typu Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 *facepalm* this list is not sorted due to frequency. if it was, then lock/unlock would be first on it... but i would not be surprised if making phone calls is not the first priority on smartphones. Don't really care what phone anyone uses - it's a personal thing. But found it interesting that you buy a mobile phone and making calls is 4th on your list of things you do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'm sure that the CERN scientists are much better than you. How can you live with that, Joe? I bet you also don't care. :p They are indeed better in what they do, or at least let's hope so. But I also don't attempt to force my limited understanding in their field over their more developed understanding, nor do I attempt to force them to use bad technology because it is cheaper but popular. Which is what you are trying to do in your posts. I wouldn't mind scientists at CERN, however, forcing their knowledge upon the mainstream population, certainly over religious tardos. ;) Luis Mazza 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorbing Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Good for you. For your information, I work in mobile development, so I have access to these devices. I could care less what other websites, or you, the "actually USING" Joes, have to say. Why all the anger? Chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Mazza Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 They are indeed better in what they do, or at least let's hope so. But I also don't attempt to force my limited understanding in their field over their more developed understanding, nor do I attempt to force them to use bad technology because it is cheaper but popular. Which is what you are trying to do in your posts. I wouldn't mind scientists at CERN, however, forcing their knowledge upon the mainstream population, certainly over religious tardos. ;) We love the AMOLED screen! Live us ALONE!!! :cry: LOL :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Why all the anger? Chill out. No anger, just bored. And I have a strong dislike for mediocrity, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Observer Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Will you still say iOS is more polished when the time comes and it navigates you, say, into a forest instead of where you actually want to go? Dont have this issue with my iPhone, it this problem related to only people in the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Dont have this issue with my iPhone, it this problem related to only people in the USA? It is dependent on the quality of one's maps coverage. But a Maps app is hardly any actual indication on the OS quality. Just like the awful mspaint.exe is not an indication that Windows 7 is bad. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The Maps app has worked really well for me. I've only had one instance where it had a restaurant on the wrong side of the road. People can download the free Maps++ app if they want, which is literally Google Maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The Maps app has worked really well for me. I've only had one instance where it had a restaurant on the wrong side of the road. People can download the free Maps++ app if they want, which is literally Google Maps. Sadly, it is missing Google Street View. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Norwegian Drone Pilot Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I'm sure iOS have many good apps. But that's not changing the fact that iOS is really bad and is from the stone age now. Take a look at Android 1.5 and then look at Android 4.2. And then look at the first iPhone OS and then look at iOS 6. How many changes are there from the first iPhone OS to the current iOS 6? Yey, you can change wallapaper, weeeeee. That's revolutionary. Now, look at Android 1.5 and then look at Android 4.2. Now, tell me how many changes you see here compared to the changes in iOS? That list for Android is fking HUUUUUUUGE. On iOS however, i can count the visible changes in iOS 6 from the first iPhone OS on one hand. Oh also, the user experience on iOS suck donkey kong, i mean, it's seriously bad today. Those who wonder why i say this have NEVER tried the current iOS 6 and Android 4.1x / 4.2. iOS is light years behind Android in pretty much everything except for the AppStore. Peoples always talks about how Android is confusing to alot of peoples. Ehhhm lol, and you think a massive bunch og icons squeezed into some pages are any more user friendly to the users when they have to scroll pages after pages to find their apps to use? Take a look at my playlist here on YouTube to understand what i'm talking about: If there isn't going to be any BIG major changes in iOS 7, then i belive iOS will end up in the same way as Symbian. Yeah, iOS will die out slowly if it doesn't change dramaticly pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 So the operating system is years ahead because you can change gadgets. :laugh: You said it, the AppStore is unmatched. Rather, the quality of the apps on it is unmatched. That is what matters. The OS is there to service applications. If that changes in the future, the other platforms will be superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Not trolling or saying "<name> is wrong for using iphone" but iOS is far from "polished". Even after 5+ years different menus and options can look entirely different. It's far from consistent. (also i'm not inferring that any other