IIS in Windows XP

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run the mmc and add the IIS snap in - if your not seeing it in manage.

BTW - I sure hope your not planning on making your webserver available to the public net. Since I find it hard to believe someone that can not find the iis manager is going to be able to properly secure it ;)

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  BudMan said:
run the mmc and add the IIS snap in - if your not seeing it in manage.

BTW - I sure hope your not planning on making your webserver available to the public net. Since I find it hard to believe someone that can not find the iis manager is going to be able to properly secure it ;)

Actually I have installed it before, got it up and running, and got it secured properly. For whatever reason, it isn't installing even when it says it is.
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run the mmc and add the IIS snap in - if your not seeing it in manage.

BTW - I sure hope your not planning on making your webserver available to the public net. Since I find it hard to believe someone that can not find the iis manager is going to be able to properly secure it ;)

lol it's an excellent learning experience though. My first go at working with IIS turned my machine into a warez distrobution FTP for a bunch of foreigners. It was quite the learning experience figuring out what I had done wrong and ever since I've put everything into a test environment for at least a week before going live. It's been a few years now and I have a pretty good grasp on things, but from my experience the best way to learn and remember what you learned is to fail at something miserably! :p
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run the mmc and add the IIS snap in - if your not seeing it in manage.

BTW - I sure hope your not planning on making your webserver available to the public net.  Since I find it hard to believe someone that can not find the iis manager is going to be able to properly secure it ;)

lol it's an excellent learning experience though. My first go at working with IIS turned my machine into a warez distrobution FTP for a bunch of foreigners. It was quite the learning experience figuring out what I had done wrong and ever since I've put everything into a test environment for at least a week before going live. It's been a few years now and I have a pretty good grasp on things, but from my experience the best way to learn and remember what you learned is to fail at something miserably! :p
Thats very helpful, I'll try that.
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Explain.
I just find it hard to believe someone that can not seem install and or find the manager for IIS, would have the skill set require to PROPERLY secure IIS is all ;)

I may be way off base - and please do not take any offense. Be honest - do you think someone asking on where to configure IIS would have the skills required to secure it correctly?? :whistle:

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I just find it hard to believe someone that can not seem install and or find the manager for IIS, would have the skill set require to PROPERLY secure IIS is all ;)

I may be way off base - and please do not take any offense. Be honest - do you think someone asking on where to configure IIS would have the skills required to secure it correctly?? :whistle:

What is so hard to believe? I have setup IIS in the past with no difficulty. The way that I have always installed it (through the Add Windows Components) doesn't seem to be working. Looking in Computer Management and MMC is pointless, because it isn't installed, and you can't add it if it isn't installed. Perhaps instead of being an ***hole, you could assist me in getting it installed.
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WOW, I dont think that it called for the ***hole line, he did say...."Please dont take offense". I do agree with BudMan on this as well, maybe that will give me the same ***hole line, but...so be it. Other things that you can do is form a command line, net start/stop w3svc, you can check Event Viewer to see if there are errors listed, etc.....

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I just find it hard to believe someone that can not seem install and or find the manager for IIS, would have the skill set require to PROPERLY secure IIS is all ;)

I may be way off base - and please do not take any offense.? Be honest - do you think someone asking on where to configure IIS would have the skills required to secure it correctly???:whistle:e:

What is so hard to believe? I have setup IIS in the past with no difficulty. The way that I have always installed it (through the Add Windows Components) doesn't seem to be working. Looking in Computer Management and MMC is pointless, because it isn't installed, and you can't add it if it isn't installed. Perhaps instead of being an ***hole, you could assist me in getting it installed.
That attitude alone strengthens my belief. I already stated how you can gain access to the IIS manager by using the mmc and adding the snap in. Other people have told you where it is, or how to call the msc directly.

If it truely is NOT installing - you have given us NO info that would allow us to help you in troubleshooting the problem.

I have no doubt that you may have installed it in the past - but come on -- the skills required to select a check box in add and remove programs, and or even finding the IIS manager is atleast few notches below PROPERLY SECURING IIS.

Is the WWW publishing service listed? Is the inetinfo.exe?? on your machine?? This type of info may be of help in figuring out if its installed or not.

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I didn't want to have to resort to the ***hole line, but I think the guy deserved it. I don't appreciate being called an idiot because Windows is acting up on me. I'm not at home right now, so I'll check the event viewer later and see what the installation error is.

