am not going to subscribe until something is done by the staff to actively put a stop to the constant trolling that goes on in threads about Google products. This is a pretty hostile forum to people that use Google products.

[Lexcyn]

There are too many fan-boys on this site who constantly troll the competition's subforums, etc, which is why I stopped subscribing.

[Draconian Guppy]

Stopped cause I don't find any use for it, besides "the" forum, so meh...