Issue deleting folders

[Toxikk Veteran]

yo.

so i used autopatcher xp and it made a butt load of folders on my d drive (which is a logical partition on the same hdd as my system partition).

i cannot delete any of these files. i have tried every way i know how, editing perms, using dos, etc.

it says that i cannot delete them becuase they are in use. they did not show up until after i used axp.

here is a screenie. hope someone can help me delete this crap off my hdd.

[SimplyPotatoes]

have you tried closing all progams including explrer presing ctrlaltdel and delting them through the open dialog?

[adamp2p]

Why dont you go to folder options and try this make sure that the "open folder windows in their own process" is not selected

[FlishFun Veteran]

  Toxikk said:

yo.

so i used autopatcher xp and it made a butt load of folders on my d drive (which is a logical partition on the same hdd as my system partition).

i cannot delete any of these files.  i have tried every way i know how, editing perms, using dos, etc.

it says that i cannot delete them becuase they are in use.  they did not show up until after i used axp.

here is a screenie.  hope someone can help me delete this crap off my hdd.

Sometimes the updates leave those folders there, though they should be removed upon reboot. How odd. Try this (unless you already did):

Reboot into Safe Mode w/ Command Prompt, then try to delete them. With explorer disabled and you in safe mode, it should let you delete them.

That is very odd though, at most all I've ever had was 2... and it let me delete them upon reboot... :blink: Well, I'll help you get rid of 'em man, one way or another.

[Toxikk Veteran]

yeah just sux cuz this app rules, expect for this. ill report back... hopefully i can get rid of them.. this is the second biggest drive i got and i cannot afford to have to reformat the entire thing...

[FlishFun Veteran]

  Toxikk said:

yeah just sux cuz this app rules, expect for this.  ill report back... hopefully i can get rid of them.. this is the second biggest drive i got and i cannot afford to have to reformat the entire thing...

Well I feel ya man. You're the only person to report this happening, so I'll do my best to help you get them gone. You shouldn't have to reformat. I'm almost positive that you'd be able to delete them in Safe Mode w/ Command Prompt. Also, I'll try and see if I can find any reason that this would have happened... I'll let you know if I find anything, and you keep me posted on the removal.

[FlishFun Veteran]

Toxikk... out of curiousity, do you happen to be running a P4 with HyperThreading enabled?

[Toxikk Veteran]

  FlishFun said:

Toxikk... out of curiousity, do you happen to be running a P4 with HyperThreading enabled?

:blink: holy crap. indeed i am. good call. what i do now? disable it and delete them then enable it again?

[FlishFun Veteran]

  Toxikk said:

  :blink: holy crap.  indeed i am.  good call.  what i do now?  disable it and delete them then enable it again?

Hmmm... yes, I think that may work... according to Microsoft:

  Quote

SYMPTOMS

When you install certain Windows 2000 Server or Windows XP hotfixes on a computer with a high-speed hyper-threaded processor or multiple high-speed processors, a temporary folder may remain in the root folder of one of the computer's hard disks after the hotfix is installed.

CAUSE

This problem occurs as a result of a race condition (timing issue) in certain versions of the hotfix installer components. The affected hotfix packages contain installer components that have the following attributes (or earlier) that are listed in the following table:

Date         Time   Version    Size    File name
---------------------------------------------------
21-Sep-2002  20:44  5.2.32.0   24,576  Xpsp1hfm.exe     
21-Sep-2002  20:44  5.2.42.0   46,080  Spuninst.exe     
21-Sep-2002  20:44  5.2.42.0  273,408   Update.exe

RESOLUTION

This problem is resolved in hotfix packages that contain hotfix installer components with the following attributes or later that are listed in the following table:

Date         Time   Version    Size    File name
---------------------------------------------------
14-Nov-2002  18:01  5.3.10.0  409,088  Update.exe       
17-Dec-2002  21:32  5.3.10.0   87,040  Spuninst.exe     
17-Dec-2002  21:32  5.3.5.0    24,576  Xpsp1hfm.exe

   

WORKAROUND

To work around this problem delete the temporary folder after you install the hotfix, and then restart the computer.

So I'd say give it a shot... if it doesn't work, just try what I suggested earlier. But also, now I know to include a warning for those with Hyperthreading enabled.

[Toxikk Veteran]

that doesnt tell me how to delete them.... oh, you mean give disabling ht a shot?

[akaladis Veteran]

ah, damn this HyperThreading... responsible for quite a few problems :(

/Raptor

[FlishFun Veteran]

  Toxikk said:

that doesnt tell me how to delete them....  oh, you mean give disabling ht a shot?

Yeah, sorry... that's what I meant. Try disabling HT, then try it. I think it will work, but if not, try the "Safe Mode w/ Command Prompt" idea. I'm sure one of those two ways will work. And now we also know that you must disable HT before running the AutoPatcher (or even just manually patching your system with an older hotfix).

[Toxikk Veteran]

nope. didnt work.

[FlishFun Veteran]

  Toxikk said:

nope. didnt work.

Hmmm... I guess try the other way and let me know...

[Toxikk Veteran]

  adamp2p said:

Why dont you go to folder options and try this make sure that the "open folder windows in their own process" is not selected

the default option has this unchecked. mine was not checked.

[Toxikk Veteran]

  FlishFun said:

Hmmm... I guess try the other way and let me know...

what other way? i disabled ht and tried to delete in windows and in safe mode with cmd.

i dont know what else to do. the folders are empty. it will not delete the update dir in each of them. says i dont have access. this sucks.

[FlishFun Veteran]

  Toxikk said:

what other way?  i disabled ht and tried to delete in windows and in safe mode with cmd.

i dont know what else to do.  the folders are empty.  it will not delete the update dir in each of them.  says i dont have access.  this sucks.

Oops... sorry, thought you only tried the HT way. Hmmm... both ways don't work?? Okay, give me a little more time to look into this, there hasta be a way.

[Toxikk Veteran]

im in xp pro on my new abit ic7g with p4 3.0g HT.

didnt know if you would need that info. i really hope i can get rid of this crap.

[SimplyPotatoes]

did u try what i said?!

[Toxikk Veteran]

thru the open dialog?

[SimplyPotatoes]

ya ctrl alt del everything u possibly can, then goto open dialog go into that and rigth click to delete the folders

[Toxikk Veteran]

i killed all the processes i could and then tried to del in a cmd window and that didnt work. is that what you mean? or should i not kill explorer and then right click delete?

[Toxikk Veteran]

oh, and i still have ht disabled.

[wired57]

rmdir foldername I think is the command you want.

Removes (deletes) a directory.

RMDIR [/s] [/Q] [drive:]path

RD [/s] [/Q] [drive:]path

/S Removes all directories and files in the specified directory

in addition to the directory itself. Used to remove a directory

tree.

/Q Quiet mode, do not ask if ok to remove a directory tree with /S

do that from saemode with command prompt, the del command only work with files, not directorys.

[Spyder Veteran]

another thing to try is to (disable simple file sharing if you have it enabled first) highlight all those folders you can't delete, then right click, properties. go to security tab and make sure you have ownership of those folders. maybe you dont? that would stop you from deleting the folders. if you don't, force ownership and get rid of those bad boys