Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games

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There is no inherit benefit to being always online on a console, it should be the users choice if they wish to play connected to the internet or not. People move houses, people have internet outages, people have unreliable connections (even satellite broadband), people travel on holiday/army service/to visit relatives who do not have internet access, people have dialup, people live in developing countries, people live under broadband monopolies (australia with high prices/low caps?) and the people's list goes on.

Mix those occurrences with the majority of adults working in full time jobs, 9-5 or more each week, and yeah missing out on your small daily/weekly 30 minute window of gaming due to 1~3 of the internet outages you get a year IS going to **** you off if all you planned to do was play a SP game. It was unnecessary for you to miss out, you've been playing single player games for 20 years with or without your internet access, and now you can't? For what good?

It is one further step closer to completely removing ownership of a product you've bought by enforcing draconian DRM. It's fine saying you cannot use PSN/XBL without agreeing to conditions, but you cannot use your console at all unless you have internet access?

It's an increasingly grim time to be a gamer if this goes through/becomes standard. You are a very ignorant person if you believe the world revolves around you, your home and your internet connection. Gaming was brought about to try and involve gamers of all ages and locations, not you and your United States of America (not a dig at America, it just seems as if large amounts OF Americans forget about the rest of the world).

Lastly if this all turns out to be untrue, it was not simply a waste of time, this gives these companies a clear indication of how annoyed they will make lots of customers if they turn to such anti-consumerist approaches.

This is a waste of time. For all the reasons you mention and then some, people can and will speak with their wallets should a company choose to go this route. Spending this amount of time bantering on about a rumor is a waste because they've already made up their mind. When they actually say "your console needs to be always on", that's a more appropriate time to spend all this time discussing it. And you're absolutely right that there's no vast benefit to implementing this, which is why I believe the rumor isn't true.

Wait until they actually say something, then come out and say whatever you want. Or better yet, just don't buy the console. Until then, this is just fanning unnecessary flames.

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This is a waste of time. For all the reasons you mention and then some, people can and will speak with their wallets should a company choose to go this route. Spending this amount of time bantering on about a rumor is a waste because they've already made up their mind. When they actually say "your console needs to be always on", that's a more appropriate time to spend all this time discussing it. And you're absolutely right that there's no vast benefit to implementing this, which is why I believe the rumor isn't true.

Wait until they actually say something, then come out and say whatever you want. Or better yet, just don't buy the console. Until then, this is just fanning unnecessary flames.

A lot can change in 6 months. If not completely changing, being modified in some way or another. The better decision is to not enforce always-online for everything, and leave it up to publishers to decide on their own. That way if EA pull another SimCity it's EA that get the flak, not Microsoft, as Microsoft didn't enforce always-online on a hardware or software level, it's EA's choosing.

As I finished with earlier, even if untrue, such a ruckus like this cannot be created without either a rumour, or something being true. It's far too hard to gather such a crowd and media attention on this level without some flames. It would be good if we could get massive anti-DRM campaigns out of sheer determination of pro-consumerists rallying together, but that doesn't grab the journalists attention. Therefore whether it's true or not it's good we've had such a blow up as you cannot argue our games industry isn't being pushed further into DRM, and if not now, someone will have full on hardware based DRM in their plans at some point.

It is better to scare pre-launch of something like this, rather than it being implemented and the backlash coming afterwards. It's always harder to backpedal than it is pre-emptively change a potentially precarious decision.

Voting with your wallet is ever becoming a "scapegoat", gamers invest heavily in their favourite platforms and it is simply not easy to give up a brand or platform all your friends and favourite franchises are on. You could argue it's easier to boycott a franchise, or even a whole developer/publisher, but boycotting one of the three console makers, it's not a decision that's easy, especially if most of your eggs are in the basket you're telling someone not to continue on with.

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Microsoft also has not denied that next Xbox will require you to sacrifice kittens to start a game, what's everyone's opinion on that?

I'd like to think people can separate the rational and possible from the completely ridiculous. The rumours have come about from what most people will agree to be perfectly reasonable rumour fodder - Many sources, developers, multiple mentions over the past year, the MS employee's behaviour, other publishers/developers forcing always online on us, etc.

