Recommended Posts

Just seeing the reactions here and what I read elsewhere, I am damn tempted to start up SimCity 4 on my computer. I'll wait on 5 when it hits the christmas bargin bin.

It's the nostalgia.

SC4 will run just fine on Windows 8 or earlier (I have SC4 Deluxe installed on my Windows 8 desktop, and put a shortcut for it into Origin) - however, trying to compare the two any which way (SC4 and the current version) is silly in the extreme.

The current SC has a much heftier back-end (quite aside from the GlassBoxEngine) because the back-end database is itself a great-deal heftier.

Throw in the graphical improvements (despite similar GPU requirements compared to SC4), and the ten-year gap between the two becomes obvious. Painfully obvious.

What the gripers want is *improved old* - not new.

All the negative reviews on Amazon for this game make me smile. Mostly because I just dislike EA.

I know, I'm having a good laugh with this thread too, but we all know EA wont learn from this, or Dead Space 3 or any other attempt at this

They'll simply blame something else.

That said.... I think I'll install Transport Tycoon Deluxe.

The only problems are the server problems. Once you actually play the game the plot sizes won't matter. There is a ton to manage . There is more strategy involved in this one. if you had those huge plot sizes you would never be able to manage the whole city. Also you can have a whole region to yourself. So one city would be an oil city who delivers oil to the other cities and things like that . each specialization has its own problems.

Its a lot more fun then it sounds. Also just building the city quickly will not work in this game. Roads and transportation are a big plus. You can build out the whole plot in an hour or two but that does not mean your population will be big.

Also This region play is similar to NYC. I live by NYC and each borough is their own city that shares rescources. I hope EA comes out with a NYC region that is shaped like nyc with 5 cities. heck maybe even 7 cities with 2 more taking the places of Nassau and Suffolk counties on long island

The *region* model is how MOST cities grow (and succeed); here are three examples (none of which are in the United States) - London, UK, Paris, France, and Berlin, Germany.

Each of the three has an *Old* section - that was, at the beginning, the original city. As the city grew, it began to *eat* its suburbs - we know them as *neighborhoods* today.

I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion, but it is one I believe is based on facts...

Historically speaking, this is not the first game to have launch day server issues.

Sure, it is no doubt up there with the more disappointing games with how it is so dependent to the servers thanks to "always online," but launch day server issues are hardly new for a huge release such as this game.

So while it no doubt sucks, about the only thing to really do is sit back and wait for the issues to be resolved sooner rather than later.

If it bothers you that much, demand a refund, speak with your wallets. That is the only true way to try and avoid such a debacle in the future.

This guy named his city "this is going to crash" and the moment he hit enter, kaboom!! He had 3 crashes in the space of 20 mins, then managed to get a city going again, and bang after about 40 mins, it just booted him back to main menu.

http://www.twitch.tv...51131?t=222m15s

**Beware a lot of swearing in video**

reaction.jpg

Boy oh Boy

Read those reviews on Amazon

I was on fence. Now it's a definite NO.

Will wait for dollar sale later.

Now this will make a good justification for pirates. Once the game is successfully hacked, the pirates will have twice the fun without worrying about the online content.

Who will suffer? Legitimate buyers.

Think about it EA. Wait what? Your laundry man unplugged servers to plug in his iron?

I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion, but it is one I believe is based on facts...

Historically speaking, this is not the first game to have launch day server issues.

Sure, it is no doubt up there with the more disappointing games with how it is so dependent to the servers thanks to "always online," but launch day server issues are hardly new for a huge release such as this game.

So while it no doubt sucks, about the only thing to really do is sit back and wait for the issues to be resolved sooner rather than later.

If it bothers you that much, demand a refund, speak with your wallets. That is the only true way to try and avoid such a debacle in the future.

I don't know man, I don't see how people can keep defending this. You bring up other launch day issues - but the whole point is to LEARN from those experiences and not repeat them. And time and again it keeps happening. They do these "beta" sign-ups, they do these "stress tests", they do this and that...for what?? To not have an offline component is just asanine for reasons just like this...and its a single player game! Even more so than Diablo 3 because at least Diablo has a history of online play. SimCity never has had that and EA wants to go and just throw the book at it.