OS is much better in this regard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Norwegian Drone Pilot Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 So the operating system is years ahead because you can change gadgets. :laugh: You said it, the AppStore is unmatched. Rather, the quality of the apps on it is unmatched. That is what matters. The OS is there to service applications. If that changes in the future, the other platforms will be superior. AppStore is better than Play Store, but that's just barely. The difference is so small that it almost doesn't matter anylonger. But still, AppStore have the little edge. But that alone isn't the factor that makes it better than Android. It's the whole package that counts. And Android wins here by a large margin. javagreen 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkit Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 AppStore is better than Play Store, but that's just barely. The difference is so small that it almost doesn't matter anylonger. But still, AppStore have the little edge. But that alone isn't the factor that makes it better than Android. It's the whole package that counts. And Android wins here by a large margin. And that is your opinion. It comes down to some people like things one way, others a different way. Otherwise we would only have 1 brand of everything. Only Pepsi, only Ford Focus cars, etc. If you don't like iOS that's fine, or if you don't like Android that's fine too. What makes you less of a person is when you start bashing other people for not liking or thinking the same way you do. Hawk999 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Norwegian Drone Pilot Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 And that is your opinion. It comes down to some people like things one way, others a different way. Otherwise we would only have 1 brand of everything. Only Pepsi, only Ford Focus cars, etc. If you don't like iOS that's fine, or if you don't like Android that's fine too. What makes you less of a person is when you start bashing other people for not liking or thinking the same way you do. If you take your time to look on the YouTube videos on my playlist as i posted longer up, then you WILL realize why i like Android better than iOS. And i'm not alone on saying this, and this is for sure. Android is more user friendly, more easier to use, lets you customize it the way you want it to be to let it be as effective as possible to you. Android adopts to you and not you that have to adopt to the OS. Android lets you decide over your device, witch is a huge advantage over the OS deciding for you. Why shouldn't this be better than iOS where you have zero possibilities? EDIT: And no, i didn't bash any peoples here. All i was bashing was iOS. Learn to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 All, Shut up and use what you like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMELTN Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Sadly, it is missing Google Street View. This is my question. How often, honestly, do people really use street view? ESPECIALLY when you are driving your freakin car? I mean seriously? If you are walking, I could see using street view, or if you are actually pre-planning your trip, I could see using it to see what the building looks like or something, but come on.... DRIVING? Astra.Xtreme 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Not when driving the car. But when you want to see how the street you want to get to looks like, or where exactly is what you are looking for, it is really good. Denis W. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 No, the screen isn't bad. It's a universal problem with that type of display. The S3 has a pentile display which is inferior to an RGB display in terms of quality, so that's what causes the pixelation. I don't think the Note 2 has a pentile display, so it may not have those problems. Yeah, ask 99% of the consumers, and they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between pentile vs. non. If you're going by pure specs, then yes. But, in everyday usage, most people wouldn't notice (or even care). IMO, the whole Galaxy lineup is massively overrated. The HTC One X series is overall better imo. Plus the recently released Droid DNA trumps the Note 2 in terms of certain specs. Either way, these comparisons are getting out of hand. There are so many fanboys on this forum, and it is so apparent who likes what platform. Basically, use what you like/what works for you, and stop trying to persuade other people that one platform is better than the other. Every platform has its advantages and disadvantages. Also, no one gives a flying **** what anyone else likes. For me, the iPhone is vastly outdated (has been for a long time), and just flat out doesn't offer the features that I need from a phone. javagreen 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Til I Die Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 I kept buying flagship Android devices and felt something was missing. Got an iPhone 5. Sure, it's missing lots of features that my Galaxy S3 (and indeed, S2) had, but it just works better. It's missing NFC, but NFC payments aren't supported in my country yet (there are NFC terminals but no apps that support the payments!) and I don't need to toggle settings using NFC tags because battery life is great when I just leave settings on all the time. It has limited multitasking, but the battery lasts a lot longer and I don't really see a difference with the way I use the phone. I still get notified