Ryzen is a monster, Intel preparing 12 core desktop CPU to combat it

[Yogurth]

According to various benchmark leaks over the past several days, compiled and analyzed in the video below AMD Ryzen 1700X and 1800X are beating Intel i7 6950X (10/20 CPU that costs over 1700$) in synthetic multithreaded benchmarks. Apparently Intel has no chip in their desktop lineup to counter the Ryzen and some info appeared that they will go for 12 core solution ASAP. It is really crazy how fast AMD's baby seems to be.

 

 

[spaceelf]

I believe some of it, but I'm not going to crow about it until the reviews and product are actually out.  All this half baked prerelease hype is just so much noise.

[TPreston]

1 minute ago, LostCat said:

I believe some of it, but I'm not going to crow about it until the reviews and product are actually out.  All this half baked prerelease hype is just so much noise.

No Mans Sky...

[Brandon H Supervisor]

if Ryzen can help drive prices down that's all I really care about in the end

[Yogurth]

9 minutes ago, LostCat said:

I believe some of it, but I'm not going to crow about it until the reviews and product are actually out.  All this half baked prerelease hype is just so much noise.

Of course these are to be taken with a grain of salt, but considering that the information from multiple sources is more or less the same I am leaning towards these being legit. In the end we are few days from NDA lift, but this makes me truly excited even if I will not build Ryzen PC any time soon as i7 3770k still works well for what I need it.

[Jim K Global Moderator]

13 minutes ago, Brandon H said:

if Ryzen can help drive prices down that's all I really care about in the end

Prices down ... performance up.  

 

I hope all the hype is real ... and Intel responds in kind. 

 

Competition is good ...

[StrikedOut]

I'm still trying to see the benefit of replacing my 3rd gen i7. My PC doesnt skip a beat in any games, most are played on high settings and if anything, replacing the GPU would be top of my list otherwise I can't justify replacing anything.

 

However, I am glad AMD are finally back in the race, Intel have dominated for far too long.

[spaceelf]

15 minutes ago, StrikedOut said:

I'm still trying to see the benefit of replacing my 3rd gen i7. My PC doesnt skip a beat in any games, most are played on high settings and if anything, replacing the GPU would be top of my list otherwise I can't justify replacing anything.

 

However, I am glad AMD are finally back in the race, Intel have dominated for far too long.

A lot of people still think their 2600k or older kit is still good enough, and there are a lot of situations where it really isn't.  I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people think their kit is better than it is...I know I did.

 

(related article, not mine obviously - ) http://techreport.com/review/31410/a-bridge-too-far-migrating-from-sandy-to-kaby-lake

[spaceelf]

42 minutes ago, Yogurth said:

Of course these are to be taken with a grain of salt, but considering that the information from multiple sources is more or less the same I am leaning towards these being legit. In the end we are few days from NDA lift, but this makes me truly excited even if I will not build Ryzen PC any time soon as i7 3770k still works well for what I need it.

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that it's noise.  I'd far rather have a general picture of games people actually play and storage benchmarks and other things that will affect me directly rather than a few nigh useless general purpose benchmarks and some games I don't even care about.

 

I just think it'll be worth the wait just to have reviews from people who put the time and effort into giving you the whole picture.

[Rippleman]

I believe I may finally update both of my desktops here at home (one is sons). Will be going from an e8400 and a q6600.  They served me/us well.

[Yogurth]

18 minutes ago, LostCat said:

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that it's noise.  I'd far rather have a general picture of games people actually play and storage benchmarks and other things that will affect me directly rather than a few nigh useless general purpose benchmarks and some games I don't even care about.

 

I just think it'll be worth the wait just to have reviews from people who put the time and effort into giving you the whole picture.

At the 5:15 mark of the video there is a screenshot of a sheet with various benchmarks and power consumption (this is also surprising how efficient Ryzen is) , the lower half of the table is filled with gaming benchmarks. Even here Ryzen looks good.

[T3X4S]

1 hour ago, Brandon H said:

if Ryzen can help drive prices down that's all I really care about in the end

A few days ago intel slashed prices on a bunch of chips - the 6950X dropped 35% I believe.
Some, dropped as much as 50%.

