John Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 try some of these: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=317326 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...md_stp_ottj.asp http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/....asp?frame=true edit: try updating the drivers that were ever mentioned before with this error Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 try some of these:http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=317326 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...md_stp_ottj.asp edit: removed articles for windows 2000 :blush: the top 2 told me nothing except install the latest SP, which i have.The 3rd one...well, im not sure i understand what it's saying. Is it saying I may have faulty RAM, or a bad driver? And if it's a driver, why can the system not identify it? Ive also received these: Stop 0x0000002E or DATA_BUS_ERROR Stop 0x0000000A or IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Its not normal for xp to do that, so I would try the following: 1. Do an up to date FULL virus check. 2. Download all the latest critical patchs from the windows update site 3. Update your drivers (printer/graphics/sound/modem/etc) 4. Failing all the above, backup your data and do a FULL CLEAN INSTALL of xp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 (edited) Its not normal for xp to do that, so I would try the following:1. Do an up to date FULL virus check. 2. Download all the latest critical patchs from the windows update site 3. Update your drivers (printer/graphics/sound/modem/etc) 4. Failing all the above, backup your data and do a FULL CLEAN INSTALL of xp. did, did, did, did, and did.next...? :D Edited November 21, 2003 by lebmike Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 and wait, i also saw this one a few times too... Stop 0xC2 or BAD_POOL_CALLER Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 You have "Issues". With all of those different errors, my guess would be a failing motherboard, processor or memory. Have you ran the memory test? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 no, i havent run the memory test yet, i will when i get home. so if you all read this thread, what do you think in your opinions owuld be the cause? Bad memory or an actual driver? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nanackle Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 http://www.memtest86.com/ use the tool at this website to test your memory... it worked for me two days ago.. it caught all the errors. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 http://www.memtest86.com/use the tool at this website to test your memory... it worked for me two days ago.. it caught all the errors. thanks, ill try it tonight.mike Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 http://www.memtest86.com/use the tool at this website to test your memory... it worked for me two days ago.. it caught all the errors. what did you do after it caught all the errors? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delsphynx Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Personally, I think your issue is 99.9% hardware. XP is pretty stable, at least way more so than what you are seeing with yours. I have a strong feeling you are having hardware issues. What is your mobo manufacturer and RAM manufacturer? Motherboards (especially some of the new ones) seem to have RAM compatibility issues. I actually think I have one of those now - my computer will literally just freeze in its tracks - system clock, going to the task manager and looking at the performance graphs that will never update, etc. etc. Forces me to reboot, and ****es me off. I just haven't had a chance to trace it down yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 !WURD! you can try to disable auto-reboot on critical erro in startup and recovery options But that can damage his hardware in long therm... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Yeah seeing as it seems you have tried everything, it seems to me to be a faulty motherboard, you could try updating your motherboard drivers and bios etc, also via ones if your MB supports it, otherwise it looks like you should try buying a different MB. :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 so many scenarios :( i dont know what to do Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antichrist Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Yeah seeing as it seems you have tried everything, it seems to me to be a faulty motherboard, you could try updating your motherboard drivers and bios etc, also via ones if your MB supports it, otherwise it looks like you should try buying a different MB. :/ Exactly what I was going to add. I did that with my old (5 years) motherboard and XP began to work. At that time, I couldn't even install XP, it was doing the exact same thing during the installation. Then I updated the bios and "voil?"! It's all a matter of how XP "speaks" with your motherboard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadialFX Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 This does very much sound like a problem with RAM. Over the last 21 years I've seen bad RAM drive people crazy. The problem with testing it "Live" is that it may not report as bad at this moment. Another program that's a really good piece of diagnostic software is SANDRA by SiSoft http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/ . Personally by the looks of all the errors you're getting I wouldn't start disassembling anything or uninstalling a lot of stuff before I either replaced some RAM or ran a utility on it to help identify if it's RAM or not. Sometimes you have to just let it run with the utility also running until it encounters the error. These can be really tough ones to identify. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 so many scenarios :( i dont know what to do Pick one and start. Normally I dont suggest a reformat reinstall, but aside for running all these tests, you could try that first if you still have problems you could start running tests Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 But that can damage his hardware in long therm... How is disabling the "Auto Reboot" feature going to damage his hardware in the long term scenario? Before Windows XP, this feature was not available. It is more of a convenience issue (Especially with servers) so if your PC goes down, it can come right back up, instead of waiting for someone to cycle the power. My setting is set to auto reboot, but if I start having problems, I change it to the old fashioned manual way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 you all have been very helpful. i think before the 1st thing i am going to do is test my memory, with that, im just going to pull of of the chips i have. i have 2 512 chips, ill pull the generic one first, if it still crashes, ill pull the Samsung one and put the generic back in. we'll see hwat happens. results for you all by Sunday :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Good Luck! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Veteran Posted November 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted November 21, 2003 excellent choice starting with the RAM. thats where i'd start considering what I read about some of the stop errors you posted Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR7 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 hum I had Auto-Reboot on System Error enabled before......and I had some problems with my computer rebooting at random too.....but it was a matter of CPU overheating....any chance that's your problem? I dont know if it could be, since i never saw the error codes for my reboots......i just installed a temperature monitoring software and i saw the temp was just too high (80C) and i just added some fans and bought a new fan for the CPU... if you havent checked down, download speedfan (www.almico.com/speedfan) i think, and check what's your CPU's processor. good luck with the tests too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Smit Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I had two Abit motherboards BX133-RAID a while back that would reboot like your computer does. I tried all sorts of stuff and in the end I was looking closely at the power conditioning circuit on the motherboard. Guess what I found? A few capacitors where kinda bloated. Attached is a ZIP file with a picture of my broken motherboard and also a PDF about this issue. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 21, 2003 Author Share Posted November 21, 2003 so far so good...i took out one memory chip and i havent had a crash since, its been over an hour now. we'll see what happens over the weekend. Mike Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1392964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejd1 Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 Day 2 of taking out the RAM: No system crashes! wow! time to buy a new 512 stick! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/117509-sick-of-the-crashes-please-help/page/2/#findComment-1394653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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