Kotaku Rumor: Microsoft 6 months behind in game production for Durango

[TheLegendOfMart]

We've heard from other sources that Microsoft is not where they want to be at this point in the pre-launch development of Durango. A reliable source?one who was not part of our reporting about the Respawn game?tells us that Microsoft is as much as six months behind in producing content for the new console, despite an expected late-2013 launch. Another tells us that Microsoft recently cancelled several internal next-gen projects because they were not coming together as hoped. These sources have told us that, comparatively, Sony is in better shape and further along with hardware and software development for PlayStation 4.

We'd also heard from an industry insider that Microsoft was aggressively trying to sign exclusive games for Durango. Given the lack of internal development at Microsoft?their internal studios, while talented, are outnumbered by those of Sony and Nintendo?and given some of the apparent recent stumbles and slowdowns internally, signing an exclusive Respawn-EA game would suit the Durango quite well.

This is just a trainwreck waiting to happen, I really hope all these rumours are false because its all Sony needs to start being complacent again.

Typical Microsoft though throwing money about to try and save themselves, its what they get for shutting a lot of their internal dev teams.

[HawkMan]

Seems highly unlikely. MS has been very strict and rigid about their launch deadlines on console launches and they know what it takes to develop. especially when you know how much can be done in game development in 6 months.

third party exclusives is a good bet though, especially since it's already known MS is tying down a lot of exclusives for launch, rumored to get a bunch of timeds for EA and respawns new game is supposed to be xbox only. Same strategy they employed with the 360, buy a lot of exclusives early in the life of the console.

[TheLegendOfMart]

There is anecdotal evidence all over GAF, a poster who is in the industry has a dev friend who is working on a Durango title says that the dev kits run really hot, Microsoft is struggling to get the hardware tied down properly, that coupled with games behind schedule is why they haven't said anything and why the reveal was pushed back.

Black Tusk who used to be MGS Vancouver is rumoured to be working on Ryse with Crytek is way behind schedule.

[HawkMan]

So far everything everyone posts is "anecdotal evidence". we like to call him click farming.

[TheLegendOfMart]

He is a "respected" poster who has given us a lot of correct information on Durango and PS4 before the actual hardware leaks. He isn't advertising anything, he is under NDAs himself.

[HawkMan]

I mean seriously, and I think they mean a poster who says he is.

There is anecdotal evidence all over GAF, a poster who is in the industry has a dev friend who is working on a Durango title says that the dev kits run really hot, Microsoft is struggling to get the hardware tied down properly, that coupled with games behind schedule is why they haven't said anything and why the reveal was pushed back.

Black Tusk who used to be MGS Vancouver is rumoured to be working on Ryse with Crytek is way behind schedule.

Ryse has been behind schedule for 1-2 years already, it was supposed to be an early 360 kinect title.... so that doesn't mean the new next xbox version is behind.

[TheLegendOfMart]

Scheduled yes but Black Tusk was only formed late last year, if its not Ryse whatever game they are working on is way behind schedule. Ryse has rumoured to have gone from kinect only to a full AAA title.

A couple of other known third party developers on GAF are corroborating the information, its supposedly well known within dev circles about overheating dev kits.

[HawkMan]

Scheduled yes but Black Tusk was only formed late last year, if its not Ryse whatever game they are working on is way behind schedule. Ryse has rumoured to have gone from kinect only to a full AAA title.

that's what I meant with when they changed from 360 kinect to next xbox.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

"Other sources", "Industry insider"...

As soon as I hear such terms I completely disregard an article.

[TheLegendOfMart]

NeoGAF is a little different, there are numerous first and third party developers as well as other people attached to the industry that have a proven track record of giving out correct information.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Sorry, disagree. Yes they have a good track record, but without a source, a quote is meaningless to me!

[dead.cell]

Microsoft will just throw money at the problem if anything; they've done pretty well with that before.

[HawkMan]

It's still only a kinect only title though, and it was a AAA title before as well.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

It's still only a kinect only title though, and it was a AAA title before as well.

New rumours suggest it's not Kinect only.

As for respawn rumour it's going to take more than yet another MP FPS game to get a lot of jaded gamers excited. I wouldn't be throwing all my money at the dudebro generation.

[HawkMan]

NeoGAF is a little different, there are numerous first and third party developers as well as other people attached to the industry that have a proven track record of giving out correct information.

Problem is that people give you 20 pieces of information, 3 of them turns out to be, well mostly true. at that point the other 17 guesses are forgotten about and the user is considered an insider genius who knows everything....

New rumours suggest it's not Kinect only.

As for respawn rumour it's going to take more than yet another MP FPS game to get a lot of jaded gamers excited. I wouldn't be throwing all my money at the dudebro generation.

we don't even know what game it will be yet. and I like how you take the claim that Sony says we won't have just FPS games(wow... captain obvious wants his uniform back) to mean that the xbox will have only FPS games. despite having the largest library of JRPG's last gen, simply because the first 3-4 year they bought every JRPG exclusive there was.

but yeah, I'm sure MS. who has been the one to show most interest in diversifying is going to be releasing only FPS games next gen.

the may announcement and E3 is going to be pretty awesome this year I think. holiday season and 2014 is going to be massive for gamers I Suspect.

[TheLegendOfMart]

Whereas someone like you who has no credibility are suddenly a master on the subject..........

[HawkMan]

Never said it. Merely said dont trust every rumor like this. Unlike you.... So should I throw tha insult back at you, or I are we grow ups ?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I think you might want to rethink the JRPG comment at this point in the generation.