This is great for consumers for that simple fact.
If this chip comes out and is just marginally fast, it still help competition.
If it comes out to be a world-beater, intel's response might be the real thing to hope for.

If Ryzen is comparable to intel's flagship chip @ $500 less, then intel;s next launch might be a real jump, and something for other's to take note of when it comes time to upgrade.

Like I said in the other Ryzen threads - I will wait until I see real-world performance metrics.

Synthetic benchmarks mean next to nothing to me.  A graph showing a huge performance delta could simply be a millisecond of difference.

[Luc2k]

29 minutes ago, LostCat said:

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that it's noise.  I'd far rather have a general picture of games people actually play and storage benchmarks and other things that will affect me directly rather than a few nigh useless general purpose benchmarks and some games I don't even care about.

 

I just think it'll be worth the wait just to have reviews from people who put the time and effort into giving you the whole picture.

Here's the 1700X gaming leak. We'll know soon enough.

[Anibal P]

I've yet to see any REAL numbers to back up all the hype AMD is pushing, thing is they have been full of it in the past and rather not get stung, again, by them 

[Yogurth]

1 hour ago, Jim K said:

Prices down ... performance up.  

 

I hope all the hype is real ... and Intel responds in kind. 

 

Competition is good ...

Must be real as I don't remember seeing this sort of price slashing across the entire Intel's CPU line-up...ever. It certainly isn't a coincidence.

[xendrome]

Microcenter doing a standard sale on their CPU's = "Intel is Price Slashjing OMGGZZZ"

[atcapistrano]

3 hours ago, Brandon H said:

if Ryzen can help drive prices down that's all I really care about in the end

intel cpu lineup is going down while amd ryzen cpu is going up!? a far cry from the fx cpu price years ago... amd is now dictating cpu prices...

[JustGeorge]

Just checked newegg. Intel cpus still over-priced as ever.

 

If intel releases this 12 core/24 thread cpu on anything other than a mainstream chipset (z170-z270), its not going to help them.

 

God I hope Ryzen lives up to the hype.....

 

[Circaflex]

3 hours ago, T3X4S said:

Synthetic benchmarks mean next to nothing to me.  A graph showing a huge performance delta could simply be a millisecond of difference.

Thank you for saying this, it amazes me how many people do not realize this when looking at graphs. They see a huge bar graph, yet the difference is minimal when you check the axis and see what is being compared. I hope this all turns out true, I'd love to run another AMD rig.

[trag3dy]

Competition is good.

 

When I get around to building another pc in 2-3 years I hope to benefit from this.

[Mando]

11 hours ago, Yogurth said:

According to various benchmark leaks over the past several days, compiled and analyzed in the video below AMD Ryzen 1700X and 1800X are beating Intel i7 6950X (10/20 CPU that costs over 1700$) in synthetic multithreaded benchmarks. Apparently Intel has no chip in their desktop lineup to counter the Ryzen and some info appeared that they will go for 12 core solution ASAP. It is really crazy how fast AMD's baby seems to be.

 

 

Err Intel were always releasing the 6 core (12 threads) CPUs after Kabylake q3 2017. this has been known for some time buddy, its got diddly squad to do with AMDs Ryzen.

 

Ill wait for real world tests and not ones fabricated by AMD to beef up their retail offerings, they all do it.

 

I hope they are as potent as they claim, competition is good and Intel will step up a gear again.

[Yogurth]

3 hours ago, Mando said:

Err Intel were always releasing the 6 core (12 threads) CPUs after Kabylake q3 2017. this has been known for some time buddy, its got diddly squad to do with AMDs Ryzen.

 

Ill wait for real world tests and not ones fabricated by AMD to beef up their retail offerings, they all do it.

 

I hope they are as potent as they claim, competition is good and Intel will step up a gear again.

No not 6 core, 12 core/24 threads in X line  to replace i7 6950X.

[Mando]

5 hours ago, Yogurth said:

No not 6 core, 12 core/24 threads in X line  to replace i7 6950X.

ahh sorry, see what you meant now  

[spaceelf]

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-review-leak-gaming-overclock-benchmarks/

Things are looking good on that leak.  Not perfect, but good.  I'm still planning to get a 1600X though I think...not sure yet.

 

And I still need to see Tech Reports frame time info and price/perf graph.

[Crisp]