AMD's Vishera 8350 outclasses Intel's Core i7


Recommended Posts

The wife bought the pile driver - she likes it. Needed to replace the stock cooler but other than that - zero complaints. Games on it quite frequently - I will see if she will bench it against my i7 and see what happens with Crysis 2.

It's not even worth discussing this review. All the independent reviewers including the most knowledgeable (AnandTech, Tech Report, etc) have repeatedly and uniformly demonstrated that Ivy Bridge just trounces Vishera in games, as well as any application where single-threaded performance matters. Heck, Vishera fails to beat the ancient Phenom II in many tests. It's not necessarily a bad value, but trying to claim that it's faster than the i5 3570K in games will take a lot more convincing than that.

If all those "paid" Website really pushed down AMD to make Intel shine brighter, I think AMD would have done something about it.

So, is AMD being stupid for not doing anything or is it a fact that Intel i5 is (quite) faster, that is the question.... But I think I'm going to keep on reading AnandTech or TomsHardware for my CPU info...

AMD is pretty awesome. But Intel is the best. All processors Intel makes now are fast, and stable. I'm a person who has a Celeron processor in my laptop, yet it should have a i3 at least as my laptop was made in 2011...

It's not even worth discussing this review. All the independent reviewers including the most knowledgeable (AnandTech, Tech Report, etc) have repeatedly and uniformly demonstrated that Ivy Bridge just trounces Vishera in games, as well as any application where single-threaded performance matters. Heck, Vishera fails to beat the ancient Phenom II in many tests. It's not necessarily a bad value, but trying to claim that it's faster than the i5 3570K in games will take a lot more convincing than that.

If all those "paid" Website really pushed down AMD to make Intel shine brighter, I think AMD would have done something about it.

So, is AMD being stupid for not doing anything or is it a fact that Intel i5 is (quite) faster, that is the question.... But I think I'm going to keep on reading AnandTech or TomsHardware for my CPU info...

What they said 10X....

Well, I personally love AMD. If I had the cash, I would build a system with the Vishera and an i7 system and do my own benchmarks. But even though I'm an AMD lover, to this day, I have not seen and AMD out perform an i7 in any benchmarks.

I'm pretty sure this guy is only testing the integrated gpu on the respective chips. Any serious gamer would have a discrete card, making this review irrelevant to most people. On the CPU side, the intel solution trounces. No fanboyism, just facts.

Nope. He says multiple times he's using a Radeon 7870.

Though I think some of these results are a bit weird, as I get slightly higher framerates in metro 2033 with my weaker gtx 660 and first gen i7.

Nope. He says multiple times he's using a Radeon 7870.

Though I think some of these results are a bit weird, as I get slightly higher framerates in metro 2033 with my weaker gtx 660 and first gen i7.

Doh! You got me..Saw those framerates for the 2.5d sidescroller and couldn't imagine it was from a discrete solution. Guess it was more taxing than it looked.

I've bought my Phenom x6 1090t a couple of years ago and it kicks ass to this day; most of the stuff i do don't stress it and even games behave very good in it (mostly because games this days are more GPU hungry than CPU). Also the price tag; much cheaper than a i7 or i5 (back then) and...

...real men use real cores!

Yes an i7 probably is faster. I have no reason to doubt that.

BUT why do you need an i7. if you're a gamer, you're only throwing money out the window. the i7 isn't ging to give you increased game performance over an i5 or the Vishera, not today or for the next 5 years, CPU requirements in games have plateaued at a far lower level than the i7, and will stay there. there is no cpu intensive gaming technologies on the horizon. all the new taxing technologies coming to games, are all GPU or GPGPU stuff.

Meaning you can buy a high end AMD for cheaper or an i5 if yo must have intel, and save more money for things that will actually affect gameplay like an even better GPU or monitor or mouse or whatever.

the only people who have any need for the i7, is people doing heavy video editing and 3D rendering. i.e. long intensive CPU tasks like rendering that goes on for hours. then you can render in 20 instead of 21 hours.

  • Like 1

I hate to break this to the Intel lovers but, you do realize that AMD with far less resources is about keeping up with intel's billion dollar budget? Heck AMD doesn't have fabs for crying out loud, and oh and btw its funny how intel's tick tock stratergy has failed to leave AMD in the dust... think about it, AMD keeps up with intel for a better price.

Meaning you can buy a high end AMD for cheaper or an i5 if yo must have intel, and save more money for things that will actually affect gameplay like an even better GPU or monitor or mouse or whatever.

Well, you could buy an i3 and still go toe to toe with AMD.

Plus, you'll probably make up the difference in price between an i5 and a comparable AMD processor in your electric bill.

I'm an AMD fan, I the last time I bought a processor I tried to come up with every excuse to get one, but with places like Microcenter selling i5s for $169 + $40 off any motherboard, it's hard to justify the current AMD lineup.

