Do I really need to buy a commercial security tool? or free ones do the sam


Recommended Posts

I am not digging, just stating you aren't as smart as you think you are or really that impressive for me to go out of my way to screw with you and you really have that tin foil hat on real tight.

Quit being an *******. You have 0 idea of the ****ing hell I have been through this last year due to companies not securing their **** properly.

When you've worked on a network with over 4,000,000 concurrent users...come back to me and then start talking ****.

In fact with that attitude I'm wondering how you got an MVC badge...oh well doesn't matter...another post of this variety and I'll just kick you on the ignore list...it's getting full quick. :p

I am not digging, just stating you aren't as smart as you think you are or really that impressive for me to go out of my way to screw with you and you really have that tin foil hat on real tight.

never said I was or wasn't an expert in the subject matter, nor was anything really questioned for me to give a response to in said subject matter. I know where I am and what I do for a living and so do my employers.

Dude, if he doesn't want to tell, then he doesn't want to tell. No need to insult him; it's his business.

  • Like 2

Dude, if he doesn't want to tell, then he doesn't want to tell. No need to insult him; it's his business.

Thank You. That was my point...the fact that he's pressing so hard is a bit odd...but since I don't happen to own a tin-foil hat I'm pinning it more on him just being socially inept than actually being malicious.

Some people lol...they think they can bully info out of you by tossing out stuff anyone should know...and acting like an internet tough guy...

I have to admit today has been very amsuing. :D

Just so we're straight, I wasn't trying to bully, troll or act like a tough guy. You're just very mysterious about some things. Hey, it's entirely your right to be, I just don't see the need to post about it an draw attention to it if you, by your own admission, don't wish to talk about it.

Just so we're straight, I wasn't trying to bully, troll or act like a tough guy. You're just very mysterious about some things. Hey, it's entirely your right to be, I just don't see the need to post about it an draw attention to it if you, by your own admission, don't wish to talk about it.

I was referring to sc302. I originally just posted simply that I wouldn't discuss my setup for specific reasons.

Other folks are the ones who kept insisting on pushing it over and over again. :p

never said I was or wasn't an expert in the subject matter, nor was anything really questioned for me to give a response to in said subject matter. I know where I am and what I do for a living and so do my employers.

Well I am an SME on this subject. One of the first rules you're taught (if you're taught properly) is don't give out anything that isn't absolutely necessary. If there's not a practical need to share information on your setup...then avoid it at all costs.

I was referring to sc302. I originally just posted simply that I wouldn't discuss my setup for specific reasons.

Other folks are the ones who kept insisting on pushing it over and over again. :p

Well I am an SME on this subject. One of the first rules you're taught (if you're taught properly) is don't give out anything that isn't absolutely necessary. If there's not a practical need to share information on your setup...then avoid it at all costs.

First rule of Fight Club, we don't talk about Fight Club

or even mention it.

You mentioned that you don't give it out...you are the one who instigated a conversation on it. If you had said nothing at all, nothing would have been mentioned or commented about. You initiated a convo on being stupid, I finished it off with it having no merit to the conversation at hand and to the fact that not mentioning the marketed product you use has no bearing on security more than another product. If they are going to get in they will get in no matter what product you have in place, so you can be as secretive as you wish product has absolutely no bearing on security itself. But as a Security Expert, as you claim you are, would know this....and you would also know that security is a facade (if someone wants in bad enough they will get in, doesn't matter what you have protecting yourself).

You would be best off in that case to have a multilayered firewall, where you have a firewall on the perimeter of your network, possibly a dmz area behind that, followed by another firewall protecting your computers....possibly a third or a fourth....Perhaps layer it with different technologies, first perimerter cisco, second perimeter sonicwall, third TMG....just as an example....we can go into design as well as pitfals and configs to allow traffic to flow properly between networks in another topic (if you wanted to hit those devices on those other networks).

or even mention it.

You mentioned that you don't give it out...you are the one who instigated a conversation on it. If you had said nothing at all, nothing would have been mentioned or commented about.

Actually someone asked me about it...to which I replied that I don't give out any details.

No worries though...you made the ignore list...congrats.

Well I am an SME on this subject. One of the first rules you're taught (if you're taught properly) is don't give out anything that isn't absolutely necessary. If there's not a practical need to share information on your setup...then avoid it at all costs.

For a SME on this subject and highly protective of certain information, I find it somewhat ironic that you decided to use your own name as your username. :shiftyninja:

For a SME on this subject and highly protective of certain information, I find it somewhat ironic that you decided to use your own name as your username. :shiftyninja:

I'm highly protective of certain information due to the attacks...the people doing the attacks already have my name :p

In fact thanks to some companies being careless with data a lot of stuff about me has been 'doxed'.

I'm careful...not paranoid...there is a difference...plus that's an automatic when you link into the forums via Facebook as part of the initial sign-up on accounts. It also saves me time when people can just figure out if I'm actually me from my name...as opposed to having to figure out who I am from a handle. ;)

That comes in handy in specific cases.

The company i work for still insist of renewing our clients McAfee SaaS versions and AVG Business, i literally bite my tongue every time i have to update the software on client PC's.

Stick with MSE :)

The best av in the world is common sense...

