Live Messenger/Skype ... we're going backwards

[i11usive]

I've been a user of WLM for many years now and think it's a great IM client. Now Microsoft are phasing out WLM in favour of the Skype client - which doesn't support tabbed conversations and doesn't allow you to remove profile pictures from the chat screen. Anyone else think this move has sent us backwards?

[Alwaysonacoffebreak]

Yep. I also think it's a bad move. Until WLM still works I'll keep using it. The skype UI just doesn't work for me.

[keysteele]

Whats up with them charging for sharing screens now?? Not impressed

[Glassed Silver]

Can't stand the mess this fusion is. :sleep2:

I will hold back as long as possible to be sure to get the most tested and fixed migration experience possible.

We're losing MANY features with this transition. Ridiculous move.

If only they had given Skype more features before doing this. :sleep:

Whats up with them charging for sharing screens now?? Not impressed

They are?

Yaaaay, we're traveling back in time in terms of features.

Monetize everything! :pirate:

Glassed Silver:mac

[linsook]

I switched over two months ago. It's not WLM but i'm not bothered. I rarely open it. I use my phone mainly if I want to login and chat.

[Dot Matrix]

Keep in mind the Skype client is relatively unchanged from when Microsoft bought it. I have been hoping for a major revamp, but I don't think that's coming.

[HawkMan]

I've been a user of WLM for many years now and think it's a great IM client. Now Microsoft are phasing out WLM in favour of the Skype client - which doesn't support tabbed conversations and doesn't allow you to remove profile pictures from the chat screen. Anyone else think this move has sent us backwards?

The reasoning is simple. people don't use chat clients like they used to, people don't want all these advance features. or rather it's more of a case of many more users and the advanced users who used to use them are now a minority niche group.

[Dot Matrix]

The reasoning is simple. people don't use chat clients like they used to, people don't want all these advance features. or rather it's more of a case of many more users and the advanced users who used to use them are now a minority niche group.

True. I don't even use Skype that much, usually when I do, it's with one person, and we're video chatting.

I don't need tabs, or any of the other junk WLM had. I uninstalled Trillian years ago. AOL messenger I used while I was a freshman in college and fast gave that one up too.

[BajiRav]

Keep in mind the Skype client is relatively unchanged from when Microsoft bought it. I have been hoping for a major revamp, but I don't think that's coming.

The first order of business for Microsoft was to fire the Skype UX team. They obviously don't understand a single thing in how we/humans use software. Their stupid UI design also continues in the Skype metro app - which is horrible and stupid.

[Dot Matrix]

The first order of business for Microsoft was to fire the Skype UX team. They obviously don't understand a single thing in how we/humans use software. Their stupid UI design also continues in the Skype metro app - which is horrible and stupid.

I prefer the Metro app over the desktop client. It's not as buggy, and it's relatively straight forward.

[migo]

Everyone I used to talk to on WLM is on WhatsApp or FB Chat now. I think that's largely due to major problems with WLM. I don't have enough people to test how things have gotten better/worse, so it's a non-issue for me.

[Xilo]

No MSN group chats is a real big wtf.

[zeke009]

I hate using Skype for IM on my phone (Lumia 920). Messages rarely arrive unless my phone is awake, unlike using the integrated WLM function they always arrive. Until messaging is that reliable on all platforms, I am hesitant to make a complete conversion.

Part of me wishes that MS had integrated Skype to WLM for video chat. The WLM window is less cluttered than Skype, which looked like a mess the first time I launched it.

Granted, my use of WLM is low (family really).

[Brandon H Supervisor]

No MSN group chats is a real big wtf.

how is a group chat any different in skype?

[Xilo]

how is a group chat any different in skype?

Do you not understand english? The skype client doesn't support MSN group chats which is something me and my friends use very often.

[LaP]

I don't really care as i'm not using WLM anymore.

Why i'm not using it anymore ? Cause nobody i know use it anymore.

A friend wants to talk to me. It's either via Skype or facebook.

WLM as far as i'm concerned is a dying horse.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

Do you not understand english? The skype client doesn't support MSN group chats which is something me and my friends use very often.

and you can't transfer over? what's so special about MSN's version?

[Xilo]

and you can't transfer over? what's so special about MSN's version?

Because we all have several people on our contacts still using MSN?

[keysteele]

Can't stand the mess this fusion is. :sleep2:

I will hold back as long as possible to be sure to get the most tested and fixed migration experience possible.

We're losing MANY features with this transition. Ridiculous move.

If only they had given Skype more features before doing this. :sleep:

They are?

Yaaaay, we're traveling back in time in terms of features.

Monetize everything! :pirate:

Glassed Silver:mac

Yea I did i with a friend yesterday and it had to get activated and told me it's a I think 7 day trial period :crazy:

[Brandon H Supervisor]

Because we all have several people on our contacts still using MSN?

MS has already solved that problem, you just sign into skype with your microsoft account and it combines your accounts

[firey]

I still use WLM, don't foresee moving to Skype unless I am forced to. I still think of Skype as a call/video chat app.. I have never really used it for standard text chat.

[Brandon H Supervisor]

Yea I did i with a friend yesterday and it had to get activated and told me it's a I think 7 day trial period :crazy:

i think the whole having to pay to share desktops changed shortly before MS bought skype though

i know it's been like that for quite awhile now

[Xilo]

MS has already solved that problem, you just sign into skype with your microsoft account and it combines your accounts

And we are back to the original argument. They aren't combined. You're just signed onto 2 different accounts with the same program. The WLM and Skype are separate for now and there's things you can't do with your WLM contacts in the skype client (like group chats with WLM contacts).

[keysteele]

i think the whole having to pay to share desktops changed shortly before MS bought skype though

i know it's been like that for quite awhile now

Ok, I haven't shared a screen since they bought it...still sucks

[Arpit]

any of you guys having issues with skype where the messages get delayed? like i'd be talking to my friend and i wouldn't get her message for minutes, sometimes hours later. it's really annoying.