New build, need some advices

[guitmz]

Hello all! After a while I've decided to build another machine for me. It won't be anything godlike but it will be ok I guess.

 

So far, I bought only the CPU and case, which are:

 

***** Keep in mind before suggesting high end parts that I live in Brazil and if you watch the news, you'll see that everything pretty much sucks around here so price IS a problem

 

 

CPU: AMD FX-8320 ($250 usd) - don't flame me for getting AMD. After a while using Intel I've decided to give AMD a try again (my laptop is still intel btw)

 

Case: V3 BLACK AMD EDITION VL800P1W2N THERMALTAKE ($100 usd)

 

 

Now I have questions on these left parts (I did not bought those yet):

 

 

PSU: I'm thinking in getting the Sentey ATX 700W BRP700 ($170 usd) should I? It's 700w for a good price so...

 

Coolers: I'll just grab 3 AKASA ones - the case comes with 1 already ($10 usd each)

 

MB: Asus M5A97 PRO is a good idea? ($230 usd) I need usb 3 and the eSata already available are a plus, not to mention that it seems really stable

 

RAM: I'll just get standard Kingston 2x4GB 1333mhz ($60 usd each) as the high end ones are out of budget

 

GPU: Tricky... 7870HD or GTX 660? (both are something like $450 usd here)

 

 

**** EDIT:The GPU is important because my monitor will be the  LG - 29EA93 LED 29" Ultra Wide, 2560x1080 and the GPU should be able to deal with that resolution.

 

Any suggestions would be nice :)

Thanks a lot!

[torrentthief]

are you not able to import components from america from amazon.com or something?

[Astra.Xtreme]

You should provide us with the website you'll be ordering from, so we can give you links.

Otherwise it will be hard for us to help since the prices on Newegg or Amazon won't be the same prices you'll be able to get.

[mduren2445]

well before opinions can be offered ...whats the machine for??? internet surfing ...gaming????  auto cad ????

[guitmz]

are you not able to import components from america from amazon.com or something?

No :( I can only import products that has value lower than 50 USD. Otherwise, I'll be charged 60% of the total value (incl shipping) - Brazil sucks

You should provide us with the website you'll be ordering from, so we can give you links.

Otherwise it will be hard for us to help since the prices on Newegg or Amazon won't be the same prices you'll be able to get.

The websites are from my country so they are in portuguese.. If you want to, I can provide you :)

well before opinions can be offered ...whats the machine for??? internet surfing ...gaming????  auto cad ????

Movies, Internet. Programming, Gaming (mostly). No auto cad, PS or anything like that

[ashpowell]

This comparison for gpu may help you decide - http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7870-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

[guitmz]

This comparison for gpu may help you decide - http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7870-vs-GeForce-GTX-660

 

 

Cool, I was liking the 7870 better hehe.. The only concern with it is the Linux compatibility (for general proposes)

[guitmz]

What about that PSU? Anyone used that brand already?

[Luc2k]

What about that PSU? Anyone used that brand already?

Never heard of that brand and the 700W are overkill for that setup. I'd go with 550W if you don't intend to add a second card eventually. You should check this site for reviews.

 

RAM seems a bit expensive. How much is a 2x4GB 1600MHz CL9 Kit?

[guitmz]

Never heard of that brand and the 700W are overkill for that setup. I'd go with 550W if you don't intend to add a second card eventually. You should check this site for reviews.

 

RAM seems a bit expensive. How much is a 2x4GB 1600MHz CL9 Kit?

 

RAM = 93 usd each

 

So i wont need more than 550w for single GPU there?

 

There is this: Corsair 600w - CMPSU-600CXV2 ($143 USD)

[Luc2k]

RAM = 93 usd each

 

So i wont need more than 550w for single GPU there?

 

There is this: Corsair 600w - CMPSU-600CXV2 ($143 USD)

550W is enough as long as it's a good quality PSU. Are there any Seasonic M12II 620W or 650W available? (there's 520W too, but it might be a bit low for the long run). They're modular so cable management will be better, if not, the Corsair is a good choice.

 

Back to RAM, there should be kits, which are 2 modules in the same package. A kit should be a bit cheaper than buying two separate modules.

 

Anyway, a website would be helpful for more precise recommendations. A hardware site shouldn't be that hard to navigate and there's always google translate.

[Arceles]

Just Right now I also finally did my move to the desktop space going with the FX 8350 processor (it's a good deal right now) however with AMD processors RAM speed is quite important, try to go 1600 or 1866 if possible.

 

Edit: God dammit your prices are exorbitant.... well, then I insists on the 1600 ram, if you are worried too much about GPU, try to go with the 7950 that can be nicely overclocked. Your ultra wide monitor worries me a bit... that GPU should not have problems with nowadays games at that resolution (depending on your tastes, for me, anything above 30 is a luxury since I come from "always laptop" gaming in the past) however I cannot say for future games... you may have to go xFire or SLI mode.

[Luc2k]

with AMD processors RAM speed is quite important

Not really, just for APUs. I suggested 1600 CL9 because that had the best bang for buck usually, but with the prices he's posting, I'm not so sure any more.

[mduren2445]

maybe this will help explain prices 1 Brazilian real = 44 cents us

[guitmz]

maybe this will help explain prices 1 Brazilian real = 44 cents us

 

 

hmmmm something like that..  to make it easy to convert, 1 USD  = 2 Brazilian reais

 

Just Right now I also finally did my move to the desktop space going with the FX 8350 processor (it's a good deal right now) however with AMD processors RAM speed is quite important, try to go 1600 or 1866 if possible.