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Microsoft also has not denied that next Xbox will require you to sacrifice kittens to start a game, what's everyone's opinion on that?

At least 2 game publishers have discussed the rumor and what it might mean to gaming, also suggesting it would be for DRM, in interviews. The nature of the tweet out of MS didn't help nor does their non-denial. This has been rumored for over a year. So it has traction and is definitely worth discussing.

My guess is Microsoft is trying to gauge the acceptance level, much like I believe they often leak their own internal builds over the years.

Spending this amount of time bantering on about a rumor is a waste because they've already made up their mind.

Not a waste of time. People with common interests enjoy discussing things, including hypotheticals, what-ifs, and rumors.

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At least 2 game publishers have discussed the rumor and what it might mean to gaming, also suggesting it would be for DRM, in interviews. The nature of the tweet out of MS didn't help nor does their non-denial. This has been rumored for over a year. So it has traction and is definitely worth discussing.

My guess is Microsoft is trying to gauge the acceptance level, much like I believe they often leak their own internal builds over the years.

Not a waste of time. People with common interests enjoy discussing things, including hypotheticals, what-ifs, and rumors.

Show me at least one clear source which says games won't work without an Internet connection. Here is a hint, there is none.

And you know what, I will trust Major Nelson over any rumors and especially one started by kotaku.

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I know it's hard, but don't get tangled up in rumors. It's a waste of everyone's time. I can't say much more about the subject right now...and I am sure you all can understand that.

http://www.reddit.com/r/xbox360/comments/1btgjb/anyone_else_hate_how_the_new_cool_thing_is_to/c99xqjh

As I said, let's wait until Microsoft says it clearly because AFAIK even Sony hasn't made it clear yet with used games.

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Kotaku is the worst gaming news site on the planet even though this is a big new story in the future do not listen to a single word they type .

they are also avaid haters of anything nintendo - and even CEO of EA has had issues with this site in the past just a heads up

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I remember that I played Nintendo wii like Mario Kart Wii, when I played it over the internet, but it get kicked off while I played it sometimes. I can imagine that internet will kick people's server often on next xbox and PS4 when you play it over the internet.

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As I said, let's wait until Microsoft says it clearly because AFAIK even Sony hasn't made it clear yet with used games.

Sony tells Eurogamer: PlayStation 4 will not block used games

PlayStation 4 will play used games

Sony: PS4 won't require 'always-on' internet connection

Kotaku is the worst gaming news site on the planet even though this is a big new story in the future do not listen to a single word they type .

they are also avaid haters of anything nintendo - and even CEO of EA has had issues with this site in the past just a heads up

Edge were actually the breakers on this story - http://www.edge-onli...and-new-kinect/

They were right on everything pre-PS4 announcement, except the 8GB.

There's also this

Xbox 720 rumours are flying thick and fast, and it seems the always-online rumour is getting more credibility.

Adam Orth, a Microsoft creative director, was found Tweeting about how always-online requirement isn?t a big deal and it blew up in a spectacular fashion. This follows a rumour by Kotaku where they revealed that the next Xbox will require Internet connection even to start games.

A developer who goes by the name Mr. Lake on EvilAvatar forums has posted that: ?Given that legally I cannot confirm or deny if this information is true, nor can I comment on rumor or speculation, all I can say is be sure to pay your ISP bills.?

So who is he, actually? Well with a little snooping, it has been revealed that he is a Senior Designer at The Workshop Entertainment. Here?s his LinkedIn profile.

You can also find Mr. Lake?s Xbox profile here. So now even developers are hinting that Microsoft will absolute go with always-online requirement, and considering the highly credible Edge also said the same thing, the Xbox 720 reveal in May should be highly entertaining.

Here?s a screengrab, in case that post gets vaporised.

