Recommended Posts

Hello guys, I was thinking of buying a new laptop but thought I'd just assemble a PC instead because I really want to experience proper gaming after using a laptop for the last ~6 years and the fact that it would offer better performance/price ratio.

I have a few questions first:

  • Does an i5 significantly improve gaming over an i3?
  • To what extent does the CPU affect gaming?
  • Does a quad-core affect gaming or will it in the near future? Quad-core vs dual-core.
  • Will an SSD do any good other than improve boot time and other things? I'd be mostly gaming.

---------------------------------

Okay, from the guide...

1. I'll be starting from scratch so I would want to know what Graphic/Video card, CPU, RAM, MB, HDD, Case, Cooling I should buy.

Since I am going "budget", I guess it's going to be an AMD system.

Is the Radeon HD 7850 1 GB good for today's games and hopefully for the next ~5 years?

Do you reckon I go for an i3/i5/something AMD?

I think I'll go for 8 (4 x 2) GB RAM

I don't know much about Motherboards. Anything that will last in terms of compatibility and not become ancient anytime soon.

I think >=700 GB would do me good. Will adding an SSD make sense if I just really want to game?

2. My budget is around ~$1,100. Prices in India are higher so I have to keep that in mind as well.

?I can stretch my budget a little bit if it's really necessary. ~INR 60,000

3. I'll be using my computer to play games in High. Games like AC:III, BF:3, Torchlight 2, Borderlands, etc.

I'll also be using it to watch MKV videos that do not work flawlessly on my current laptop. They are 720p videos. A little Photoshop, Picasa here and there. I listen to a lot of music so would adding a Sound Card do any good?

4. What is the standard gaming screen size? I will not be SLI/Crossfire-ing.

5. I'll be buying these components by the month of May or June.

6. As far as I know I will not be overclocking.

I don't need an optical drive but I guess a cheap DVD Burning/Reading thing won't hurt.

I don't care for 3D, Touch.

I am an audiophile.

Link to comment
https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1135118-budget-gaming-pc-~1000~/
Share on other sites

hey...

really cant stress this enough... (don't feel like typing for ages)

get the best combo of motherboard and CPU...something like

Asus P9X79 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard - ?179.99

Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - ?224.99 inc VAT

GTX 660 - ?160

use rest for RAM. CASE, and what ever else

reason... this will last you the longest time...

1. BTW huge diff between i3, i5, i7

2. CPU is the bottleneck factor - hence ensure you have really gd and there is an upgrade path

3. Huge-ish... depending on who you ask, Processor has load of room*... ie even if not mult-threaded... app/game... if something comes up... background processes... then this will happen on the free cores.

4. yes... and no.... spend money on other things..., if you have left over then get one.

if your building a gaming machine... then AMD is out.

just get what i suggested above you wont be disappointed.

I am going to group questions together as you are asking the same question in variation.

Does an i5 significantly improve gaming over an i3?

To what extent does the CPU affect gaming?

Does a quad-core affect gaming or will it in the near future? Quad-core vs dual-core.

Some current games are capable of running 4 threads and thus a Quad-core / i5 would improve upon performance over a Dual-core / i3. With next generation you will see the threads rise with the likes of Crysis 3. (You also have cache / on board graphic differences - directed specially for the i3 vs i5 question)

Will an SSD do any good other than improve boot time and other things? I'd be mostly gamin

Yes you will see an improvement in boot time and some performance on other applications depending on access patterns and SSD choice.

  • Does an i5 significantly improve gaming over an i3?
  • To what extent does the CPU affect gaming?
  • Does a quad-core affect gaming or will it in the near future? Quad-core vs dual-core.
  • Will an SSD do any good other than improve boot time and other things? I'd be mostly gaming.
  • Is the Radeon HD 7850 1 GB good for today's games and hopefully for the next ~5 years?

1) Define significantly. Base your budget around the best GPU and CPU you can, but if it's for gaming, GPU comes first.

2) Some, although it depends heavily on the game. Again, base the build off the GPU.

3) Yes, again though, it depends on the game.

4) Boot and load times, but for those two things alone an SSD is a huge improvement.

5) Today is a mid-range card. It will run games on high at 1080, but probably not ultra? Five years from now? No one can say, it'll probably chug along at low, low resolutions in five years, assuming it still has driver support.

Is the Radeon HD 7850 1 GB good for today's games and hopefully for the next ~5 years?

You should aim for a GPU with 2GB and 5 years is asking alot maybe 3 years?

5. I'll be buying these components by the month of May or June.

Haswell Processors from Intel will be out around that time on a new socket LGA 1150 so you might want to wait until then.

I had to build a PC for a friend not too long ago, he was aiming for 900? more or less; so I'll tell you how thing ended up there in case that helps you choose some things, the prices I put are from the time it was built:

Proc: Core i5 3570K ~ 193?

Sink: Cooler Master Hyper 612S ~ 44?

MB: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ~ 120?

Power supply: Aerocool Strike-X 600W (it was a cheapish 80 Plus Bronze) ~ 60?

RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 16GB (2x8GB) CL9 ~ 92?

