Best Barton ?

[craybox]

Hello ppl,

I am after your invaluable advice again.

I am looking to upgrade from my AMD XP1700 running on an ABIT KD7 mobo ( max 333fsb i think )

I am looking to OC one with the thermaltake silent boost cause i dont like noise and cant afford the fancy liquid cooled solutions.

What in your experience is the best priced Barton from 2500 - > 3200 for OC'ability.

the prices seem reasonable as always but there is a big jump from 2800 - > 3000 - > 3200 is this justified ( although i cant afford the 3200 anyways)

TIA again

[secretforce]

2500 no question. Dream to overclock ;)

[EZ Tutty]

go for the 2500+ and clock it up to 3200+ speeds, with decent ram and mobo, and a little voltage increase you should manage that no problem, i have my 2500+ barton running at 2.28ghz, which is actually faster than the 3200+ (not by much i know) but alot of people can clear 2.3ghz with a 2500+.

3200+ speeds for 2500+ prices, you can't beat it!

[Homer]

And a nice Fat HSF to compliment it, with some kicking ass ram.

[Ferret]

So whats da difference between an Athlon and a Barton ?

I have an ASUS A7N8X-X, does this board support Barton's ? If it does, would it allow it to get 3200+ speeds ?

PLUS, what do you class as 'decent' RAM ? Heard alot 'bout Crucial, but is there a specific model ?

Thanks,

Ferret !

[youm0nt Veteran]

So whats da difference between an Athlon and a Barton ?

I have an ASUS A7N8X-X, does this board support Barton's ? If it does, would it allow it to get 3200+ speeds ?

PLUS, what do you class as 'decent' RAM ? Heard alot 'bout Crucial, but is there a specific model ?

Thanks,

Ferret !

barton is the name of the core on the processor.athlon is the name of the processor.there is also another core named thoroughbred.that asus board does support bartons,which processor with barton core though?

[Ferret]

Well I got an Athlon 2600+ Thourghbred !!!

So if I was to get Barton 2500+ I can get it to 3200+ speeds ?

Sounds sweet :D Just need to sell the 2600+ then !

[12Iceman]

*Duplicate post*

[12Iceman]

The 2500+ for sure. It seems to be seriously under clocked by default. You should be able to run it with the stock hsf at default voltage at 10.5 x 200 (which i believe is close to a 3000+ in performance). With the hsf you are getting you should have no problem getting it to and past the 3200+ speed of 2.2 ghz.

Plus at around $90-$95 currently its a great deal. If you are looking for a new motherboard that officialy supports 400 mhz fsb i recommend either the ASUS A7N8X Deluxe Rev. 2 or the Abit NF7-S Rev. 2, both of which are great for overclocking.

[craybox]

Thanks for the advice ppl, much appreciated ;)

[amoeba]

Own a 2500+ and I can get it to 3200+ with no problems and I KNOW I can go beyond. I'm not even using special cooling.

[Inertia]

can these barton 2500+ `s be clocked with standard HSF ? my m8 has 1

I have a 2700+ which i can clock to 2.3 ghz no problem, but I have an uprated (coolmaster jet 7) HSF and some delta screamers in my case.

//edit - Question answered, lol

[Garrett Socling]

Well I got an Athlon 2600+ Thourghbred !!!

So if I was to get Barton 2500+ I can get it to 3200+ speeds ?

Sounds sweet :D Just need to sell the 2600+ then !

I have a A7N8X-X and a 2500+ Barton.

I can run at 200Mhz, but my Crucial PC2700 doesn't like it (I don't think these paticular sticks like my mobo at all, actually...). It was a real ordeal to bump FSB and raise core and mem voltage and whatnot to get it to not only boot at 200Mhz, but run for a while too...I said, too much work (even though the performace (especially memory) was great at 200Mhz) and not enough stablity, and decided I could wait till I got better ram.

So, I am compromising. Every day or so I bump the multiplier. I'm gonna leave the voltage alone I think, and just find out what the chip //wants// to run at. I am at 2.08Ghz now 12.5x166, 7-3-3-2.5 (aggressive memory timings, lol...)

The included heatsink is complete crap. Either that or the TIM that they include for heat transfer got confused with the thermal insulator at the factory. I took off the stock HS, grabbed my $7 speeze, didn't even bother to scrape off the old TIM crap which was still left on the CPU, sorta smeared around the little Artic Silver that was left on the bottom of the Speeze and it still cools a lot better. At 500RPM less.

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[CloudEngineer]

i used to have a Barton 2800+ but sold it to a friend and got a 2500+. more bang for the buck.

[python134r]

:whistle: 2500 Barton AQXEA 0331 RPMW 205X11 3200+ stock timings,1.7 vcore

512 MB OCZ PC-3200 DDR Performance Series Rev. 2

Biostar M7NCD Pro Rev1.1 Bios 1007

Thermalright Slk-900A W/coolermaster80mm variable speed fan

Nothbridge Chipset h/s/f

PNY Ti-4400 128MB AGP

Channel Well,CWT-420ATX-12V 420w p/s

Artec WR-4848 CD/RW

Sansung DVD-612 DVD-ROM

Maxtor 31024H1 10GB 5400rpm HDD (os)

Samsung SV-2044D 20GB 5400rpm HDD (data)

Well modded generic case

Floppy disk drive

Nec 17" Multisync Monitor

Microsoft Optical Cordless mouse

Logitec Optical Mouse (Gameing)

4 Case fans Antec-blue led

Okidata Okipage 4W LaserPrinter

LexMark Z32 Inkjet printer

Altec ASC-95 speakers

Cambridge Soundworks Subbie

Windows XP Professional SP1

Woods High performance Series Surge Suppressor

Apc Back-ups 280B UPs

Adelphia Cable 3Mbit d/l, 256 u/l

[velocity3k]

2500+

[craybox]

ok well i should get my 2500+, Thermaltake Silent boost & pc3200 ram tommorow :)

but i have one last question.

i think a 3200 is clocked at around 2.3ghz ish, now if you overclock any of these processors to like 2.4+ what does the bios/windows recognize it as ? there is obviously no 3400 or whatever

[insurektion]

2500+ for sure most oc able

[womble68]

2500+ = Barton

2600+ = Best overall value Athlon XP

[velocity3k]

ok well i should get my 2500+, Thermaltake Silent boost & pc3200 ram tommorow :)

but i have one last question.

i think a 3200 is clocked at around 2.3ghz ish, now if you overclock any of these processors to like 2.4+ what does the bios/windows recognize it as ? there is obviously no 3400 or whatever

the 3200+ runs at 2.2Ghz, it isn't really worth overclocking any more than that on standard cooling, the perfmormance increases will be minimal. Is you go above that, the bios will recognize it as AMD Athlon XP (speed ghz).

[youm0nt Veteran]

i have the 2500+ and its an awesome processor.i havent overclocked it yet. :p so far its very stable. :)

[Samoa]

i have a 2800 @ 3200 level, 2.2ghz 400FSB 1.7v. I have only Kingston Value Ram PC3200. But with my mobo, it is stable at 400fSB. I could do better, with better RAM. I'm just not interested anymore in extreme OC.....

[isus]

2500.

mine is oc'ed to 2256mhz, and runs at 32C/90F idle.

cpuidle 6 is friggin awesome.

[stezo2k]

damnit, instead of getting my 2400 (266fsb) i was thinking of getting a barton 2500, wish i would of got one now :(

[tickbabies]

my barton does the job. got it for a mear $80.