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http://www.gamechup....your-isp-bills/

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Andagain, those Sony/PS4 announcements mean nothing. nothing how they dance around the issue.

they merely say it "won't block" used games, not that "it won't have used games blocking". basically applying the same logic you guys are applying to the MS rumor I can categorically say that all evidence points to the PS4 having non mandatory used games blocking service, that while not mandatory will be used by virtually all of them.

same thing with their online statement. but hey some people will read rumors with those horse blinder shades on walking down a one way street.

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Yeah, none of those links refute what I said.

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Show me at least one clear source which says games won't work without an Internet connection.

Then it wouldn't be a rumor would it. And I have no idea who actually started it over a year ago. The point is, the rumor has enough traction to be discussion worthy. Trust me, all this negative publicity, if it was not something MS was considering, they would have clearly denied it. Instead, their staff actually makes insulting remarks towards customers saying basically if we do, deal with it.

If you don't believe it, fine. But constantly telling others not to discuss it or it's not worth discussion is kind of silly especially given where we are, an online tech forum where speculation and hypothetical is what gives the forum life. There are pessimist, and optimists, and then there are those whose contribution is to tell others not to voice their opinion.

You're a smart guy, why don't you voice an opinion on what if MS did this? Or Sony for that matter. I personally do believe it is something MS is considering, and I also believe based on the negative feedback across the world from resellers, to publishers, to of course, gamers, that they will not go forward with it this generation. If they do, I would think MS wants to actually exit the console gaming business. Despite well crafted annual financial reports, it's not secret Shareholders have not been pleased with this particular unit over the last few years. With the growth of free-to-play and so many pretty cool games needing Kickstarter programs, I'm not so sure it's the most lucrative business to be in at this time.

Andagain, those Sony/PS4 announcements mean nothing. nothing how they dance around the issue.

they merely say it "won't block" used games, not that "it won't have used games blocking". basically applying the same logic you guys are applying to the MS rumor I can categorically say that all evidence points to the PS4 having non mandatory used games blocking service, that while not mandatory will be used by virtually all of them.

same thing with their online statement. but hey some people will read rumors with those horse blinder shades on walking down a one way street.

That's a stretch in reasoning, even for a rumor. But, the only way for any blocking to work is for both major consoles to include it. If only one does, the one that does will lose this generation of consoles, and that means they will cease to exist. At this point, neither can afford to lose a generation by a significant margin.

And you can kill a rumor with this much traction, with publishers and resellers chiming in. Only Microsoft can do that, and they have actually chosen not to. Not only that, but what they have said through employees, would actually tend to suggest they are testing the waters to see how such a move would be received.

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Then it wouldn't be a rumor would it. And I have no idea who actually started it over a year ago. The point is, the rumor has enough traction to be discussion worthy. Trust me, all this negative publicity, if it was not something MS was considering, they would have clearly denied it. Instead, their staff actually makes insulting remarks towards customers saying basically if we do, deal with it.

If you don't believe it, fine. But constantly telling others not to discuss it or it's not worth discussion is kind of silly especially given where we are, an online tech forum where speculation and hypothetical is what gives the forum life. There are pessimist, and optimists, and then there are those whose contribution is to tell others not to voice their opinion.

You're a smart guy, why don't you voice an opinion on what if MS did this? Or Sony for that matter. I personally do believe it is something MS is considering, and I also believe based on the negative feedback across the world from resellers, to publishers, to of course, gamers, that they will not go forward with it this generation. If they do, I would think MS wants to actually exit the console gaming business. Despite well crafted annual financial reports, it's not secret Shareholders have not been pleased with this particular unit over the last few years. With the growth of free-to-play and so many pretty cool games needing Kickstarter programs, I'm not so sure it's the most lucrative business to be in at this time.

I have voiced my opinion that I don't really care and in any case I am not likely to buy next Xbox at launch (I didn't get a 360 until early 2007).

About the topic at hand, I don't mind it being discussed but as of now it is being discussed in absolutes which is rather strange given that rumors are based on dev kits, which rarely represent retail hardware at this stage.

The guy who tweeted like a moron, I think he was just being dumb and given he works for Studios, should have very little to do with hardware and design. I'd take Major Nelson's reddit posts over any of these rumors. I know that in the end he is just a PR guy but still more trustworthy.

