1TB SSDs?

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Where are the 1TB SSDs. In the UK you can now pick up a decent 512GB SSD for around ?300-?350, so I would have thought that 1TB SSDs would have started to become more common...

But besides the OCZ Octane (at circa ?2000) and Kingmax (apparently sub ?1000 in Japan but not available in the UK), there doesn't seem to be any...

Any ideas as to why this might be?

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Its likely because 1000GB of solid state memory in a 2.5" form is hard to achieve reliability with current technology...

you would essentially have to half the size of all your components to double the storage, so you would need to print the chips twice as fine as currently printed. This technology exists but the ROI isn't as great as doing a ton of smaller, cheaper, higher profit margin reliable drives. Obviously if something is half the size its twice as fragile, and with electronics its likely to have heat dissipation issues.

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If you really do want a 1GB SSD, they are available from Newegg.

One reason for the cost is probably due to the low demand for the storage amount, once demand gets higher, the manufacturing process gets more streamlined and the technology evolves more then the price per GB will decrease.

$2700US?!?! 2 x 512GB it is then :rofl:

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Oppps forgot 1TB :). I've been waiting for larger storage capacities at a lower price for SSDs too. My guess is the price will be around $100 to $200 for 1TB SSD drives with hard drive disks being in capacities of 10TB to 50TB or possibly more by that time since we are already at 4TB or higher now. We might get lucky and the transfer speed may also double by then too.

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Are they reliable enough to be used as data storage, compared to traiditional hard disks?

For what I know, they used to have a very limited lifetime... not sure about now, thus the question.

I'm not sure they are there yet in a storage and archival sense, but they are fine for transient data. Either way, backups are always in order.

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Are they reliable enough to be used as data storage, compared to traiditional hard disks?

For what I know, they used to have a very limited lifetime... not sure about now, thus the question.

Unless you need and know why you need to use them as a storage, the chances are you don't.

As for reliability, unless you're writing across the drive continually current spec SSD drives have a very good life.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-vertex-4-sata-iii-2-5-ssd.html offers 2 million hours run time before it fails.

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$2700US?!?! 2 x 512GB it is then :rofl:

Well - that was kind of my point. I'd understand if they carried a 10% premium over 2x512GB, but 400% is a little too much for my liking.

Unless you need and know why you need to use them as a storage, the chances are you don't.

As for reliability, unless you're writing across the drive continually current spec SSD drives have a very good life.

http://www.ocztechno...ii-2-5-ssd.html offers 2 million hours run time before it fails.

2 million hours mean time before failure - this is a marketing expression and a meaningless number. I can guarantee you, OCZ have not had one of these running for 2 million hours (as it's 228 years)

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Yeah I'm also kinda shocked no one has made some sort of adaptor that fits two drives.

These do exist...

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/icy-box-ib-rd2121sts-2x-25-sata-hdd-ssd-raid-converter

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Where are the 1TB SSDs. In the UK you can now pick up a decent 512GB SSD for around ?300-?350, so I would have thought that 1TB SSDs would have started to become more common...

But besides the OCZ Octane (at circa ?2000) and Kingmax (apparently sub ?1000 in Japan but not available in the UK), there doesn't seem to be any...

Any ideas as to why this might be?

Take a read of this to explain the current absense (mostly) of 1TB SSD's:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6200/owc-mercury-electra-3g-max-960gb-review-cramming-1tb-of-nand-inside-25-chassis

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I'm guessing the reason for that is that the form factor is universal, it can be used in laptops and desktops, I agree with you though. However the gist I get from that article is that they're currently limited by what the controllers can handle more than anything else, but by this time next year it sounds as if there will be more 1TB drives.

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