AutoPatcher December Update Wishlist

[Twisted Maniac]

oki :)....so it is to come? :p (it isn't december yet :p

with a check-up button or smth? :p

[FlishFun Veteran]

oki :)....so it is to come? :p (it isn't december yet :p

with a check-up button or smth? :p

Not a checkup button, per se. Upon starting it automatically checks for you. :)

[akaladis Veteran]

its plugged in by default :D

[aitf311]

If you can, please add a button...or a bat that deletes all the files that you dont have checked for default....this way if we want to put it on a cd for unattended install, it can still fit on the cd...

this is...the precise reason why no one at msfn likes this program...and if you could add this, the 'bloatedness' would go way down....

[FlishFun Veteran]

If you can, please add a button...or a bat that deletes all the files that you dont have checked for default....this way if we want to put it on a cd for unattended install, it can still fit on the cd...

this is...the precise reason why no one at msfn likes this program...and if you could add this, the 'bloatedness' would go way down....

Well, it's not that hard to manually delete the files themselves. I'll be including documentation for it as well. As far as a button to do so, I'm not for sure how that would work. You'd think the fine folks at MSFN would know how to remove the files themselves, or at least ask me. I've helped a few people do it. :)

[itsnotabigtruck]

Well, it's not that hard to manually delete the files themselves. I'll be including documentation for it as well. As far as a button to do so, I'm not for sure how that would work. You'd think the fine folks at MSFN would know how to remove the files themselves, or at least ask me. I've helped a few people do it. :)

Yeah, they would just come up with another reason AP is "bloated". MSFN's content is OK, they did that unattended CD guide with switches for all the apps, but they're mean to Neowin and Neowin-sponsored projects like AP, and I don't like that.

[FlishFun Veteran]

Yeah, they would just come up with another reason AP is "bloated". MSFN's content is OK, they did that unattended CD guide with switches for all the apps, but they're mean to Neowin and Neowin-sponsored projects like AP, and I don't like that.

Now now, no MSFN bashing. We all know they don't like us, and if they want to hate the AutoPatcher, they can. It's their right.

[aitf311]

Well, it's not that hard to manually delete the files themselves. I'll be including documentation for it as well. As far as a button to do so, I'm not for sure how that would work. You'd think the fine folks at MSFN would know how to remove the files themselves, or at least ask me. I've helped a few people do it. :)

Im not asking for them, Im asking for me. It wouldnt be that hard to manually delete them, if I knew which ones werent being used...a lot of the installers use more than one file...

[aitf311]

Yeah, they would just come up with another reason AP is "bloated". MSFN's content is OK, they did that unattended CD guide with switches for all the apps, but they're mean to Neowin and Neowin-sponsored projects like AP, and I don't like that.

Yea I wish the two communities could work together on something like this, cause personally I think they have tons more knowledge in this subject, but neowin has the people willing to stick it out and get it done...quickly. At least they can talk about neowin there...here if you talk about their project you get a locked thread....dont mean to be disrespectful when saying that, just saying this is a forum...

[FlishFun Veteran]

Yea I wish the two communities could work together on something like this, cause personally I think they have tons more knowledge in this subject, but neowin has the people willing to stick it out and get it done...quickly. At least they can talk about neowin there...here if you talk about their project you get a locked thread....dont mean to be disrespectful when saying that, just saying this is a forum...

Well I just would rather not get into it here. You could always post a thread about it in the Soapbox. :)

Im not asking for them, Im asking for me. It wouldnt be that hard to manually delete them, if I knew which ones werent being used...a lot of the installers use more than one file...

Well I'll include documentation, and you can always tell what files are being used by looking in the bat files. Don't worry, I'll make sure you'll be able to do it. :)

[aitf311]

yea i know i could go through the bats....just saying 40+ is a bit excessive to sniff through. i guess the delete thing would be pretty tough to do though....

[FlishFun Veteran]

yea i know i could go through the bats....just saying 40+ is a bit excessive to sniff through. i guess the delete thing would be pretty tough to do though....