Tl,dr; I don't think MS will do a 3min check but I think they might go for a more steam like model. It has worked well with XBLA and GOD.

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That's a stretch in reasoning, even for a rumor. But, the only way for any blocking to work is for both major consoles to include it. If only one does, the one that does will lose this generation of consoles, and that means they will cease to exist. At this point, neither can afford to lose a generation by a significant margin.

And you can kill a rumor with this much traction, with publishers and resellers chiming in. Only Microsoft can do that, and they have actually chosen not to. Not only that, but what they have said through employees, would actually tend to suggest they are testing the waters to see how such a move would be received.

That's what I've been saying since the start, MS will only block used games if Sony also does it, OR if EA (and eventually a few other major publishers) give them exclusives or timed exclusives while they're the only ones blocking used games.

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By your logic I could say the rumor has less credibility because Major Nelson, the figurehead of Xbox, said yesterday that spending all this time talking about this rumor is a waste of time.

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Andagain, those Sony/PS4 announcements mean nothing. nothing how they dance around the issue.

they merely say it "won't block" used games, not that "it won't have used games blocking". basically applying the same logic you guys are applying to the MS rumor I can categorically say that all evidence points to the PS4 having non mandatory used games blocking service, that while not mandatory will be used by virtually all of them.

same thing with their online statement. but hey some people will read rumors with those horse blinder shades on walking down a one way street.

While there might be truth in that, there is a difference between not enforcing and enforcing on a system wide level.

If you do a bit of research on how the used games market in Japan works, you'll see exactly why Sony aren't implementing a universal used games block. MS don't really care about Japan, so if they do it won't matter to them that performance in Japan will sink even more.

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1) Always-on connectivity is indeed part of the next Xbox, and it was interesting to see this guy confirm that unofficially.

2) He could have been more tactful, but let?s face it, people are way too sensitive online.

3) The biggest issue here, frankly, was the cyberbullying that occurred in the wake of Orth?s comments. Those sensitive people aren?t so sensitive when it comes to other people, that?s for sure. In fact, that?s my exact definition of a bully.

4) Microsoft is only upset about the way this feature was communicated, because it likes to present this kind of thing has a positive, not a negative.

Let?s see what Microsoft has to say about the next Xbox, first in a late May launch event, and then later at both E3 and BUILD 2013, before we make up our minds. Let?s not let one ill-conceived comment ruin what?s going to be an awesome year for Xbox. And yes, it really is going to be awesome.

Folks, the next Xbox is going to require an always-on Internet connection. I don?t know the specifics of what that means, but as I explained on this week?s What The Tech podcast, which was recorded on Friday instead of the usual Tuesday because of my travel earlier in this week, this piece of information had been communicated to me, along with some other relevant tidbits, in January. It?s true.

Will Microsoft change this requirement in the wake of early outrage? Frankly I think we?re too far along in the development process of the next Xbox, codenamed Durango, to make such a change. More to the point, I think that an always-on Xbox is directly in keeping with Microsoft?s strategy for all next-generation platforms, including Windows Phone (all versions) and Windows 8/RT, which are designed to work as if you are simply connected all the time. Yes, they do work offline, of course. But the apps platform on these systems?which will be replicated on the Windows 8-based next Xbox?assumes a connection. Microsoft?s new platforms are integrated conduits for online services.

Lots more here - http://winsupersite...._medium=twitter

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Paul Thurrot

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Lots more here - http://winsupersite...._medium=twitter

The only important point as I said previously,

Folks, the next Xbox is going to require an always-on Internet connection. I don?t know the specifics of what that means

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which are designed to work as if you are simply connected all the time. Yes, they do work offline, of course.

Hey btw, nice to see you posting in Xbox forums again. ;)

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If it's allowing you to install 3rd party apps from a store like on windows and windows phone then having a internet connection is needed or you'll be missing out on apps, but also other services that could tie into it also. That's got nothing to do with needing to be on in order to do anything at all. So in the end connections are being made without enough info.

