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[gameboy1977]

Mine is Autobots!

 

I like G1: Optimus Prime

Also Dinobots

[Aergan]

Which ever side Omega Supreme, Metroplex and Superion reside.

[gameboy1977]

[margrave]

I still collect gen1 transformer toys. =)

[gameboy1977]

[DConnell Member]

Then there's the issue of which franchise(s) you like. G1, G2, Beast Wars/Machines, RiD, etc.

 

For me it's pretty much everything except IDW, Dreamwave (the two most recent comic companies to have the license) and Kiss Players.

[gameboy1977]

I watched G1 and beast wars, and others. 

[Aergan]

G1, The movie, IDW/Dreamwave & High Moon Studios take on G1. Anything else is dead to me.

[gameboy1977]

do you think that Grimlock is so funny?

 

[DConnell Member]

G1, The movie, IDW/Dreamwave & High Moon Studios take on G1. Anything else is dead to me.

 

The War For Cybertron & Fall of Cybertron games? They're not technically G1 - they're officially "Aligned" - the same universe as the recent Transformers: Prime and Robots in Disguise shows.

 There's too much different from either the cartoon or comics for them to be G1 - too many characters in the games who shouldn't even exist yet if they were G1.

[Aergan]

The War For Cybertron & Fall of Cybertron games? They're not technically G1 - they're officially "Aligned" - the same universe as the recent Transformers: Prime and Robots in Disguise shows.

 There's too much different from either the cartoon or comics for them to be G1 - too many characters in the games who shouldn't even exist yet if they were G1.

 

They can claim it but it doesn't hold water. Same as The War Within (which I forgot to mention). I see it as a re-imagining of G1, especially when the takara figure back story contradicts the marvel comics, which contradicts the 80's cartoon, the movie contradicts both and the further series post-movie contradict everything else. The amount of times Swoop/Divebomb has supposedly or actually died must be something of an on-going joke by now.

[DConnell Member]

They can claim it but it doesn't hold water. Same as The War Within (which I forgot to mention). I see it as a re-imagining of G1, especially when the takara figure back story contradicts the marvel comics, which contradicts the 80's cartoon, the movie contradicts both and the further series post-movie contradict everything else. The amount of times Swoop/Divebomb has supposedly or actually died must be something of an on-going joke by now.

 

You may disagree, but that's the official line. Even the TFWiki pages for the games list them in the Aligned Continuity family. 

 

There's also the new, major concept of Dark Energon, started in FWC, and continued in Prime. It hasn't been included in any other timeline, just Aligned. Bumblebee is rendered mute in FOC, and remains so in Prime. No G1 Bumblebee has ever been unable to speak - that's a Movie/Aligned thing. The establishing shots of Cybertron in Prime are taken directly from WFC. Cliffjumper's head design in FOC is taken directly from his Prime design. Optimus Prime is a former librarian/data clerk, not a former dock/warehouse worker like in War Dawn. Trypticon is reformatted into the Nemesis, Megatron's ship in TF:Prime.

 

Meanwhile, the games feature:

the Aerialbots (born in late season 2 of the show/issue 21 of the comic)

Jetfire/Skyfire, who should either be frozen in Arctic ice at this point or won't be activated until issue 11

Trypticon and Metroplex, who won't show up until 2005 on the show

Dinobots, who either shouldn't exist yet or at least shouldn't have dinomech forms yet. Nor was Shockwave responsible for those forms.

 

 

Basically, the only thing IMO that points to the games being G1 is the character designs, and the same can largely be said of the other franchises. They're all reimaginings of G1 when you get right down to it - the same basic premise and similar characters, but they're each their own entity, rather than part of G1.

 

There's just too many differences for me to accept these games as G1. They're fun, with a great storyline, but they're the backstory for Transformers: Prime, not for G1.

 

The War Within was clearly a G1 prequel - down to giving a "flashforward" to the battle on Shermin Dam from MTMTE episode 2. Dreamwave was clearly set in between season 2 and the movie. I don't like Dreamwave, but they get points for trying to tie it into the original.

 

And IDW . . . well, let's not open that can of worms. Let's just say I don't like it, and don't consider it G1. The portrayals of the characters are just too different (wrong) for me.

[Aergan]

Technically Jetfire was not inside the ark when it crashed into earth in FoC, he's quite possibly frozen in the artic circle at the end of the game (fitting in with G1).

 

They never covered where Metroplex came from in the G1 cartoon, other than it was hinted heavily that Metroplex became a part of Autobot City then was repaired after the battle into a functioning transformer again (this was the intention of the absorbed Scramble City arc originally IIRC). I think Highmoon did a good job of possibly tying up Trypticon's origin (being part of a crashed deception space ship which Megatron constructs in the G1 cartoon). Having the constructions conjuring up a city sized transformer was a bit weak and rushed just for Hasbro to introduce the Scramble City toy.

 

Being as the whole media franchise exists to sell toys, it's a walking mess of contradictions when it comes to what came in from where really.

[DConnell Member]

Technically Jetfire was not inside the ark when it crashed into earth in FoC, he's quite possibly frozen in the artic circle at the end of the game (fitting in with G1).

 

They never covered where Metroplex came from in the G1 cartoon, other than it was hinted heavily that Metroplex became a part of Autobot City then was repaired after the battle into a functioning transformer again (this was the intention of the absorbed Scramble City arc originally IIRC). I think Highmoon did a good job of possibly tying up Trypticon's origin (being part of a crashed deception space ship which Megatron constructs in the G1 cartoon). Having the constructions conjuring up a city sized transformer was a bit weak and rushed just for Hasbro to introduce the Scramble City toy.

 

Being as the whole media franchise exists to sell toys, it's a walking mess of contradictions when it comes to what came in from where really.

 

Jetfire: Yes, but when he woke up he was unaware of the war, so he should have been in the ice during the games if they were G1.

 

Trypticon was explicitly shown being remade into the Nemesis! That ties directly into Prime, like I said. Prime even shows the ship becoming self-aware again and rebellious due to Megatron using Dark Energon on it (another link between the games and Prime. Nothing to do with G1 at all. And while Scramble City does show Metroplex & Trypticon active before 2005 (I'd guesstimate mid-90s), there's nothing in it to suggest that they existed prior to being built on Earth.

 

High Moon did originally conceive of WFC as G1, but ultimately it was placed in the Aligned franchise. And they may have said "making authenticity to the G1 cartoon series as high as possible to be [their] biggest priority", but apart from the character designs, there's very little tying the games to G1. Most of the similarities to G1 are also present in the other franchises as well, and there are too many major contradictions for it to be G1.  Meanwhile in FOC a concerted effort was made in the game to tie it explicitly to Transformers: Prime. So at this point even High Moon themselves consider the games set in the Aligned franchise.

 

You're right that there's a lot of contradiction within the TF franchises, but IMO that doesn't mean one should ignore the continuity that exists and that everything is interchangeable.