about new Facebook posts, emails, etc, but it's all done using push notifications which use less battery than having lots of apps permanently running. iOS is still smoother than Android even with Project Butter too. My Nexus 7 gets stuck sometimes whilst scrolling, but my iPad and iPhone rarely ever do. Things are just more well thought out on iOS. Everything works very well (other than Maps!) Astra.Xtreme 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Limited multitasking? It behaves exactly how Android multitasking behaves. Applications are suspended when going to the background. Like Android, some applications are allowed to work in a hybrid mode. Android allows the installation of services, which are another application running in the background. Not many apps use this option, and it wastes more battery life. Apple has chose another model, a system-wide push support, which is much more efficient. It works good enough for most types of software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Til I Die Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Limited multitasking? It behaves exactly how Android multitasking behaves. Applications are suspended when going to the background. Like Android, some applications are allowed to work in a hybrid mode. Android allows the installation of services, which are another application running in the background. Not many apps use this option, and it wastes more battery life. Apple has chose another model, a system-wide push support, which is much more efficient. It works good enough for most types of software. I believe Android apps can run in the background running any tasks they like. Correct me if I'm wrong. For example, IRC clients which must remain connected to servers and active are possible on Android, but not on iOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@Leo Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 The ways Android apps avoid being killed in the background has a parallel on iOS with the limited Background APIs. The BroadcastReceivers component lets apps wake up for a short time to run some task or another, and then shunts it back to a background state. This is useful for location check-ins or file syncing.The other way to forcibly maintain an app in the background is the Service component. An app that is running as a Service can run indefinitely and should almost never be killed by the system. This is what makes Android multitasking unique. Regular processes will be ended before a service, and a developer can further indicate a Service?s importance by running it as ?foreground,? but this requires a notification icon to be persistently visible in the notification bar. You will see this behavior with automation apps like Locale as well as with music playback. http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios/2 iOS backgrounding is actually much more advanced, as iOS controls can free their allocated memory to allow the app a continued life, and are restored when the app is restored. This does not happen with Android. Perhaps your example of IRC client hits something that is limited with iOS, and there are other examples. But they are few, while the method implemented in iOS, and limitations in place, make people write better software. Server-initiated push is in the vast majority of cases a much more elegant solution than a living client polling for data. Apple's push deamon is alive, of course, but that's a very purposefully build single deamon for the entire software library. Sure, it makes it more difficult for developers to manager a server infrastructure, but that is not my concern as a software consumer on an iPhone or iPad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 It has limited multitasking, but the battery lasts a lot longer and I don't really see a difference with the way I use the phone. I still get notified about new Facebook posts, emails, etc, but it's all done using push notifications which use less battery than having lots of apps permanently running. It is very difficult for me to make comparisons between THIS generation hardware because I'm comparing an iPhone 4 to a Nexus 4 which has more than 2 years of technology between them. That being said, my observations about Android was that multitasking is much more immediate and ready-to-go when compared to how it works on my iPhone 4. Even small things, like getting SMS Messages in my non-stock BiteSMS app, are peculiar in iOS. I receive all these push notifications but when I open them the app spends about 5 seconds *loading* this data before it is ready to use. Seems like all 3rd party apps are like this on iOS. On the other hand, touch response is so much more "buttery smooth" on my iPhone 4 than the Nexus 4 across ALL applications. Nexus 4, some apps I would describe as "buttery smooth" other apps (such as Chrome) there is a noticeable input lag (not an FPS stutter, but a system response lag) that I think Google and iron out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramzorz Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Why don't you guys try Windows Phone 8? It really is a great mobile OS, and as more people come to the platform, more apps will also be developed for it. I agree, Windows Phone devices are highly underrated. I love iOS, but nothing can compare my Windows Phone. It's just a solid, stable operating system that has features built into that most other operating systems require 3rd party applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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