PS4 hard drive is user replaceable

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

So where is that Neowin member who spent posts arguing with me and finally ended with wonder what Sony fans will say when Sony do the same as MS.....

[TheLegendOfMart]

Avoiding PS4 threads by looks of it.

Great news, but means I have to find another ?100+ for a big SSD :(

Hope 256GB will be big enough to start with.

[HawkMan]

Chances are due to the design of the console adding a SSD will be a waste of money and you won't get any actual increased performance of it, well SSD don't actually increase performance anyway, but chance are you won't get the perceived increased performance of faster loading times either.

[TheLegendOfMart]

It's a console designed about loading games from HDD, I'd be surprised if it didn't speed it up.

[Haggis Veteran]

The board supports sata 3 so there will be some performance increase over a 7200rpm drive

[spaceelf]

perceived

Two things:

1: You're on crack.

2: You're on crack.

[Ian W]

Chances are due to the design of the console adding a SSD will be a waste of money and you won't get any actual increased performance of it, well SSD don't actually increase performance anyway, but chance are you won't get the perceived increased performance of faster loading times either.

...SSD doesn't increase performance...?

[spaceelf]

Chances are due to the design of the console adding a SSD will be a waste of money and you won't get any actual increased performance of it, well SSD don't actually increase performance anyway, but chance are you won't get the perceived increased performance of faster loading times either.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-rift-ssd,3062-12.html

enjoy

[the better twin]

well SSD don't actually increase performance anyway,

ha ha ha ha ha ha oh wow.

[MindTrickz]

Chances are due to the design of the console adding a SSD will be a waste of money and you won't get any actual increased performance of it, well SSD don't actually increase performance anyway, but chance are you won't get the perceived increased performance of faster loading times either.

LOL! Are you for real? I know you are a Xbone one fan, but come on. Off course Solid-State Drives would offer increased performances Hard Disk Drives. Especially over 7200rpm drives.

[TheLegendOfMart]

Before you all jump on him, I think he means with regards to consoles, I know putting an SSD in PS3 didn't do diddly squat but then games weren't fully stored on on the HDD.

[spaceelf]

LOL! Are you for real? I know you are a Xbone one fan, but come on. Off course SDD would offer increased performances. Especially over 7200rpm drives.

I'm also an X1 fan. I intend to get a USB3 SSD for it at some point.

[44MLX]

Would an external hard drive work?

[+virtorio MVC]

Chances are due to the design of the console adding a SSD will be a waste of money and you won't get any actual increased performance of it, well SSD don't actually increase performance anyway, but chance are you won't get the perceived increased performance of faster loading times either.

Yeah, well, we shall see.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Before you call jump on him, I think he means with regards to consoles, I know putting an SSD in PS3 didn't do diddly squat but then games weren't fully stored on on the HDD.

The motherboard of the PS3 probably couldn't max a SSD. There was a difference still, but it wasn't worth the price ratio back in 2006 when the PS3 launched.

[spaceelf]

Would an external hard drive work?

According to the interwebs, yes

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-hard-drive/

Considering it's running a proper OS I'd be shocked if it wasn't just plug it in format and go.

[the better twin]

I'm also an X1 fan. I intend to get a USB3 SSD for it at some point.

Pointless. Xbone HDD cant be replaced as per the usual Microsoft shafting.

[spaceelf]

Pointless. Xbone HDD cant be replaced as per the usual Microsoft shafting.

At what point did I say I was replacing the built in one? I can install games on the external.

[the better twin]

At what point did I say I was replacing the built in one? I can install games on the external.

Again, pointless. The usb3 connection would be the bottleneck.

[TheLegendOfMart]

USB3 is pretty fast, it will bottleneck some SATA3 SSDs but should be more than enough.

[ingramator]

LOL! Are you for real? I know you are a Xbone one fan, but come on. Off course Solid-State Drives would offer increased performances Hard Disk Drives. Especially over 7200rpm drives.

Yeah try it in a PS3 then tell me. Stop acting like you know stuff when you are clearly talking out of your back side. He is not arguing that it won't account to better performance but merely that it won't be visible for end users, as with the PS3 (Which I incidentally have experimented with).anyone that thinks popping an SSD in a console is going to magically make everything faster- think again. HDD speeds are EASILY fast enough to handle OS and game start ups with the amount of direct RAM bandwidth and storage they are getting and this is coming from an SSD "fanboy".

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Remember we are talking about a PS4 here which is a modern x86 architecture. Completely different from the PS3.

[ingramator]

Again, pointless. The usb3 connection would be the bottleneck.

HAHAHAHAHA you have got to be joking right? EVEN if it was a massive bottleneck that rendered it useless, SSDs have other things going for them.

[dead.cell]

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[spaceelf]

Again, pointless. The usb3 connection would be the bottleneck.

USB3s bottleneck is pretty damn close to SATAs. You're talking around 500 megs a second vs around 550 with protocol overhead, so not really no.

HDD speeds are EASILY fast enough to handle OS and game start ups with the amount of direct RAM bandwidth and storage they are getting and this is coming from an SSD "fanboy".

of course they can...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-rift-ssd,3062-12.html

...very slowly

I feel like I posted that link before ;)