Better Than 4770K CPU

[+longgonebn Subscriber²]

What CPU on the Intel side is better then the i7 4770K? Haswell? 1150 socket?

 

Need to upgrade my CPU so that it can do 2 to 3 transcoding streams at once (my current can hardly do one, to be clear, my listed specs is not my streaming PC). What would be the best option?

[Matthew_Thepc]

What's the budget? I think the Extreme Edition or Xeons come with more cores which could help, but they're usually almost 2x more expensive.

[+Red King Subscriber²]

Maybe this will help,

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

[Martog]

What's the budget? I think the Extreme Edition or Xeons come with more cores which could help, but they're usually almost 2x more expensive.

Indeed they do, up to 6 core on the Extreme Edition if he wants to stick with a desktop CPU in 2011 format. The Xeons come in 4, 6, 8, 10 and 12 core variants.  Some of them able to do 2 and 4 CPU sockets.  Could get a couple 12 core variants, 24 cores, 48 logical cpus xD

[Raa]

4771 :P

[gohpep]

What CPU on the Intel side is better then the i7 4770K? Haswell? 1150 socket?

 

Need to upgrade my CPU so that it can do 2 to 3 transcoding streams at once (my current can hardly do one, to be clear, my listed specs is not my streaming PC). What would be the best option?

I really do think that the i7-4930K is worth the extra money, as long as you can fit it in your budget, the performance increase is worth the price. However, the extreme CPU line does not give as big in a jump in performance as the 4770K to the 4930K is.

[+longgonebn Subscriber²]

I said Socket 1150 and you offer 2011?

 

I have a system in place, Socket 1150, so it has to be that still. I don't really have a budget, but if I can pay around the price of a 4770K then it would be nice.

[i_was_here]

There really isn't anything higher than the 4770K or 4771 for socket 1150. If you just need more speed, try overclocking. If you need more cores then you'll have to change sockets.

[gohpep]

I said Socket 1150 and you offer 2011?

 

I have a system in place, Socket 1150, so it has to be that still. I don't really have a budget, but if I can pay around the price of a 4770K then it would be nice.

Oops sorry, I haven't had enough sleep and didn't read the thread really... :p

 

Yeah, you won't get past the 4770K or 4771.

I haven't used the 4771 myself but a quick look on Newegg tells me it's worth it for the $10 price difference.

It'll be harder to overclock though, and I'm seeing only a clock rate difference between them. You can get 4.4GHz out of a 7440K, so there's that.

[+longgonebn Subscriber²]

I think the 4770K Quad Core is enough. I currently have a i3 duel core.

 

I just wanted to know if there was better, I guess not.

[Martog]

I think the 4770K Quad Core is enough. I currently have a i3 duel core.

 

I just wanted to know if there was better, I guess not.

 

The 4771K is going to be the best you can get right now, the Haswell refresh will be out in a month or two, but do not expect any core count increase.  You will have to jump to another socket if you want more cores.

[+longgonebn Subscriber²]

Why would the 4771 be better? There is no 4771K, 4771 is the same as 4770K without the ability to overclock.

 

 

The 4771K is going to be the best you can get right now, the Haswell refresh will be out in a month or two, but do not expect any core count increase.  You will have to jump to another socket if you want more cores.

[Praetor]

you can always use the Xeon E3-1280 v3, it supports the socket H3 (1150). You should be able to transcoding several streams with this CPU.

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/75057/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1280-v3-8M-Cache-3_60-GHz

[+longgonebn Subscriber²]

That is twice the price, and is under the 4770K in performace if you look at the page linked in previous post :)

 

 

you can always use the Xeon E3-1280 v3, it supports the socket H3 (1150). You should be able to transcoding several streams with this CPU.

 

http://ark.intel.com/products/75057/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1280-v3-8M-Cache-3_60-GHz

[Raa]

Why would the 4771 be better? There is no 4771K, 4771 is the same as 4770K without the ability to overclock.

The 4770 and 4770K are the same. The 4771 isn't quite the same as a 4770 (or unlocked 4770K).

 

Not counting the other non K vs K differences, which is very important for my choice of CPU.

[n_K]

Unless somethings changed vastly, xeon CPUs are not compatible with desktop motherboards

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

Unless somethings changed vastly, xeon CPUs are not compatible with desktop motherboards

The Xeon and i7 lines are the same designs and just branded slightly differently these days. Here's an example of a motherboard supporting both: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=45&m=MAXIMUS%20VI%20HERO&os=&hashedid=9JB5jBpArfvcpcNi

 

He'd need to check his mobo to be sure though.

[n_K]

The Xeon and i7 lines are the same designs and just branded slightly differently these days. Here's an example of a motherboard supporting both: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&s=45&m=MAXIMUS%20VI%20HERO&os=&hashedid=9JB5jBpArfvcpcNi

 

He'd need to check his mobo to be sure though.

Ah they're only entry level E3 xeons, nothing higher than that with the note '*Intel Xeon Processor Family is designed for servers. Some features may not support when installed on 8 series chipsets. For more details, refer to ASUS support site at http://support.asus.com.' so it's not worth going for xeon as nothing would be gained.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Unless somethings changed vastly, xeon CPUs are not compatible with desktop motherboards

 

Sure they are.  I have a Xeon 3110 in my HTPC right now.  

[Rippleman]

wouldn't it be the GPU you would be worried about? I wouldn't imagine any change in processor for you would result in any difference at all... unless i am misunderstanding your question...

 

For conversion, almost 100% of the actual conversion is done through the graphics card.

 

added: for verification, I just looked up more info and it really depends on what program you are using for the trascoding, some programs offload the processing to the GPU and some offload to the CPU... and some even do combination. The programs i use always use the GPU since much faster for that paticular kind of work. The way i know it, a CPU is white collar workers and a GPU is like the actual grunt workers.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

Why not you wait till June for new Haswell Refresh.

[+longgonebn Subscriber²]

I am transcoding, that is all CPU. I suppose some do that through GPU, but everything I have used (any now mostly Plex) is CPU. Thanks guys :)

 

I may wait until June, its just annoying to play certain things all at once.

[xendrome]

So Socket 1150, you are stuck with 4 cores.. There are NO CPUs in the 1150 socket over 4 cores.

 

And the highest Xeon is E3-1285 I believe, and it is just SLIGHTLY faster then the 4770... So unless you want to change your board out to a Dual or Quad socket, you are stuck.

[snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member]

Ah they're only entry level E3 xeons, nothing higher than that with the note '*Intel Xeon Processor Family is designed for servers. Some features may not support when installed on 8 series chipsets. For more details, refer to ASUS support site at http://support.asus.com.' so it's not worth going for xeon as nothing would be gained.

Well this board doesn't because the socket is limited to 4 core products, but keep in mind that there are other consumer boards that will support non-entry level Xeons (with the same stipulation you listed above). For example: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/list.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=P9X79%20PRO&p=1 (12 core HTs). It really depends on the board you are using basically.

[Andre S. Veteran]

I am transcoding, that is all CPU. I suppose some do that through GPU, but everything I have used (any now mostly Plex) is CPU.

You'd do well to use software that takes advantage of hardware encoding (NVENC/QuickSync) if you want to improve your throughput. Although the quality tends to be inferior to x264, it's fine for live streaming and such.