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I still can't believe how many people are willing to make decisions about consoles based on rumors. Wait till they officially tell you what it is then make a decision. Changing your mind 500 times before its release is pointless as is using stupid crap like this as flak to hate on a console.

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So basically if the rumors are right the next xbox will suck, and if they aren't then those rumors will be irrelevant and the next xbox will turn out to be a nice device, am I right?

Not sure why the couple of threads about this thing are so long.

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I've just been made aware apparently XBLIG's require you to be online at all times? Just some food for thought for those who won't even discuss this as a rumour as it's somehow completely unthinkable.

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If you type it into a fake website, the hacker now has it. With a passkey, you are not typing your secret into the website. Your device is proving you have the matching half without giving the half away. That also helps protect you from fake websites. If someone makes a fake login page that looks like the real site, your device can tell it is not the real match. It will not use your passkey there. Now, could someone use your passkey if they stole your device, got into your password manager, or somehow unlocked the safe that holds your half? Yes, that is why your device password, PIN, fingerprint, face unlock, and password manager security still matter. But a hacker cannot just steal your passkey from the website or trick you into typing it into a fake page like they can with a password. That is why passkeys are safer than passwords. The two matching pieces have to come together, like two lovebirds who were once separated and are finally reunited.
    • Newegg offers insane combo deal on Amazon Prime Day 2026 that beats Steam Machine