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Price Drop: Save 86% on Microsoft Office 2021 Professional Plus lifetime digital license by Steven Parker Today's highlighted deal comes via our Apps + Software section of the Neowin Deals store, where you can save 86% on a lifetime license to Microsoft Office 2021 for Windows. This bundle is for families and small businesses who want classic Office apps and email. It includes Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, and OneNote. A one-time purchase installed on 1 Windows PC for use at home or work. Lifetime license for MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Teams, & OneNote One-time purchase installed on 1 Windows PC for use at home or work Instant Delivery & Download – access your software license keys and download links instantly Free customer service – only the best support! Microsoft Office Professional 2021 (for Windows) includes: Microsoft Office Word Microsoft Office Excel Microsoft Office PowerPoint Microsoft Office Outlook Microsoft Office Teams Microsoft Office OneNote Microsoft Office Publisher Microsoft Office Access No faffing about with subscriptions, just classic apps that don't expire. Good to Know ONE-TIME PURCHASE INSTALLED ON 1 DEVICE Redemption deadline: redeem your code within 30 days of purchase Access options: desktop Full versions No subscriptions – no monthly/annual fees Version: 2021 Updates included* *Support for this version of Office ends on Oct 13, 2026 A lifetime subscription to Microsoft Office 2021 Professional normally costs $219.99, but this deal can be yours for just $29.97, that's a saving of $190. For full terms, specifications, and license info, click the link below. Get Microsoft Office Professional 2021 for just $29.97, or learn more Although priced in U.S. dollars, this deal is available for digital purchase worldwide. Support queries If you have queries or need support for any of the Neowin Deals, please use the contact form here. Neowin Deals are managed and sold by StackCommerce who represent Neowin on an affiliate basis. Why we post these deals We post these because we earn commission on each sale so as not to rely solely on advertising, which many of our readers block. It all helps toward paying staff reporters, servers and hosting costs. So for those that keep moaning and complaining, be thankful we're still online for you to even do that. Other ways to support Neowin Whitelist Neowin by not blocking our ads Create a free member account to see fewer ads Make a donation to support our day to day running costs Subscribe to Neowin - for $14 a year, or $28 a year for an ad-free experience Disclosure: Neowin benefits from revenue of each sale made through our branded deals site powered by StackCommerce.
    • The only reason I want to know where you from is because if you are not from the U.K, then why should you care what we in the U.K do or don't do? Racist I am not, I am fed up with the amount coming over here and feel they can come over here and think we need to support them. Do you know how much it costs this country to support these people coming over here? Even when we give them a place to live it is not good enough. We had a barge that was being used to house immigrants, oh but that was not good enough. A mate said to me at the time, when he was homeless, he would have been happy to live on the barge, instead of ending up sleeping on a bench on the beach. I am not scared to say what my family heritage is, unlike you who is scared to say where they are from or where they live. Father side U.S, mother side Wales, still have family living in the U.S. A mate who sadly died a few years ago, had a load of people from different races recording in his studio, I got on with all of them. Skin colour don't bother me, where they are from don't bother me. Religion don't bother me as long as they don't push it onto me and it is not crazy stuff. I am not religious. But if you are not living in the U.K, then why should you care if we are in the E.U or not? This the problem, too many people poking their noses into where it don't belong. But you believe what you believe, if you think I am racist, then be it, I really do not care. Just grow a pair
    • If he hasn't been able to figure that out, then why is he obsessed with tariffs? Because that's one of the most prominent tools to level the playing field when you have high cost of labor.
    • Microsoft released Windows 11 KB5102558, KB5095615 Setup and Recovery updates by Sayan Sen This past week Microsoft released the newest preview update (C-release) under KB5095093. Alongside those, Microsoft also released new dynamic updates. For those who may not know, dynamic updates bring improvements to the Windows Recovery process in the form of Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) updates, which are also called Safe OS updates. The dynamic updates also affect the Setup file binaries in the form of Setup updates. These Dynamic Update packages are meant to be applied to existing Windows images prior to their deployment. Dynamic Updates also help preserve Language Pack (LP) and Features on Demand (FODs) content during the upgrade process. VBScript, for example, is currently an FOD on Windows 11 24H2. This time both recovery and setup updates were released for Windows 11. The company writes: "KB5095186: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, version 26H1: June 23, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.28000.2335. KB5102558: Setup Dynamic Update for Windows 11, versions 24H2 and 25H2: June 23, 2026 This update makes improvements to Windows setup binaries or any files that setup uses for feature updates in Windows 11, version 24H2 and Windows 11, version 25H2. KB5095615: Safe OS Dynamic Update for Windows 11, versions 24H2 and 25H2: June 23, 2026 This update makes improvements to the Windows recovery environment (WinRE). After installing this update, the WinRE version installed on the device should be 10.0.26100.8737." Microsoft notes that both the Recovery and Setup updates will be downloaded and installed automatically via the Windows Update channel.
  • Recent Achievements

    • Conversation Starter
      jessse3334 earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • Reacting Well
      JuvenileDelinquent earned a badge
      Reacting Well
    • One Month Later
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Excellence2025 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      508
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      200
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      151
    4. 4
      Steven P.
      73
    5. 5
      macoman
      62
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!