Cinnamon 4GB Preview Limit?


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is there a way to remove this rather annoying limit? There are many a video that is well over 4gb and would therefore fall outside this silly limit and not get thumbnailed, or in my testing case, it wouldn't show the cover art.

 

So far this is the only thing that is letting cinnamon down for me, Mint + XFCE on the other hand with tumbler will see any size file and give it a thumbnail (well not psd or mp3).

 

If there is no way (I doubt mind re-compiling) then I guess it will be a move from my current Gentoo systems to Debian for server and Mint XFCE for other machines

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Thing is I am using the 64bit version, and as to why no KDE, that is a simple one, KDE's thumnailers will not show embedded art on any file. Guess I will need to poke about a bit see if it can be changed in the system variables, I know you can change it if you compile from source by editing one of the files, just cant remember where I saw that

Thing is I am using the 64bit version, and as to why no KDE, that is a simple one, KDE's thumnailers will not show embedded art on any file. Guess I will need to poke about a bit see if it can be changed in the system variables, I know you can change it if you compile from source by editing one of the files, just cant remember where I saw that

 

KDEs dolphin has thumbnail/preview functions for nearly any file type you could think of. images, vids, pdfs, folders, ... what kind of preview do you need exactly?

I have done many tests on many distros (although not arch), what KDE/Dolphin cannot do is pull the embedded cover art and use that as a thumbnail, it can preview PDF's file, image files, just not video or mp3 files.

 

It makes no difference if i use the mp4 container or the mkv container, it will make a thumbnail based on a random time, not the cover.

 

Tumbler can do it, as can cinnamon, it's just that cinnamon has a 4gb file limit on it

according to the official kde dolphin docs, it will show:

 

 

There is also an option to use thumbnails embedded in files.

 

ffmpeg plugin shows preview for videos. 

no clue what you mean with preview mp3 files as they are just sound.... setting a custom cover? for sure that should work as well.

 

for the vids, you can set any pic as a preview file with video thumbnail fixer

vidthumbs1.jpg

no clue what you mean with preview mp3 files as they are just sound.... setting a custom cover? for sure that should work as well.

Probably referring to embedded album art stored in the MP3, last time I used KDE for personal stuff it needed a plugin (AudioThumbs) but that may have changed.

Probably referring to embedded album art stored in the MP3, last time I used KDE for personal stuff it needed a plugin (AudioThumbs) but that may have changed.

 

Indeed, never was good at explaining things.

 

These images are taken from a Windows machine, as the laptop is currently doing other things, but what i mean about the videos is this

 

jaa3Tl5.jpg

 

xfce + tumbler = all covers shown

 

cinnamon = all movies apart from 4gb+ show the covers

 

Kde + Dolphin - no covers shown

 

 

Again as for the music I would like them shown like this

 

JoG4Epf.jpg

 

Doesnt matter which desktop I use none will show them

 

Once I get KDE in on the laptop I will try the programs suggested

it's dolphin not dolphine  :)

 

and yeah, get it on the laptop and give it a proper try. it shows any previews you want, you can enable/disable them as you like. you won't regret it, dolphin is the most advanced and configurable file manager out there.

according to the official kde dolphin docs, it will show:

 

ffmpeg plugin shows preview for videos. 

no clue what you mean with preview mp3 files as they are just sound.... setting a custom cover? for sure that should work as well.

 

for the vids, you can set any pic as a preview file with video thumbnail fixer

vidthumbs1.jpg

 

What is the name of the program you are using, I cant seem to find it on Linux Mint, is it an external app?

?? it's dolphin, KDEs default file-browser.

plugins i have installed next to it are:

ffmpegthumbs, kde-service-menu-face-to-thumbnail. they are both in the repos.

there is also mplayerthumbs doing the same as ffmpegthumbs but with mplayer. 

neowin - this is absolutely disgusting - what happend with the post i did this morning?  :angry:

and why is my old avatar back, the one i ditched a week ago? is my uni proxy ######ed? 

