AutoPatcher December Update Wishlist

[FlishFun Veteran]

Can't wait for the December release..gonna be much cooler than the November

Yes it is! :D

@warriv666 - I'll include all the SysInternals stuff, but it'll be most likely in the bonus pack. :D

[akaladis Veteran]

mipra, that damn right :D i assume jason wont forget old stuff in there... if everything turns out as planned, december released will be the fastest, neatest, greatest (hehe, if not, what else!?) release of AutoPatcher yet :D

I believe TDI will help many of you customizers :D, and Im sure you will appreciate all the minor new stuff we added...

/Raptor

[ArgoN]

well... most of those mean "Install Silently" for different hotfixes/programs...

/Raptor

:cry: this is not enough

please please can you explain each parameter ?? or a link ??

ahah look here is suggestion: you may add a file explaining each parameter ? ;)

thanks

[akaladis Veteran]

well... i was never involved in windows update switches, so i suppose Jason will be able to explain them a little... however, you can always look over at Microsoft KnowledgeBase... just bring up the page for any specific update you are looking for, and it will list all switches, and what each one of them does

/Raptor

[FlishFun Veteran]

well... most of those mean "Install Silently" for different hotfixes/programs...

/Raptor

:cry: this is not enough

please please can you explain each parameter ?? or a link ??

ahah look here is suggestion: you may add a file explaining each parameter ? ;)

thanks

Every program comes with different switches installed that will do different things. Microsoft Windows Hotfixes, for example have these:

/? Display the list of installation switches.
/u Unattended mode.
/f Force other programs to quit when the computer shuts down.
/n Do not back up files for removal.
/o Overwrite OEM files without prompting.
/z Do not restart when installation is complete.
/q Quiet mode (no user interaction).
/l List installed hotfixes.
/x Extracts the files without running Setup.

But Internet Explorer updates have these

/q ? ? ?Specifies quiet mode, or suppresses prompts. 
/q:u ? ?Specifies user-quiet mode, which presents some dialog boxes to the user. 
/q:a ? ?Specifies administrator-quiet mode. 
/t:path Specifies the target folder for extracting files. 
/c ? ? ?Extracts the files without installing them. 
/c:path Specifies the UNC path and name of the Setup .inf or .exe file. 
/r:n ? ?Never restarts the computer after installation. 
/r:i ? ?Prompts the user to restart the computer if a restart is required. 
/r:a ? ?Always restarts the computer after installation. 
/r:s ? ?Restarts the computer after installation without prompting the user. 
/n:v ? ?No version checking - Install the package over any previous version.

As you can see, they're very different. Every program has a different set of switches. It would take a very long time for me to post every one, most can be found just by looking it up on Google or :)e programs site. :)

[new_duxie]

just wondering if Microsofts regclean 4.1a would be any good for this system, it hasn't been updated in a while but for those who want to stick to microsoft only progs for new systems going out to customers it does a half decent job and i'm assuming its better than nothing, i mean ideally i would like Norton Windoctor included but we all know thats "piracy". does anyone know of any windows xp compatibility issues with regclean it just says win95 or higher in the readme.

[FlishFun Veteran]

just wondering if Microsofts regclean 4.1a would be any good for this system, it hasn't been updated in a while but for those who want to stick to microsoft only progs for new systems going out to customers it does a half decent job and i'm assuming its better than nothing, i mean ideally i would like Norton Windoctor included but we all know thats "piracy". does anyone know of any windows xp compatibility issues with regclean it just says win95 or higher in the readme.

Post a direct link to it and I'll download it and test it. :)

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Don't forget Macromedia Flash and Shockwave players.

I already figured them out so hey flish give me a shout and I'll just upload the files to you.

[ArgoN]

@FlishFun

thanks very much for the explanation :happy:

[Metal Head]

Post a direct link to it and I'll download it and test it. :)

Download link for Regclean :)

[FlishFun Veteran]

,Nov 24 2003, 02:12] Download link for Regclean :)

Thanks!

