Fedora 18 Finally Released


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Linux still looks hideous regardless of the desktop manager. Fonts are fugly, icons are fugly, spacing and aesthetics (what's that???) are non-existent. Maybe by v180.0 they'll improve on that front...

You have a compiler!

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also worth to install fedorautils imho


su -c "curl http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/fedorautils/fedorautils.repo -o /etc/yum.repos.d/fedorautils.repo && yum install fedorautils"
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havent found out yet how to make a simple launcher/link to jdownloader .... anyone?

I wish someone would fix the Intel gfx driver so when I enable desktop cube, it doesn't screw the OS up to the point where a re-install is needed. Everytime I enable cube effects, I get major lag in the UI. If I click on the anything, it takes 5 seconds to pop up. No CPU spiking either, just major delays when clicking on anything. Whats worse is the only thing that fixes it seems to be disabling effects all together as simply unchecking cube effects won't remedy the problem. Desktop effects never works right again unless I re-install. Basically install, never, ever enable cube effects or I'm screwed.

OpenSUSE 12.2 suffers from this bug to, so not distro specific. This is a Dell Latitude D520 in case anyone is interested. I'd report it, but Fedora forces you to create an account. I'm sick of creating accounts!

havent found out yet how to make a simple launcher/link to jdownloader .... anyone?

I've never used JDownloader before, but you can create a launcher for any application on your system by placing a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications. For example, you might create a file named ~/.local/share/applications/jdownloader.desktop that contains the following:


#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Exec=/usr/bin/java -jar /home/xorangekiller/.jd/JDownloader.jar
Categories=Network;
Name=JDownloader
Comment=JDownloader is a free, open-source download management tool.
Icon=/home/xorangekiller/.jd/jd/img/logo/jd_logo_128_128.png
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Linux still looks hideous regardless of the desktop manager. Fonts are fugly, icons are fugly, spacing and aesthetics (what's that???) are non-existent. Maybe by v180.0 they'll improve on that front...

First of all "linux" is just a kernel.

Anyway, this notion is very wrong and your post is essentially flame bait. Just look at the most popular distro (ubuntu) which has excellent font rendering out of the box (and fedora can have good rendering with the infinality freetype packages). And there are plenty of good themes/icons available. Here's my current f18 desktop:

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I would recommend replacing GNOME 3 (default) with LXDE, XCFE, KDE, or other window manager after/during installation.

GNOME 3 (not Fedora) being slow and a resource hog is not Fedora's fault.

I would especially recommend LXDE. It reminds me of the first releases of KDE and GNOME - simplistic, fast and very efficient on resources. The default Fedora LXDE configuration needs a lot of tweaking to make it look nice. Last time I tried it, the task bar was black like Vista's - eww.

Was kde shutdown? Just clicked the screenshot on the main site and it still looks like an outdated windows. Gnome seems to be overboard and KDE seems to be old and poor looking. They should make a WM in between, like UbuntuOSX lol

First of all "linux" is just a kernel.

Anyway, this notion is very wrong and your post is essentially flame bait. Just look at the most popular distro (ubuntu) which has excellent font rendering out of the box (and fedora can have good rendering with the infinality freetype packages). And there are plenty of good themes/icons available. Here's my current f18 desktop:

post-159052-0-40971100-1358381164.png

that SS didn't help your case

Was kde shutdown? Just clicked the screenshot on the main site and it still looks like an outdated windows. Gnome seems to be overboard and KDE seems to be old and poor looking. They should make a WM in between, like UbuntuOSX lol

that SS didn't help your case

There are plenty that would disagree. That screenshot shows high quality icons and good font rendering. And I fail to see how gnome is "overboard", its a fairly minimalistic DE visually, much more so than KDE.

And what you are looking for already exists, its called pantheon: http://elementaryos.org/journal/luna-beta-1-released

First of all "linux" is just a kernel.

Anyway, this notion is very wrong and your post is essentially flame bait. Just look at the most popular distro (ubuntu) which has excellent font rendering out of the box (and fedora can have good rendering with the infinality freetype packages). And there are plenty of good themes/icons available. Here's my current f18 desktop:

post-159052-0-40971100-1358381164.png

I like it, that looks very smart and professional, I could live with a desktop like that, my grumble with Fedora is it seems to take a lot of effort to achieve the same things that are moderately easy to do in other distros

I know its all a learning thing, once you learn its easy enough, but not having options on right click such as 'Root menu' to open nautilus as root etc got on my nerves fairly quickly

Downloading it now. Been running Ubuntu for a while now and I'll have to say that on a decent PC with a big screen, I've learned to like Unity. It took some getting used to not having my Gnome 2 panels and stuff, but after using it a bit I'm learning to appreciate the aesthetics and the extra screen space.

I'll throw this in a VM just to play around with it, I used Fedora years and years ago back when it was still called "Fedora Core", but got discouraged with some quirky bugs that existed at the time.

Can't seem to get the F18 Live CD to load properly in VMWare, reaches a blue wallpaper and never reaches the desktop

I had this same problem. Found out its caused by 3D Acceleration in VMWare. Disable 3D Acceleration for the VM and it will boot properly.

First of all "linux" is just a kernel.

Anyway, this notion is very wrong and your post is essentially flame bait. Just look at the most popular distro (ubuntu) which has excellent font rendering out of the box (and fedora can have good rendering with the infinality freetype packages). And there are plenty of good themes/icons available. Here's my current f18 desktop:

Sexy! Details? :D

Sexy! Details? :D

Gnome Users

http://gnome-look.org/

KDE Users

http://kde-look.org/

XFCE Users

http://xfce-look.org/

And most distros have several packages of optional fonts, icons and such in their package managers.

I had this same problem. Found out its caused by 3D Acceleration in VMWare. Disable 3D Acceleration for the VM and it will boot properly.

Sexy! Details? :D

default gtk theme, faience icons, tyr gnome-shell theme, droid sans font (liberation sans for mono), infinality freetype packages set to emulate ubuntu font rendering

after updating the kernel from 3.6 something to 3.7 something (via autouptade i guess), it still boots but then i try to start firefox and the whole system freezes (with graphical glitches). that happens only with firefox, i can start other apps normaly...

Gnome Users

http://gnome-look.org/

KDE Users

http://kde-look.org/

XFCE Users

http://xfce-look.org/

And most distros have several packages of optional fonts, icons and such in their package managers.

I know that, I was asking Viper for his themes/customization. Thanks.

Was kde shutdown? Just clicked the screenshot on the main site and it still looks like an outdated windows. Gnome seems to be overboard and KDE seems to be old and poor looking.

KDE is the best DE in terms of eye candy imo. It tries to copy Windows UI, so how you think it's outdated is beyond me.

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i just dont get the thing with interfaces and themes copying windooze. i prefer linux distros to be a bit different, otherwise no point in use them, could as well use windows then

btw: pokerth 1.0 unable to use it on fedora. sucks.

i just dont get the thing with interfaces and themes copying windooze. i prefer linux distros to be a bit different, otherwise no point in use them, could as well use windows then

btw: pokerth 1.0 unable to use it on fedora. sucks.

It's not exactly like windows. My pet peeve is making linux look like OS X.

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