Don't worry, I'll try to come up with something. I may make a file containing which selections go with which files or somethin'. I'll see what I can do. :)

[archish]

I wish fb2k 0.7.4 the case's special installer version, opera 7.24 or maybe firebird 0.7

[FlishFun Veteran]

I wish fb2k 0.7.4 the case's special installer version, opera 7.24 or maybe firebird 0.7

Hmmm... I can tell you those won't be in the main version, but depending on size, they may be in the bonus pack... or (most likely) there will just be instructions on how to add it to the install itself. :)

[itsnotabigtruck]

memodude, im doing a simple DBE too :D However... are you coding this in VB? If so... maybe i could give you the original source code to read/write to and from database files... that way you wont have any weird problem with some database files...

/Raptor

I'm doing it with VB.NET. Mine is almost done, once you test it could you include it with AP? I could also do a little VB6 wrapper that will check for the .NET Framework and invoke the setup in the AP folder. I know that invoking the .NET Framework setup (for example, the user starts APDBE then installs the framework via AP) will just cause it to start, detect that the framework is already there, and exits.

Could you please e-mail me your database code? I could run it through the fragment upgrader and make it work under .NET. Thanks a lot.

[FlishFun Veteran]

I'm doing it with VB.NET. Mine is almost done, once you test it could you include it with AP? I could also do a little VB6 wrapper that will check for the .NET Framework and invoke the setup in the AP folder. I know that invoking the .NET Framework setup (for example, the user starts APDBE then installs the framework via AP) will just cause it to start, detect that the framework is already there, and exits.

Could you please e-mail me your database code? I could run it through the fragment upgrader and make it work under .NET. Thanks a lot.

It sounds great, and if it works I think there shouldn't be a prob with including it. :)

As far as the code, do you mean the code to the AutoPatcher, the code to the DBE Raptor was working on, or the Database itself? lol

[itsnotabigtruck]

It sounds great, and if it works I think there shouldn't be a prob with including it. :)

As far as the code, do you mean the code to the AutoPatcher, the code to the DBE Raptor was working on, or the Database itself? lol

Database read code in AP. So the user can open the main AP database (October and November releases) or a user database powered by TDI they have already worked on (December and later releases).

[acetken]

If possible, make the next edition mark the updates as completed so when I got to Windows Update, it doesn't display a whole crapload new. Please?

[FlishFun Veteran]

If possible, make the next edition mark the updates as completed so when I got to Windows Update, it doesn't display a whole crapload new. Please?

Hmm... it should have done that in the last version. Well, I know the Dec Update is fine... though I'd like to know more about what you said happened.

[itsnotabigtruck]

Hmm... it should have done that in the last version. Well, I know the Dec Update is fine... though I'd like to know more about what you said happened.

Nah, I think he just means the 6 or so post-November updates.

[FlishFun Veteran]

Nah, I think he just means the 6 or so post-November updates.

Ah, then in that case, yep, they'll be in the Dec Update. :D

[Carey934]

@Carey934:

Thanks for the clearup on RegClean 4.1a, I hadn't downloaded it yet, and I had never used it before so I didn't know. So thank you! :)

As far as why the recommended updates and some Regtweaks are automatically selected, it's because a lot of newbies out there don't even know they exist, and I think they're all good things. If you don't like them, the first time you startup AutoPatcher just select what you'd want and hit "Save as Defaults". It will change the AutoPatcher.dat file and from then on it will have your defaults instead of mine. Easy fix. :) Oh, and the reason I have both javas selected is because if I select neither, some people won't know to choose one. Others can pick their preference. I know there's no harm in installing both, so that's why I have them both checked. :)

How can it save as default, when I am loading it from CD-ROM?

[akaladis Veteran]

@Carey934: when running from a read-only media you cant save as defaults... thats one thing you need to do before burning...

[Twisted Maniac]

hmmzz...i think it would be a good idea to add a "search 'n destroy" button :p

this or these button(s) should have the following functions:

- detect the updates allready installed on the system

- remove those from the list + an option to fysically delete them...

*really hoping this is possible (or not allready said)*

* a detection that is like the WU detection...it checks the system for the current system configuration and then auto selects the needed updates and hides(or fade away) the updates that do not apply to the system configuration, or that are allready installed.

[evolver]

Can you please make a Dutch version of this awesome tool?

Or can you provide me with instruction to make such a version?

Thanx.