 

 

anyway:the plugins for dolphin i am using are:

ffmpegthumbs

kffmpegthumbnailer

 

and i wrote a 3rd one which i don't have access here to on my notebook so you gonna have to wait till this evening i will look for the plugin again and let you know.

is there a way to remove this rather annoying limit? There are many a video that is well over 4gb and would therefore fall outside this silly limit and not get thumbnailed, or in my testing case, it wouldn't show the cover art.

 

So far this is the only thing that is letting cinnamon down for me, Mint + XFCE on the other hand with tumbler will see any size file and give it a thumbnail (well not psd or mp3).

 

If there is no way (I doubt mind re-compiling) then I guess it will be a move from my current Gentoo systems to Debian for server and Mint XFCE for other machines

 

This is not a limitation imposed by "Cinnamon", this is a limitation of Nemo / Nautlius. You have the very same "Only for files smaller than: <100KB min / 4GB max>" setting in Preferences -> Preview in both of them - Nemo is nothing more but a fork of Nautilus where the Mint guys included some backported features the Gnome nutjobs took out of Nautilus.

 

Anyway, Gnome/Unity (and any other user interface based upon the Gnome 3.xx foundation) will, depending on your distribution specifics, usually thumbnail video/images/... by using the totem-thumbnailer (Totem is now called "Video" in Gnome 3) or gnome-directory-thumbnailer or some gstreamer backend thumbnailer. If memory serves me right (I switched to openSUSE) Mint should use totem-thumbnailer by default.

 

To lift the limit you would have to alter the source code to implement a "Unlimited" option (or add some more steps you can then set in the Preferences), compile your change and finally wrap it up into a installable package. Not exactly the easiest thing to do.

 

However, seeing thumbnails for your various video/image/audio files should actually work by default - in Mint 13 Nemo showed me the included "Front Cover" art for MP3/OGG/FLAC files, it created thumbnails for video files (AVI/WMV/MPG/MP4/MKV/...) and it also created thumbnails for image files.

 

EDIT: There's actually a catch-22. Since the thumbnailers cache to ~/.config/thumbnails (could still also reside at ~/.thumbnails in Mint), and since that directory will start doing a "first in, first out" once you reach the maximum cache size (512MB should be the default), you may see thumbnails getting re-created if their thumb got thrown out of the cache. /EDIT

 

If your currently installed thumbnailer is failing to thumbnail audio files containing embedded front cover art ... switch out the thumbnailer.

 

For example: Install the ffmpeg-thumbnailer (Mint/Ubuntu should be configured to fall back on it) and then pull the "totem.thumbnailer" from /usr/share/thumbnailers so they don't clash (sudo mv /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer /home/<your_username>/Documents). Log out, log back in, open a directory where you had problems ... now it should actually thumbnail, though it won't lift the size limit as the thumbnailer gets invoked by the file manager and will still skip files exceeding the configured file size limit.

As I have already said I have tried ALL thumbnailers, only on XFCE with tumbler do I get  thumbnails for ALL video files, the issue is that KDE and the various thumbnailers on there do not see the embedded cover art.

 

I have the audio thumbs sorted now, found a plugin on kde-look called audio thumbs :)

 

Just need jack to get back to me later with the video addon he uses and if that works I should be all set :)

@ArtistX

 

look above. the posting is finally back!  :D

 

kde-service-menu-face-to-thumbnail is the one.

package info links to:

https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?25740-Service-Menus-with-Dolphin&p=345860&viewfull=1#post345860

 

which might useful for you as well. as an addition you can also check directly the KDE forums, somewhere there is a post giving you info how to install dolphin+ (this is the default file manager in my distro Snapshot-Linux) which also offers you an instant video preview by mouse-hover. yep right, you don't even have to click on anything, you just move your mousepointer over the vid and the preview starts playing.

 

good luck with it. i think you should be able to do this in 10-15 mins and then you have dolphin with everything configurated. 

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