Have you read the Bible?


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I am so skeptical that you guys -- native English speakers, have read the classic work in English language history -- the Bible, unless you are a Christian.

What? In China, English language experts and teachers tell us: if you want to learn English professionally, it is inevitable to learn the Bible.

Darnit, not really! If you are not a Christian, but you have to learn the Bible, that is because you want to be the President of US, or of other countries... ;)

Right?

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damn it! i was just about to correct your spelling, but once this page just loaded, i realised you corrected it already :D

seriously though, i know some colleges which makes their students study the bible if they are in literature analysing classes. ;)

The bible was first writen in various languages, Aramaic, Hebrew. Then compiled in Greek, then translated into Latin, from which most modern language translations come from....

Im not a bible scholar, so I might be wrong in the exact order, but what is for sure is that its a translation of a translation of a translation.......

What I suspect here is that english teaching is being done mostly by American missionaries over there, with the agenda of then inserting the Bible...

huh? Your teachers tell you if you want to learn english correctly - you should learn the bible?? Your teachers are just a bunch of thumpers! For one - pretty sure that the use of the bible in public school would, even if for some type of english classs would be walking a fine line on the separation of church and state issue.

I know for sure if my kids brought home a bible as a text book - I would be bringing it to someones attention!

If looking for examples of the proper use of english, etc.. - the bible sure and the hell would not be on my top 100.

My bibles include books on Network Security and TCP-IP....Here you get the facts....

TCP-IP was born in paradise 4000 years ago , TCP met IP and they took a byte of the forbidden data packet......Then they were cast to live in a Ethernet 10 Mbps infrastucture...ect etc

LOLOL

Gave me a good laugh that one

Cheers

Read it when I was young, but do not consider it a "real" requirement for "learning English professionally".

If anything, have encountered many folk thinking they're supposed to study Shakespeare to learn high-level English, and frankly, I'd disagree with that as well. Heck, the Bible is but a translation, and not easy to read in King James English at that.

Portions of the Bible can be referenced in some university-level Western Civilization classes (alongside things like, say, Proust's Swann's Way), and it might be good to be familiar with for Western Civilization, but it's not something that would help one's English, per se.

Heck, read Hemingway works, and it'll do you a *ton* more practical good.

(Also would disagree that Presidents are "required" to learn the Bible, for what it's worth. If anything, it's again an historical / cultural tool type thing, not an English language thing.)

My bibles include books on Network Security and TCP-IP....Here you get the facts....

TCP-IP was born in paradise 4000 years ago , TCP met IP and they took a byte of the forbidden data packet......Then they were cast to live in a Ethernet 10 Mbps infrastucture...ect etc

ROFL :rofl:

raised catholic and have several editions.

Read some translations of the dead Sea Scrolls and its interesting to see 4 versions of the same story, or like in the King James version: 2 versions of the Noah's Ark story, each contradicting the other :p

IE:

"And to him on board the ark went one pair, a male and a female, of all animals, clean and unclean, of birds, and of everything that creeps on the ground, two by two, as God had commanded....Those which came were one male and one female of all living things; they came in as God had commanded Noah...the water had increased over the earth for a hundred and fifty days." (Genesis Chapter 7 verses 15, 24)

"Take with you seven pairs, a male and a female, of all ritually clean animals, and one pair, a male and a female, of all unclean animals; also seven pairs, male and female, of every bird-to ensure that life continues on the earth. For in seven days I am going to send rain on the earth for forty days and forty nights." (Genesis Chapter 7 verse 2)

I've never read the bible and don't plan on it, and it sure isn't needed to be able to speak english well. Infact isn't the english in the bible kinda of weird, as in we don't use that kind of structure and word order in modern english??? Just a thought. And if you really want to read the bible the way it was meant to be read it in hebrew, much is lost in translation.

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