After Upgrading to Windows 10, I have "Device Not Migrated" On HDD

[tompkin]

Hello,

I have a 3 1/2 year old Toshiba laptop that came with Windows 7 Home Premium. About a month ago, I upgraded to Windows 10 Home. All went well. No problems noticed on installation.

I used it for awhile fine. Then about a week ago I upgraded to the Professional edition. Again, no errors during installation.

I happen to be in the Defragger app and noticed that it said my HDD was a SSD. I knew that couldn't be right because I've never had a SSD.

I ran the Troubleshooter and got the message shown in the attached file. I searched the net but could not tell exactly what the problem is because everyone's was a little different hardware. Anyone know what could be causing this and what I can do? Thanks.

[Circaflex]

Is this a secondary drive or is this your main boot drive? Is this one of those hybrid(ssd+hdd) drives by chance?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

The standard upgrade path is Windows 7 Home to Windows 10 Home. When you were running Win 10 home did you have this problem?

[tompkin]

This is a regular HDD that is my main drive.

I actually went from Windows  7 Home PREMIUM to Windows 10 Home and then to Windows 10 Professional.

I honestly don't know if it was a problem with Windows 10 Home because I had no errors. I only stumbled upon it by accident this morning when looking at the Defragger app, it said it was a SSD and the defragging options were grayed out.

One thing I did notice when I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 is that my computer seemed to run slightly slower. That surprised me a little bit because I was under the impression that Windows 10 would run the same or faster than Windows 7 but thought that it was just my computer that was somehow a little slower.

 I thought that odd though that I got no error messages. Just since I posted my original message a notification popped up from the notification bar stating that I needed to scan for disk errors. I did the scan but it stills says I have an SSD.

[spaceelf]

Is your machine using any SATA drivers?  (Intel RST or any other.)  They may need to be updated, if possible.

[tompkin]

I don't know. Can I just use an "Update Driver" app on the drive and that would correct it possibly?

 

[tompkin]

I just found that it IS using a SATA controller. Posting the screen clip.

[spaceelf]

It's rare Update Driver will do anything with RAID or SATA controllers.  You'll have to use Intels site to update it...they have pretty good tools to figure out what you need last I checked.

[Circaflex]

  On 10/07/2016 at 17:15, Gary7 said:

The standard upgrade path is Windows 7 Home to Windows 10 Home.

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You mention this because? He said he went to home, then did an upgrade to pro which is fairly standard. Him deciding to upgrade to Pro isn't the cause of this, the core of Windows 10 is Windows 10 no matter the version.

 

  On 10/07/2016 at 17:51, tompkin said:

I just found that it IS using a SATA controller. Posting the screen clip.

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Do you know which chipset you have? If not, download CPU-Z from cpuid.com and under mainboard/motherboard tab it will list the Intel chipset and we can try to point you in the direction for updated SATA drivers. 

 

As a last resort, and I know this is a bummer, you can do a PC Reset and select keeps files and apps, but I think a driver will fix this.

 

 

[Jim K Global Moderator]

Could remove the device (i.e. hard drive) from the device manager and have it re-detected on boot.

 

...or if you're not having any performance issues ... just ignore it.  

[conna]

You can still defrag the drive via elevated command prompt.  >defrag c:

 

[Circaflex]

  On 10/07/2016 at 19:40, jjkusaf said:

Could remove the device (i.e. hard drive) from the device manager and have it re-detected on boot.

 

...or if you're not having any performance issues ... just ignore it.  

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This might even be the quickest solution. Uninstall the device from device manager, reboot and let windows pick the device back up.

[tompkin]

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.  I will do what I can with what you suggested. I have saved all the files I need to save. I will report back here my results in case anyone else has this issue. 

[DevTech]

  On 10/07/2016 at 23:29, tompkin said:

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.  I will do what I can with what you suggested. I have saved all the files I need to save. I will report back here my results in case anyone else has this issue. 

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Um, there is no need to hit this issue with a sledgehammer!

 

Just need the right driver.

 

Your laptop is old enough that it falls into a "play it safe" area where Microsoft installs their own drivers in preference to the optimal driver. I'm saying this from experience upgrading quite a few older computers. The "refresh your computer" thing and a clean install does not help at all in these cases because it is actually the root cause of the issue! It gets worse! Every time Microsoft does a major update such as the one coming on August 2, it re-does the entire driver stack again as if it was a new install and ends up installing crappy drivers. On one of my older computers about 10 incorrect drivers get installed and I'm lucky it still boots after an update...

 

I'm a hug fan of Windows 10 so I'm not complaining, it is just a new Windows piece of setup knowledge to remember and project against by keeping a directory of all the correct drivers on these computers.

 

In your case, you need to install the latest drivers from Intel.com after every major Windows update and everything should be fine. If this is you main computer, a real SSD is highly recommended cause I know you do Dev work sometimes and it's a larger difference for that than the usual speed up people perceive.

 

Also, although in most cases the latest drivers from Intel.com and NVIDIA.com are the best choice, sometimes with laptops the manufacturers drivers are better. Sometimes laptop manufacturers are decent and add new drivers to their site for a new Windows. So check Toshiba.com

 

I'm very careful with my equipment, so what I usually do is install laptop manufacturer drivers first even if they are a bit old, reboot, and then install the latest "proper" drivers from Intel etc. That way I can rollback if I suspect an issue.

 

I am hoping I catch you soon enough so you don't get stuck in a war with the crap from Windows Update.

 

 

[tompkin]

Thanks +DevTech, I was just getting ready to start working on this. It's a shame I have to go through this everytime a major update happens.