HDD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB (because he already had a 1TB barracuda to put too) ~ 115?

Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 OC 2GB ~ 185?

Plus external case and a DVD recorder, everything ended up ~870? and I'd say that equipment should last for some years after all the motherboard allows for overclocking and SLI or Crossfire setup, and he can always push CPU and graphics card a little further. At that time a 660 or 660 Ti was quite out of range, don't know how it'd be now.

The last poster suggestions are good, personally would drop the ram the 8 gig

What resolution you plan on running you're games? That's the most important question you'll have to ask yourself because it will greatly affect the video card choice.

Remember also that new console are coming out this year, witch mean that the port of those games will run slow on a good hardware today, you can do a good 2 year with those video cards

A CPU can limit frame rate .. pair a GTX670/680 with an i3 and the i3 won't be able to keep up with what the GPU can produce.

You'd have to look at actual numbers. It's possible an i3 with a GTX680 could drop a game from 80 to 60 fps. 20 fps loss, but still above 60.

IMO there are bigger factors in processor choice, namely do you need a quad core, and will you overclock which will push you one way or another.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Researchers claim Microsoft's quantum breakthrough is flawed by basic Python errors by Karthik Mudaliar Microsoft's aggressive roadmap to deliver a commercial quantum supercomputer by 2029 has now hit a bit of a snag, and it's not because of a complex sub-zero dilution refrigerator, but rather because of a few lines of basic Python code. A new critique published in the scientific journal Nature argues that simple software errors effectively manufactured the breakthrough that Microsoft's foundational research claimed back in 2025 into Majorana-based topological qubits. Topological quantum computing, the path that Microsoft chose for its research, relies on creating and controlling "Majorana zero modes." These are exotic quasiparticles that theoretically offer vastly superior error resistance compared to the highly sensitive superconducting qubits currently being championed by rivals like Google and IBM. However, physically proving you have created these particles requires sifting through massive amounts of complex electrical conductance data to isolate a specific "topological gap." Because of the sheer volume of data, physicists rely heavily on custom software pipelines to process the results. This is where the Python scripts come in. Now, according to the critique, Microsoft’s data processing software contained fundamental programming errors that ultimately skewed the published results. By mishandling data arrays or deploying incorrect logic within the Python script, the software supposedly discarded "noisy" or contradictory data. Which is why it only highlighted the specific electrical measurements that supported the topological-gap claim. The researchers behind the critique argued that this makes the findings invalid, suggesting the heralded "quantum leap" was actually a false positive generated by bad code and not a product of groundbreaking physics. However, Microsoft is pushing back hard against these allegations. The Redmond giant has formally rejected the criticism, saying that it's just a minor anomaly rather than a fatal flaw. According to the company, while there may have been a minor oversight in the data parsing scripts, it does not alter the fundamental reality of their physical experiment. Just weeks ago, Microsoft unveiled the Majorana 2 quantum processor, a milestone so significant that the company boldly accelerated its timeline for a commercial quantum supercomputer from 2035 down to 2029. But the new software allegations reopen an old wound. Microsoft's quantum division faced a remarkably similar crisis when a landmark 2018 paper on Majorana particles was famously retracted in 2021 after independent physicists discovered the data had been inappropriately cropped. That historical baggage makes the current Python-related allegations particularly sensitive. If the foundational math and data processing for the 2025 breakthrough are genuinely flawed, the highly anticipated 2029 commercial timeline could easily be delayed or, worse, cancelled.
    • Because of what they have done to VMware I will never buy anything Broadcom again.
    • AMD releases hotfix for driver install issues on Windows 10 PCs by Taras Buria Earlier this week, AMD released an important graphics driver update. Version 26.6.2 brought AMD FSR 4.1 support to the previous-gen Radeon lineup, the RX 7000 series, giving users better upscaling tech that was previously locked to the newest GPUs. However, the driver turned out to be a little buggy, with users reporting installation issues on systems still running Windows 10. AMD quickly acknowledged the bug and today released a hotfix to resolve the problem. The AMD 26.6.3 Hotfix update is now available for download from the official website. Given that it is a hotfix release, it has only one change in its release notes: AMD announced the update on its official X account and added that a WHQL driver update with the necessary fixes would be released next week. Meanwhile, users can apply the hotfix or roll back to the previous driver using the official AMD Cleanup Utility. You can download AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 26.6.3 Hotfix Preview Driver from the official website here. It is compatible with all currently supported graphics cards and 64-bit Windows 10 and 11. Full release notes are available on the same page.
    • With Microsoft now listening to its core audience and acting upon received feedback, fans can finally expect a much better version of Windows 11 than what was available five years ago. Here is to five more years, Windows 11! I guess we all need a good laugh now and again...
  • Recent Achievements

    • Dedicated
      Scoobystu earned a badge
      Dedicated
    • First Post
      Tom Schmidt earned a badge
      First Post
    • One Month Later
      D0nn13 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Rookie
      +ChiefOfNeo went up a rank
      Rookie
    • One Year In
      Tom Schmidt earned a badge
      One Year In
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      465
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      177
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      123
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      82
    5. 5
      Xenon
      76
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!