CryptUp (free version): Makes using PGP with gmail dirt simple for the average joe

[+Warwagon MVC]

 

 

https://cryptup.org/

 

I was impressed how simple it was to setup PGP with Gmail and also how transparent it was once setup. It's now simple enough for the average joe, that is if they actually cared enough to use it.

 

for the free version there is no account to sign into, so you can backup your keys and import them onto a new computer. So I look like the keys are stored in chrome. 

 

I had some PGP keys laying around that setup for thunderbird a while ago with using Enigmail and they imported into cryptup just fine.

 

Has anyone else tried this?

 

 

[Draconian Guppy]

I'm always weary about giving my password to anything else , be it software or person.

I'm curious, if I/you don't work in the NSA,FBI, etc.  why is there a need for this? If you are scared of snooping why not use Yandex or some other country where the US has no powers/jurisdiction over it? 

[+Warwagon MVC]

  On 22/02/2017 at 16:57, Draconian Guppy said:

If you are scared of snooping why not use Yandex or some other country where the US has no powers/jurisdiction over it? 

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What stops Yandex from snooping?

[+BudMan MVC]

How exactly would this stop the nsa or any other black helicopter orgs from snooping.. They would just have a key logger on your machine on the email before you send it encrypted anyway   They could have a live feed of everything on your screen for that matter

 

Sending encrypted email with gmail or any other email system has always been drop dead simple.. Just highlight copy, then encrypt your clipboard to who you want and then paste..

 

 

I don't see why this is so difficult for user to grasp??  This is really drop dead simple stuff people..

[Draconian Guppy]

  On 22/02/2017 at 17:14, warwagon said:

What stops Yandex from snooping?

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I think yandex openly admits they do    but it's russians so i dunno? same with asian mails, they are "openly" monitored 

[Circaflex]

There are three providers I know of, that provide encrypted email and do not monitor the contents.

 

Protonmail - Switzerland

Tutanota - Germany

Mailfence - Belgium

 

But, like @BudMan mentioned, it is easier to encrypt the contents on your own, I use gpg4usb https://www.gpg4usb.org/.

[+Warwagon MVC]

  On 22/02/2017 at 19:52, Circaflex said:

But, like @BudMan mentioned, it is easier to encrypt the contents on your own, I use gpg4usb https://www.gpg4usb.org/.

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I checked that program out, but I don't see in there where you are able to create your keys. I just see where it lets you use your existing keys.

 

Never mind, I found it. Once I read the help document it was easy, but generating a key should be part of the setup wizard. It should have asked you if you need to create a key. So while it's easy for us, I'm going to say it's not easy for the average person. I know it's as simple as clicking Key/key Management/key/  generate key. 

 

As a test, I should give that program to my dad and ask him to use it. I'd call him an average user. My mom, on the other hand, is the opposite, she's pretty good.

 

 

[+BudMan MVC]

sure looks like a wizard to me

 

I have used https://www.gpg4win.org/

 

And it also has a wizard.. Users that don't understand the whole concept of key pair, and that they would need to have one or create one - while sure your average user, has zero use for encrypting email.  The only thing that will happen is they encrypt something and then not be able to unencrypt it, etc.

 

Also used http://www.jumaros.de/rsoft/index.html

back in the day, etc.

 

There are lots of gui tools for windows user for gnupg.. If they don't like just using cmd line

 

[+Warwagon MVC]

  On 23/02/2017 at 17:34, BudMan said:

sure looks like a wizard to me

 

 

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Oh ya, there it is.

[oldtimefighter]

This is easier than just using an email provider like Protonmail or Tutanota? Personally, I would just use Signal messenger to send something secure which is even easier.

[+Warwagon MVC]

  On 23/02/2017 at 20:31, oldtimefighter said:

This is easier than just using an email provider like Protonmail or Tutanota? Personally, I would just use Signal messenger to send something secure which is even easier.

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Well I tried it with someone who had never used pgp before and he had it setup in just a few mins and were sending encrypted emails back and forth to test it.

[+BudMan MVC]

And now you have drawn the attention of the black helicopter guys, and they are going through all your email now.. Prob have your house bugged already..

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[PGHammer]

  On 23/02/2017 at 17:34, BudMan said:

sure looks like a wizard to me

 

I have used https://www.gpg4win.org/

 

And it also has a wizard.. Users that don't understand the whole concept of key pair, and that they would need to have one or create one - while sure your average user, has zero use for encrypting email.  The only thing that will happen is they encrypt something and then not be able to unencrypt it, etc.

 

Also used http://www.jumaros.de/rsoft/index.html

back in the day, etc.

 

There are lots of gui tools for windows user for gnupg.. If they don't like just using cmd line

 

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That is because the original PGP for Windows also used wizards for the process (prior to their acquisition by Symantec, after Symantec acquired them, and since they were spun off by Symantec) - the original PGP was entirely CLI-driven (as it was a DOS/Linux-distribution, and UNIX program - none of the three used a GUI).