@Kelsenellenelvian - I didn't forget, don't worry. :D

@ArgoN - No prob man. (Y)

[Carey934]

just wondering if Microsofts regclean 4.1a would be any good for this system, it hasn't been updated in a while but for those who want to stick to microsoft only progs for new systems going out to customers it does a half decent job and i'm assuming its better than nothing, i mean ideally i would like Norton Windoctor included but we all know thats "piracy". does anyone know of any windows xp compatibility issues with regclean it just says win95 or higher in the readme.

RegClean 4.1a is *NOT* for Windows XP. It is only intended for Win95/98/Me.

[Carey934]

I wish only the critical updates were selected automatically by AP. It's a pain to de-select the Bonus stuff and the PowerToys. I want to build them clean. It makes more sense to me to select all the updates automatically and let the user choose which other things they want. And why are both Java's selected by default (MS and Sun?) Can't you just use one or the other? I always disable SUN, and keep the MS. I don't understand why they are both selected by default.

Also, another suggestion for a reg tweak:

Problem: How can I increase performance with Windows XP?

Possible Solution: Disable Kernal paging using the following regedit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\CONTROL\SESSION MANAGER\Memory Management.

Click on the Memory Management folder and right-click the LargeSystemCache entry. Select Modify, and type 1 in the Value Data field.

If you have 512MB or more of RAM, you should also locate the DisablePagingExecutive entry and ensure it is set to 1 as well. (This setting keeps as much information as possible loaded into RAM rather than to the swap file.)

[FlishFun Veteran]

@Carey934:

Thanks for the clearup on RegClean 4.1a, I hadn't downloaded it yet, and I had never used it before so I didn't know. So thank you! :)

As far as why the recommended updates and some Regtweaks are automatically selected, it's because a lot of newbies out there don't even know they exist, and I think they're all good things. If you don't like them, the first time you startup AutoPatcher just select what you'd want and hit "Save as Defaults". It will change the AutoPatcher.dat file and from then on it will have your defaults instead of mine. Easy fix. :) Oh, and the reason I have both javas selected is because if I select neither, some people won't know to choose one. Others can pick their preference. I know there's no harm in installing both, so that's why I have them both checked. :)

[itsnotabigtruck]

APDBE is coming along. :) I've pretty much got everything in except open/save. :p

[FlishFun Veteran]

APDBE is coming along. :) I've pretty much got everything in except open/save. :p

APDBE? AutoPatcher D____ B____ E_____? lol Fill in the blanks for me. :)

[itsnotabigtruck]

ata se ditor

[FlishFun Veteran]

ata se ditor

AutoPatcher Data B_se Editor

I'd like to buy a vowel, Pat. :p

On a serious note, you gots to let me check that out when you get it at least in a Beta stage, or somethin'. :)

[itsnotabigtruck]

@FlishFun: What values in the database determine that the [Entry] is a category or item? Thanks in advance.

[FlishFun Veteran]

@FlishFun: What values in the database determine that the [Entry] is a category or item? Thanks in advance.

Catagories do not have a Target, TargetNoBackup, or Website. Items do. That's all really. :) If you want more info (or wanna just talk via IM), let me know. :D

[itsnotabigtruck]

Catagories do not have a Target, TargetNoBackup, or Website. Items do. That's all really. :) If you want more info (or wanna just talk via IM), let me know. :D

Thanks. I'll detect based on the presence of Target. :)

[FlishFun Veteran]

Thanks. I'll detect based on the presence of Target. :)

Good deal. (Y) Can't wait to check this out. :)

[Twisted Maniac]

is it possible to let the autopatcher detect what updates are necesarry on the pc and then selects them from the list?

that way u only install the needed updates :p (somewhat like WU yes....but this time u allready have the patches 'n stuff :p)

(dunno if some1 allready suggested it...havn't read all the 30 pages of this topic...4give me :p)

is this an idea or just plain stupid?

[akaladis Veteran]

memodude, im doing a simple DBE too :D However... are you coding this in VB? If so... maybe i could give you the original source code to read/write to and from database files... that way you wont have any weird problem with some database files...

/Raptor

[akaladis Veteran]

@Twisted Maniac: thats already done in december