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I just find it hard to believe someone that can not seem install and or find the manager for IIS, would have the skill set require to PROPERLY secure IIS is all ;)

I may be way off base - and please do not take any offense.? Be honest - do you think someone asking on where to configure IIS would have the skills required to secure it correctly???:whistle:e:

What is so hard to believe? I have setup IIS in the past with no difficulty. The way that I have always installed it (through the Add Windows Components) doesn't seem to be working. Looking in Computer Management and MMC is pointless, because it isn't installed, and you can't add it if it isn't installed. Perhaps instead of being an ***hole, you could assist me in getting it installed.
That attitude alone strengthens my belief. I already stated how you can gain access to the IIS manager by using the mmc and adding the snap in. Other people have told you where it is, or how to call the msc directly.

If it truely is NOT installing - you have given us NO info that would allow us to help you in troubleshooting the problem.

I have no doubt that you may have installed it in the past - but come on -- the skills required to select a check box in add and remove programs, and or even finding the IIS manager is atleast few notches below PROPERLY SECURING IIS.

Is the WWW publishing service listed? Is the inetsrv.exe on your machine?? This type of info may be of help in figuring out if its installed or not.

You got me, I didn't know how to check the box beside IIS. Who would have thought it would be that simple?

I'm not getting any error messages, its just not being installed. You can't add the snap-in when ISS isn't installed, and the MSC file isn't present. What error messages am I supposed to give you when I'm not getting any?

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I didn't want to have to resort to the ***hole line, but I think the guy deserved it. I don't appreciate being called an idiot because Windows is acting up on me. I'm not at home right now, so I'll check the event viewer later and see what the installation error is.
who called you an idiot?? I was just stating my opinion to your comment that you have properly secured IIS in the past. And I still find that quite HARD to believe.

If you took that as being called an idiot - well, I am sorry if you see yourself that way. But if the shoe fits, maybe it is yours??

Your first post stated that you installed IIS, why should I not believe that statement?? If you know you have it installed - but need to ask where to manage it from, how does this point to someone with a high level of experience??

Now maybe if you would of posted that you ran the install, but the IIS manager is not available, or the service is not installed - even though install ran. My opinion of your level of experience would of been off base. But come on - read your own post. And your statement to the fact that you have SECURED IIS in the past. Does it make sense to you???

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who called you an idiot?? I was just stating my opinion to your comment that you have properly secured IIS in the past. And I still find that quite HARD to believe.

If you took that as being called an idiot - well, I am sorry if you see yourself that way. But if the shoe fits, maybe it is yours??

Your first post stated that you installed IIS, why should I not believe that statement?? If you know you have it installed - but need to ask where to manage it from, how does this point to someone with a high level of experience??

Now maybe if you would of posted that you ran the install, but the IIS manager is not available, or the service is not installed - even though install ran. My opinion of your level of experience would of been off base. But come on - read your own post. And your statement to the fact that you have SECURED IIS in the past. Does it make sense to you???

As I have stated before, in the past I have installed and configured IIS on my computer. So I obviously have experience doing so. For the first time last night, when I installed it, IT DIDN'T INSTALL. Now this is not my fault. In the past I always checked the box beside IIS, clicked Details, and selected what I needed. My expertise on IIS allows me to select the correct components in IIS in order to get it running (I always setup an FTP server). Once installed, I then go to Administrative Tools, and configure it.

I followed the instructions at the beginning of this thread, I tried MMC, I tried looking for the services, and I tried looking for the MSC file. I did all of this with no success.

Explain to me how this is my fault. How does a Windows error make you question my ability to use IIS? If you're such an expert on this, perhaps you could make yourself useful by helping me, instead of critising me.

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Where did I say it was your fault?? My comment was to the part about your posts that stated you had SECURED IIS. Again - I will repeat this for you. Maybe it will sink in??

The installation and or finding the IIS manager - has little to do with PROPERLY "SECURING" IIS.

My comment was to your statement that you had done so - I still find it HARD to believe that you have done so, this was why my comment about making it available to the public net. If IIS is not PROPERLY secured you are asking for TROUBLE!!

If IIS is install - maybe you forget to install the snap-ins??? Is why you having a problem finding the manager??

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