      By hellowalkman · Posted

      Newegg offers insane combo deal on Amazon Prime Day 2026 that beats Steam Machine by Sayan Sen Building a PC is undoubtedly difficult nowadays but with this epic combo deal, Newegg is trying to make it as easy for you as it is possible. If you are making a new one or even upgrading an old system to a new Windows 11 device, this combo bundle is truly unmissable as you get AMD's Ryzen 9800X3D, a compatible X870 motherboard, a 240mm AIO liquid cooler and finally a Samsung 990 PRO SSD all for under $1000 (purchase link under the specs table down below). This should beat out the newly launched Steam Machine from Valve in terms of performance and performance per dollar especially if you are willing to set Linux up on it. Essentially with this combo you will get the AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core 3D V cache CPU, Samsung's 990 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD, the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX Motherboard, and finally the Cooler Master Elite Liquid 240. Thanks to that massive vertically stacked L3 cache, the X3D desktop processors, including the 9800X3D, also come with the benefit of not needing fast memory. Even DDR5-5600 should be plenty for it. The technical specifications of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D are given in the table below: Specification Value Architecture Zen 5 Cores / Threads 8 / 16 Base Clock 4.7 GHz Max Boost Clock Up to 5.2 GHz L1 Cache 640 KB L2 Cache 8 MB L3 Cache 96 MB Total Cache 104 MB CPU Core Process TSMC 4nm FinFET I/O Die Process TSMC 6nm FinFET Socket AM5 Default TDP 120W Max Temperature (Tjmax) 95°C Thermal Solution Not included Memory Type DDR5 Max Capacity 256 GB Memory Speeds 2x1R: DDR5-5600 2x2R: DDR5-5600 4x1R: DDR5-3600 4x2R: DDR5-3600 PCIe Version PCIe 5.0 PCIe Lanes (Total/Usable) 28 / 24 USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10Gbps) 4 USB 2.0 1 Graphics Cores 2 CU RDNA 2 Frequency 2200 MHz DisplayPort over USB-C Yes Overclocking Unlocked Up next we have the tech specs for the MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI Motherboard: Specification Value Chipset AMD X870 CPU Support AMD Ryzen 9000 / 8000 / 7000 Series Desktop Processors Socket AM5 Memory Slots 4 × DDR5 UDIMM Maximum Memory Capacity 256GB Memory Support DDR5 8400–5600 MT/s (OC), DDR5 5600–4800 MT/s (JEDEC) Integrated Graphics Outputs 1 × HDMI 2.1 FRL (up to 8K 60Hz) 2 × USB4 Type-C with DisplayPort 1.4 HBR3 (up to 4K 60Hz) Expansion Slots PCI_E1: PCIe 5.0 x16 (CPU) PCI_E2: PCIe 3.0 x1 (Chipset) PCI_E3: PCIe 4.0 x4 (Chipset) Audio Realtek ALC4080 Codec 7.1-Channel USB High Performance Audio Supports up to 32-bit/384kHz playback on front panel S/PDIF output M.2 Slots 4 × M.2 M2_1: PCIe 5.0 x4 (CPU, 22110/2280) M2_2: PCIe 5.0 x4 (CPU, 2280/2260) M2_3: PCIe 4.0 x2 (Chipset, 2280/2260) M2_4: PCIe 4.0 x4 (Chipset, 2280/2260) SATA Ports 4 × SATA 6Gb/s RAID Support RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 for M.2 NVMe storage devices Rear USB Ports 4 × USB 2.0 3 × USB 5Gbps Type-A 2 × USB 10Gbps Type-A 1 × USB 10Gbps Type-C 2 × USB4 40Gbps Type-C Front USB Headers 4 × USB 2.0 4 × USB 5Gbps Type-A 1 × USB 20Gbps Type-C LAN Realtek 8126-CG 5G LAN Wireless Wi-Fi 7 (M.2 Key-E module pre-installed) Supports 2.4GHz / 5GHz / 6GHz bands Up to 5.8Gbps Supports 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax/be Bluetooth Bluetooth 5.4, MLO, 4KQAM Internal Power Connectors 1 × 24-pin ATX Power 2 × CPU Power Connectors 1 × PCIe 8-pin Power Connector Fan Headers 1 × CPU Fan 1 × Combo Fan (Pump/System) 6 × System Fan RGB Headers 3 × Addressable V2 RGB (JARGB_V2) 1 × RGB LED (JRGB) Other Internal Headers 1 × EZ Conn-header 2 × Front Panel Headers 1 × Chassis Intrusion 1 × Front Audio 1 × TPM 2.0 Header Debug Features 4 × EZ Debug LEDs 1 × EZ Digit Debug LED Rear I/O Ports Clear CMOS Button Flash BIOS Button HDMI 2 × USB 40Gbps Type-C 1 × USB 10Gbps Type-C 4 × USB 10Gbps Type-A 3 × USB 5Gbps Type-A 4 × USB 2.0 5G LAN Port Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Antenna Connectors Audio Connectors Form Factor ATX The Samsung 990 PRO is a PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD and still one of the fastest drives available today for under $500. Speaking of fast, sequential reads and writes are rated at 7450 MB/s and 6900 MB/s, respectively. The random throughputs for reads and writes are 1400K IOPS and 1550K IOPS, respectively. The 990 PRO is based on Samsung's 7th Gen V-NAND flash, and it too is TLC. It packs 2 gigs of LPDDR4 DRAM cache, which helps the random performance. The endurance rating for this is 1200 TBW (terabytes written), which should be sufficient for most users. The Samsung 990 PRO is compatible with the PlayStation 5, but if you are going to use the 990 PRO on a PC, check out the Samsung Magician app that lets you track your drive's health, update its firmware, customize various settings, and more. The tech specs are given below: Specification Value Interface PCIe Gen 4.0 x4, NVMe 2.0 Form Factor M.2 2280 Controller Samsung In-house Controller NAND Flash 3D TLC DRAM Cache 2GB LPDDR4 Sequential Read (Max) 7,450 MB/s Sequential Write (Max) 6,900 MB/s Random Read (4K) Up to 1,400,000 IOPS Random Write (4K) Up to 1,550,000 IOPS TBW (Endurance) 1,200 TBW MTBF 1,500,000 hours Operating Temperature 0°C to 70°C Storage Temperature -40°C to 85°C Shock Resistance 1,500G / 0.5ms Heatsink No Get the combo deal at this link: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, Samsung 990 PRO 2TB, MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard, Cooler Master Elite Liquid 240: $784.99 + $25 off with promo code FTTF77: $759.99 (Sold and Shipped by Newegg US) Good to know This Newegg deal is U.S. specific, and not available in other regions unless specified. We only use first-party seller links (at the time of article publishing); ensure that you purchase from a first-party seller link only. 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