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This is just a trainwreck waiting to happen, I really hope all these rumours are false because its all Sony needs to start being complacent again.

Typical Microsoft though throwing money about to try and save themselves, its what they get for shutting a lot of their internal dev teams.

A die hard Playstation fan posting negative news about (without sources) the upcoming Xbox while saying that the playstation is in a better position just doesn't seem like a shock to me.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

A die hard Playstation fan posting negative news about (without sources) the upcoming Xbox while saying that the playstation is in a better position just doesn't seem like a shock to me.

Do not know why he left it out - http://kotaku.com/the-next-gen-xbox-is-getting-a-hell-of-an-exclusive-so-484785241

[BajiRav]

Gaah...3 more weeks! This rumor sounds unlikely because how tight the Xbox train runs but we will see soon I guess.

This is just a trainwreck waiting to happen, I really hope all these rumours are false because its all Sony needs to start being complacent again.

Typical Microsoft though throwing money about to try and save themselves, its what they get for shutting a lot of their internal dev teams.

So sony buying studios/games to make PS3/4 exclusives is "good for gamers" whereas Microsoft buying games for Xbox exclusives is "typical money throwing Microsoft". You are not biased I say, not at all.

Do not know why he left it out - http://kotaku.com/the-next-gen-xbox-is-getting-a-hell-of-an-exclusive-so-484785241

May be because he changed the article title: "The Next-Gen Xbox Is Getting a Hell of an Exclusive, Sources Say" to what we have now. (skimming article makes me think he also took 1 small part of it and turned into this thread).

Edit: Wow. Now I know why stopped reading Kotaku. Not only they speculate rumors like facts but the author somehow implies that Durango is bad because it will require online connection for playing a multiplayer only game.

[TheLegendOfMart]

A die hard Playstation fan posting negative news about (without sources) the upcoming Xbox while saying that the playstation is in a better position just doesn't seem like a shock to me.

I like it when people try to pigeonhole you into certain camps.

I got both 360 and PS3 at launch and for most of this generation I have been pro-Xbox. PS2 was popular and Sony got arrogant, it was only by sheer luck that Blu-ray won the format war and saved the PS3.

PS4 seems to be turning it around with its developer/consumer focus, I have already stated I am open to getting both, either or neither of the consoles depending on how the services and requirements play out.

At this point there are more negative rumours than there are positive for the Xbox, I don't see how I'm a die hard Playstation fan for posting negative news. I go where the games are, at the moment I like Playstation first party games more than I do Xbox.

Three days ago I turned my PS3 on for the first time in over a month, if that's a die hard Playstation fan then somethings gone wrong.

Not that I have to justify myself to you.

Gaah...3 more weeks! This rumor sounds unlikely because how tight the Xbox train runs but we will see soon I guess.

Unlikely but a lot of posters on NeoGAF who are actual developers are corroborating the information.

So sony buying studios/games to make PS3/4 exclusives is "good for gamers" whereas Microsoft buying games for Xbox exclusives is "typical money throwing Microsoft". You are not biased I say, not at all.

Never said it was "good for gamers", sick of people putting words into my mouth, I HATE exclusive games for any platform it doesn't benefit the gamer one iota.

My point was if all this turns out to be true all Microsoft has to do is throw its money about, they have more than Sony, to save itself just look at the RROD fiasco.

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I like it when people try to pigeonhole you into certain camps.

I got both 360 and PS3 at launch and for most of this generation I have been pro-Xbox. PS2 was popular and Sony got arrogant, it was only by sheer luck that Blu-ray won the format war and saved the PS3.

PS4 seems to be turning it around with its developer/consumer focus, I have already stated I am open to getting both, either or neither of the consoles depending on how the services and requirements play out.

At this point there are more negative rumours than there are positive for the Xbox, I don't see how I'm a die hard Playstation fan for posting negative news. I go where the games are, at the moment I like Playstation first party games more than I do Xbox.

Three days ago I turned my PS3 on for the first time in over a month, if that's a die hard Playstation fan then somethings gone wrong.

Not that I have to justify myself to you.

Unlikely but a lot of posters on NeoGAF who are actual developers are corroborating the information.

First off you should stop lying. Since when do you have both Xbox and ps3? I remember you saying you will never buy an Xbox so how come now out the blue you have both consoles and to top it off you even claim to be "mostly" pro-Xbox?? We must be living in two different worlds up to this point.

And no you don't need to justify yourself to me. But you should know that the Internet has a way of keeping track of certain things.

[HawkMan]

I think you might want to rethink the JRPG comment at this point in the generation.

Well after all the exclusives the majority of JRPGs where multiplatform. the few that weren't didn't really skew the platform much, at most they balanced it.

You missed the point of course, though.

[TheLegendOfMart]

First off you should stop lying. Since when do you have both Xbox and ps3? I remember you saying you will never buy an Xbox so how come now out the blue you have both consoles and to top it off you even claim to be "mostly" pro-Xbox?? We must be living in two different worlds up to this point.

And no you don't need to justify yourself to me. But you should know that the Internet has a way of keeping track of certain things.

Why would I keep a console I don't play on?

I got both at launch, PS3 sat collecting dust and Xbox was my main console, then I switched to PS3 and sold my Xbox. Where have I ever said that I'd never get an xbox????

For some reason its not tracking all the way back to 2006 but this is my gamertag, so whos lying?

http://www.xboxgamer...helegendofmart/