 

Edit: God dammit your prices are exorbitant.... well, then I insists on the 1600 ram, if you are worried too much about GPU, try to go with the 7950 that can be nicely overclocked. Your ultra wide monitor worries me a bit... that GPU should not have problems with nowadays games at that resolution (depending on your tastes, for me, anything above 30 is a luxury since I come from "always laptop" gaming in the past) however I cannot say for future games... you may have to go xFire or SLI mode.

 

7950 HD 3GB = $500 USD at least here... That's why I asked for the 7870 of GTX 660 (no Ti). I don't care for anything more than 30 and as you I use a laptop for gaming (GTX 560M + i5 SB). I was about to get the 8350 for 310 USD but then I got that deal on the 8320 and got it.. 0.5Ghz won't kill me

[guitmz]

550W is enough as long as it's a good quality PSU. Are there any Seasonic M12II 620W or 650W available? (there's 520W too, but it might be a bit low for the long run). They're modular so cable management will be better, if not, the Corsair is a good choice.

 

Back to RAM, there should be kits, which are 2 modules in the same package. A kit should be a bit cheaper than buying two separate modules.

 

Anyway, a website would be helpful for more precise recommendations. A hardware site shouldn't be that hard to navigate and there's always google translate.

 

couldnt find the Seasonic M12II 620W or 650W here...  i think ill get the 650w corsair for 140 bucks (usd)

 

 

regarding the ram, found a corsair vengeance 1600mhz 4gb for $60 usd each

[mduren2445]

rummage around this site you may get lucky

 

http://www.kabum.com.br/hardware/fontes

 

there is a corsair 600w psu for roughly 172 US,  should fit your needs

[guitmz]

rummage around this site you may get lucky

 

http://www.kabum.com.br/hardware/fontes

 

there is a corsair 600w psu for roughly 172 US,  should fit your needs

 

Yup, bought few things there in the past, good store. Thanks for the PSU tip, 600w should do for the build. My main concern is the monitor resolution and the 7870 (or gtx660)

[Luc2k]

Yup, bought few things there in the past, good store. Thanks for the PSU tip, 600w should do for the build. My main concern is the monitor resolution and the 7870 (or gtx660)

They can handle 2560x1600 on single monitors but don't expect good performance in demanding games.

[guitmz]

They can handle 2560x1600 on single monitors but don't expect good performance in demanding games.

 

I believe I can play the games on lower resolution, like 1920x1080 for example on that screen (even if i get the black sidebars which i dont really care)

[guitmz]

so..

 

got a deal on OCZ 700w ModXstream ($100 usd) and bought it. I don't know if it was a wise choice but seems a good PSU for the price (and will give me a higher window time for SLI or whatever).

 

I'm now struggling on the GPU... the 2560x1080 is still 1080p so it wont be like using a 1440p display, i dont think i'll need a beast GPU like 680.

 

But I think that AMD will perform better (higher memory bus), am I correct?

What are my choices here? :(

[tsupersonic]

Good luck on your build. My OCZ ModXStream 700W PSU (was cheap, $59) died after four years of service. I normally wouldn't care if just the PSU died, but it took out my motherboard and CPU along with it. I didn't really want to upgrade, as my older i7 860 was perfect for my needs. 

[Luc2k]

so..

 

got a deal on OCZ 700w ModXstream ($100 usd) and bought it. I don't know if it was a wise choice but seems a good PSU for the price (and will give me a higher window time for SLI or whatever).

 

I'm now struggling on the GPU... the 2560x1080 is still 1080p so it wont be like using a 1440p display, i dont think i'll need a beast GPU like 680.

 

But I think that AMD will perform better (higher memory bus), am I correct?

What are my choices here? :(

The OCZ PSUs are average, but considering the prices you listed for better stuff, I would have probably done the same (lower wattage model though).

 

With your display you will be pushing 33% more pixels than 1080p. I would consider the 7870 on the lower end of the scale when running games with on the native resolution with high details.

 

I've heard whispers of issues with the 660's 192-bit bus, but I couldn't say anything more. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks.

 

When I'm looking at cards for myself I usually end up using the lastest TechPowerUp review's performance summary (I'm using the latest for up to date drivers), pick the resolution I'm interested in (1920x1080 would be the closest to yours) and calculate bang per buck for each card available in the shop (in my budget).

[guitmz]

Good luck on your build. My OCZ ModXStream 700W PSU (was cheap, $59) died after four years of service. I normally wouldn't care if just the PSU died, but it took out my motherboard and CPU along with it. I didn't really want to upgrade, as my older i7 860 was perfect for my needs. 

 

Shame to hear that... If was only the PSU i'd see no problem either.

The OCZ PSUs are average, but considering the prices you listed for better stuff, I would have probably done the same (lower wattage model though).

 

With your display you will be pushing 33% more pixels than 1080p. I would consider the 7870 on the lower end of the scale when running games with on the native resolution with high details.

 

I've heard whispers of issues with the 660's 192-bit bus, but I couldn't say anything more. Maybe someone else can fill in the blanks.

 

When I'm looking at cards for myself I usually end up using the lastest TechPowerUp review's performance summary (I'm using the latest for up to date drivers), pick the resolution I'm interested in (1920x1080 would be the closest to yours) and calculate bang per buck for each card available in the shop (in my budget).

 

 

WIll check that review website. As for the graphics, I'm considering asking a friend to bring me this from EUA: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202001

 

I think the 700w PSU will be able to handle it and that this GPU will work fine with the 2560x1080 monitor. Seems a solid deal considering the GTX series prices.

[guitmz]

Damn.. I don't know if I'll be able to get the 7970. What's the cheapest option to run games at 2560x1080? I don't need to max everything but being able to at least play in that resolution is fine