I hate to break this to the Intel lovers but, you do realize that AMD with far less resources is about keeping up with intel's billion dollar budget? Heck AMD doesn't have fabs for crying out loud, and oh and btw its funny how intel's tick tock stratergy has failed to leave AMD in the dust... think about it, AMD keeps up with intel for a better price.

Finally a person with some common sense.

  • Like 2

I hate to break this to the Intel lovers but, you do realize that AMD with far less resources is about keeping up with intel's billion dollar budget? Heck AMD doesn't have fabs for crying out loud, and oh and btw its funny how intel's tick tock stratergy has failed to leave AMD in the dust... think about it, AMD keeps up with intel for a better price.

Not hard to "keep up" when you are not shooting for the top but somewhere in the middle, it's sad that AMD's best could be and is bested by an i3 powered PC, and the only reason they are still around is because they don't have to maintain any fabs, those things cost a lot of money to keep running

Seems to me that AMDs only purpose in life is to be "competition" to Intel to keep them form any bogus monopoly or anti trust claims

You missed my point by about a country mile....

Look at INTEL's r&d budget. and then look at AMD's... if intel can push out the holy grail on cpus and then right behind them comes AMD and misses their performance benchmark by a few clicks then its game over. now if AMD had the same budget that INTEL had like it did when the AMD ATHLON 64 Socket 939 intel would have to swallow its pride.

Remember AMD doesn't have the cash that intel does, and with the AMD FX they can either keep up or surpass intel, if I were an INTEL fan, id be ashamed. and oh by the way... how much more do you have to spend to get an CORE I7 vs an AMD FX 8 Core 8350.....exactly!

I rest my case.

  • Like 2
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Microsoft adds reusable skills and finance data connectors to Copilot in Excel by Karthik Mudaliar Microsoft is giving Copilot in Excel a collection of new features aimed squarely at finance teams. The update introduces reusable instructions for common tasks, connections to services such as FactSet and Morningstar, and a better way to review what Copilot intends to do before it starts changing a workbook. The most interesting addition is 'Skills' finally coming to Copilot in Excel. Skills let companies teach Copilot how to handle a recurring process, so employees do not need to write the same detailed prompt every month. Users can create skills that can specify the steps Copilot should follow, along with the required layout, formulas, and formatting. Microsoft says users can create their own skills by saving a SKILL.md file in OneDrive. The file is written using Markdown and tells Copilot when and how to perform the task. Once it is available, a user can select the skill in the Copilot pane or mention it in a prompt using the @ symbol. There is also a library of prebuilt finance skills for customers who do not want to create their own. Microsoft plans to let developers distribute additional skills through the Microsoft Marketplace and the Microsoft 365 Admin Center, with LSEG, Ramp, Rogo, samaya.ai, Velixo, and Vena among the first partners involved. The company says that it is also expanding the external data that Copilot can access from inside Excel. New connectors are being added for CB Insights, Daloopa, FactSet, Morningstar, PitchBook, and S&P Global data through technology developed by Kensho. There is a catch, however. Accessing these services may require a separate subscription from the relevant data provider, so a Microsoft 365 Copilot licence will not necessarily unlock all of them. FactSet is also only available in preview for now, with general availability planned for July. Microsoft is also trying to make Copilot’s workbook edits easier to inspect. Users can switch to a planning mode that shows which sheets, cell ranges, formulas, and assumptions Copilot intends to work with before it begins making changes. Once the work is complete, the Show Changes pane can distinguish edits made by Copilot from those made by human collaborators. The update continues Microsoft’s push to turn Excel Copilot from a chatbot into an agent that can carry out longer tasks. The company previously added an Agent Mode capable of planning and completing multi-step Excel work. Microsoft also recently acquired financial AI startup Fintool, another indication that finance is becoming a key target for its Excel AI strategy. Prebuilt skills, personalization, workbook rules, external connectors, planning mode, and Copilot attribution in Show Changes are generally available to Microsoft 365 Copilot customers using Excel on the web, Windows, and macOS. Custom skills are initially available to Microsoft 365 Insiders on Windows and Mac starting today. Microsoft plans to make them generally available across Windows, Mac, and the web over the next month. Partner-built skills are expected during the third quarter of the year. Availability may still differ depending on region and licensing.
    • Exactly. They serve different (although related) purposes.
    • Do not enter the code under any circumstances, or you will be sorry. It's definitely and most likely a hacking attempt.  That happened to me a couple of years ago, and I kept receiving those prompts for months. It's simply the attacker trying to get you tired of the constant requests, so you just give up and enter the code, so they can log in to your account. 
  • Recent Achievements

    • First Post
      kinowa earned a badge
      First Post
    • Rookie
      krychek57 went up a rank
      Rookie
    • Grand Master
      Jaybonaut went up a rank
      Grand Master
    • One Year In
      Philsl earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Dedicated
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Dedicated
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      438
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      169
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      134
    4. 4
      Xenon
      77
    5. 5
      Michael Scrip
      75
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!