[DevTech]

  On 12/07/2016 at 17:47, tompkin said:

Thanks +DevTech, I was just getting ready to start working on this. It's a shame I have to go through this everytime a major update happens.

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Well, it might just be a glitch - just because I have 3 older computers that seem to fall into this strange timeline canyon of hell doesn't mean yours is the same.

 

But to quote Spock "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the one" this new method means that for the majority of people the extra heavy duty updating gives them a snappy like-new computer as good as a new install so I can intellectually see how most people are better served by a rather smart move by Microsoft. But I'll hold back a little judgement on this issue until I observe how all my computers old and new make it through the Aug 2 update which looks like the largest one so far...

 

 

[tompkin]

Well, I thought I'd report back on this.

I went to the Intel site and it said that it detected an outdated SATI driver. Also a couple of drivers related to graphics. I told it to download and install all.

It did so and everything seems fine but no joy on the migration message. I think I'm just going to live with it because it's not really hurting me . The only reason I really cared was that Defraggler reported that my drive was 19% fragmented. It said it was going to take 16 hours to complete! I thought if I ran the Windows defragged it might not do as good a job but it would improve things and take less time. As someone said I could run defrag at an elevated command prompt I may try that.

Trying to run Visual Studio 2015 is pushing the machine to it's limits. I've got 6 gigs RAM which is fine, but it requires a 1.6 ghz processor and mine is 1.7ghz. I may end up having to buy a new machine.

[DevTech]

  On 13/07/2016 at 15:08, tompkin said:

Well, I thought I'd report back on this.

I went to the Intel site and it said that it detected an outdated SATI driver. Also a couple of drivers related to graphics. I told it to download and install all.

It did so and everything seems fine but no joy on the migration message. I think I'm just going to live with it because it's not really hurting me . The only reason I really cared was that Defraggler reported that my drive was 19% fragmented. It said it was going to take 16 hours to complete! I thought if I ran the Windows defragged it might not do as good a job but it would improve things and take less time. As someone said I could run defrag at an elevated command prompt I may try that.

Trying to run Visual Studio 2015 is pushing the machine to it's limits. I've got 6 gigs RAM which is fine, but it requires a 1.6 ghz processor and mine is 1.7ghz. I may end up having to buy a new machine.

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Windows 10 defrags automatically. If that is not happening then it needs more empty space to work right.

 

100 mhz of CPU won't make a difference. More RAM or a SSD will make a difference, for CPU, more cores, i7 more important than raw speed - insanely many Toshiba, Lenovo, Dell, and HP laptops were sold to businesses with only 2 cores instead of 4. Good enough for email, not so much for other stuff.

 

I once compared VS load times and found that increasing RAM from 4 gig to 8 gig produced the same acceleration as staying with 4 gig and switching to SSD. So both should be nice but if I had to choose, I would go with lots and lots and lots of RAM.

 

 

[nekrosoft13]

any chance you have one of those laptops that has Intel Rapid Start Tech?

Rapid Start is service that uses a small cache SSD drive (8-16-32GB) SSD with your Hard drive to act as a extended cache.

 

Intel Rapid Start tech was introduced with windows 7, but it was never upgraded to work on windows 10....

 

So if you had it installed before, the good move would have been to uninstall it, before upgrading to 10.

 

https://communities.intel.com/thread/78079

[tompkin]

  On 14/07/2016 at 14:08, nekrosoft13 said:

any chance you have one of those laptops that has Intel Rapid Start Tech?

Rapid Start is service that uses a small cache SSD drive (8-16-32GB) SSD with your Hard drive to act as a extended cache.

 

Intel Rapid Start tech was introduced with windows 7, but it was never upgraded to work on windows 10....

 

So if you had it installed before, the good move would have been to uninstall it, before upgrading to 10.

 

https://communities.intel.com/thread/78079

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You know, that just might be it. One of the little stickers that they put on the laptop says 'Toshiba Hi-speed Start Technology.'

[tompkin]

  On 13/07/2016 at 21:51, DevTech said:

Windows 10 defrags automatically. If that is not happening then it needs more empty space to work right.

 

100 mhz of CPU won't make a difference. More RAM or a SSD will make a difference, for CPU, more cores, i7 more important than raw speed - insanely many Toshiba, Lenovo, Dell, and HP laptops were sold to businesses with only 2 cores instead of 4. Good enough for email, not so much for other stuff.

 

I once compared VS load times and found that increasing RAM from 4 gig to 8 gig produced the same acceleration as staying with 4 gig and switching to SSD. So both should be nice but if I had to choose, I would go with lots and lots and lots of RAM.

 

 

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+devtech, I have 6gig of RAM, plenty of HDD space and i5 processor (don't know what generation, but about 3 1/2 years old.

[DevTech]

  On 15/07/2016 at 23:07, tompkin said:

+devtech, I have 6gig of RAM, plenty of HDD space and i5 processor (don't know what generation, but about 3 1/2 years old.

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If you have quad core i5 then thats good.

 

6 gig means a 4gig dimm and a 2 gig dimm. If it is DDR2, then buy a 4 gig DIMM to get 8g

 

if itis DDR3, then buy 2 8 gig DIMMS to get 16g

 

Replace the hard drive with a large Samsung 850 Pro SSD

 

Before any of that, verify your i5 has the hardware instructions to run Hyper-V and also make sure you are running Windows 10 Pro, but don't upgrade to Pro until you verify your i5 has the SLAT etc instructions for Hyper-V