The other issue for me is game saves. If you want to do cloud saves, fine. But to have them server-specific is ridiculous.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Posts

    • Sandboxie Plus 1.17.8 / Classic 5.72.8 by Razvan Serea Run programs in a sandbox to prevent malware from making permanent changes to your PC. Sandboxie allows you to run your browser, or any other program, so that all changes that result from the usage are kept in a sandbox environment, which can then be deleted later. Sandboxie is a sandbox-based isolation software for 32- and 64-bit Windows NT-based operating systems. It is being developed by David Xanatos since it became open source, before that it was developed by Sophos (which acquired it from Invincea, which acquired it earlier from the original author Ronen Tzur). It creates a sandbox-like isolated operating environment in which applications can be run or installed without permanently modifying the local or mapped drive. An isolated virtual environment allows controlled testing of untrusted programs and web surfing. Sandboxie is available in two flavors Plus and Classic. Both have the same core components, this means they have the same level of security and compatibility. What's different is the user interface the Plus build has a modern Qt based UI which supports all new features that have been added since the project went open source. The Classic build has the old no longer developed MFC based UI, hence it lacks support for modern features, these features can however still be used when manually configured in the Sandboxie.ini. Sandboxie Plus 1.17.8 / Classic 5.72.8 release notes: Added added DisableCustomTitleOpt=[process,][y|n] to allow [#] sandboxie title markers on custom-titlebar windows (Delphi VCL, Qt, Electron) that were previously skipped to prevent DWM repaint CPU loops #5387 Changed updated bundled ImDisk driver to 3.0.2 #5419 Fixed fix Suppress logs for expected non-user SIDs #5422 SbieSvc.exe: SBIE2218/2219 error when run program as administrator #5417 fixed explorer.exe crashes in Application Compartment when Huorong Security is installed #5423 Download: Sandboxie Plus (64-bit) | 23.5 MB (Open Source) Download: Sandboxie Classic (64-bit) | 3.0 MB Links: Sandboxie Website | GitHub | ARM64 | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
    • Hello, Christian Maas' XVI32 is a nice (and very small) hex editor. Speaking of hex editors, many years ago a colleague and I who both worked at Tribal Voice managed to edit a copy of the company's PowWow instant messaging client to make it behave better now that all of its lookup servers and other server-side tech was gone.  The program didn't support NAT (RFC-3022 was introduced in January 2001, the same time Tribal Voice was shuttered), but it still worked okay if you manually set up port-forwarding on your router.  The server at http://powwow.jazy.net/ hosts a copy (usual warnings about downloading and running untrusted code from random internet servers apply). I occasionally use some tools like Funduc Software's Search and Replace and Application Mover when I need to make mass-edits to text-based files or move programs with a hard-coded installation directories, respectively.  When I need to figure out the exact LCD panel inside of a laptop, EnTech Taiwan's Monitor Asset Manager is my go-to tool for that purpose. JD Design's website (now hosted on github.io) has a number of interesting freeware and shareware utilities.  I used to use their TouchPro utility to set the file timestamps on software I was mastering to match its version number (e.g., version 3.00 of a program had all of its files dates set to 3:00AM, and so forth). Karenware has a number of interesting freeware utilities, too. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky  
    • I still use HexChat! Not really as ancient as the 1994 AutoCAD above my post, but I have never found anything better to replace it. Yes we still operate an IRC server https://www.neowin.net/irc/ 😛 
    • At work we still have a couple of people that use a version of AutoCAD LT purchased in 1994. This predates Windows 95 and works fine on versions of Windows up to XP. Its long since run in an locked down isolated XP VM, accessible via RDP. I did install LibreCAD for them, however they said it was just too different to get to grips with. In all fairness one of them is now 75 and the other is almost 60.
    • On my music making (non internet) PC Sony Acid Pro 7.0 Adobe Audition 2015 Korg Legacy Collection Windows 7 SP1
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      Jeroen Wilms earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      rolfus earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Leroy Jethro Gibbs earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Conversation Starter
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • One Month Later
      AndreaB earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      509
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      198
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      138
    4. 4
      ATLien_0
      90
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      82
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!