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7 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

@Circaflex What can I do with $800/mo, and for SSI, I can't have more than $2000 in my banking account. I don't work.

 

@game_over I pay her $525, plus $25, half of Internet cost. So $550

 

@SoCalRox I would if I could, but I can't drive. I don't work. So there's almost no income. I'm also afraid to be alone, this happened ever since I started having seizures.

 

@Rigby My income will never change, except from cost of living stuff...

 

 

I dont know why you quoted me to say that, I said in order to comfortably live on your own, I recommend your monthly wage be 2.5x your rent(so if your rent is 500 a month, you should bring in at minimum ~1250). I am well aware of what you said you bring in a month, I was just giving a general thought that I go by or recommend to those first time mover-outers. 

 

If you will only ever make that amount, you might want to find some roommates to help decrease the cost of living. If these are not options for you, I suggest having a sit down with your mother and being very straight forward with her. Bring up the things you said in this thread. If she still doesnt budge, there isn't anything any of us can do and it might be one of those things you just need to "deal with."

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4 minutes ago, TAZMINATOR said:

I doubt it but try to tell her that she's imagining in her mind ... 

 

Tell her that your monitor goes off after the movie finishes.    Ask her if this bothers her, kindly ask her to close her door so she wouldn't worry about it. Including your door.

 

If not working, then there is only way to solve this is move out on your own if you can find a place based on your budget. If not, get a place that you can share with somebody so you both can split the bills.

 

If she doesn't believe this, ask her to come up after 2 hours after you start a movie.  She will see it in action then she will believe you from now on.

 

If your room has window, then she might be thinking of the glare is coming from the window such as lamppost/streetlight...  something like that... If so, you can cover the window with dark sheet or towel depends on how big the window is.

first sentence made me laugh... I'd go more toward with her eyesight...

 

I told her about this, she doesn't believe me. We both close our doors, not all the way, but just a creak open.

 

Yeah, but all my friends are spread around the world and married. I'd be risking my life with a stranger.

 

I think she "said" she say my monitor on, when she went to the bathroom at night around 3AM. My room is parallel to the bathroom. Doors meet each other.

 

I have drapes closed at the windows at night. there's little light that could ever come in.

3 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

I dont know why you quoted me to say that, I said in order to comfortably live on your own, I recommend your monthly wage be 2.5x your rent(so if your rent is 500 a month, you should bring in at minimum ~1250). I am well aware of what you said you bring in a month, I was just giving a general thought that I go by or recommend to those first time mover-outers. 

 

If you will only ever make that amount, you might want to find some roommates to help decrease the cost of living. If these are not options for you, I suggest having a sit down with your mother and being very straight forward with her. Bring up the things you said in this thread. If she still doesnt budge, there isn't anything any of us can do and it might be one of those things you just need to "deal with."

If I'm not making $1k/mo, how can I save that money? That's what I'm getting at.

3 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

If I'm not making $1k/mo, how can I save that money? That's what I'm getting at.

I am so lost and confused as to why you are asking me. I am not sure why you chose 1k, but you can save money no matter the income you make. You need to be financially smart and get rid of luxuries. I honestly dont know what kind of answer you want from me and I still cant figure out why you are asking me this.

9 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

first sentence made me laugh... I'd go more toward with her eyesight...

 

I told her about this, she doesn't believe me. We both close our doors, not all the way, but just a creak open.

 

Yeah, but all my friends are spread around the world and married. I'd be risking my life with a stranger.

 

I think she "said" she say my monitor on, when she went to the bathroom at night around 3AM. My room is parallel to the bathroom. Doors meet each other.

 

I have drapes closed at the windows at night. there's little light that could ever come in.

Since you have cranked door open ... maybe she caught the glare before she went to bathroom before the monitor gets shut down.  If so, tell her "don't worry ... it goes off every time I start a movie... I am not leaving it on all night..    I have the timer set in the settings".... Show the settings to her and she will believe.

1 minute ago, Circaflex said:

I am so lost and confused as to why you are asking me. I am not sure why you chose 1k, but you can save money no matter the income you make. You need to be financially smart and get rid of luxuries. I honestly dont know what kind of answer you want from me and I still cant figure out why you are asking me this.

I'm asking you, because you seem to have a better idea. Unless you are a smart aleck, which I can not change.

 

1 minute ago, TAZMINATOR said:

Since you have cranked door open ... maybe she caught the glare before she went to bathroom before the monitor gets shut down.  If so, tell her "don't worry ... it goes off every time I start a movie... I am not leaving it on all night..    I have the timer set in the settings".... Show the settings to her and she will believe.

Haha, She doesn't know ###### about computers. Linux at that. I can try that, see how far I get...

1 minute ago, Mindovermaster said:

I'm asking you, because you seem to have a better idea. Unless you are a smart aleck, which I can not change.

 

Haha, She doesn't know ###### about computers. Linux at that. I can try that, see how far I get...

A better idea of what? How to save money? First thing would be to drop anything unncessary to living, IE cable TV, rearrange the phone plan, internet, etc. I dont know how you live now, nor do I know what you spend money on. From what you have described, you need to find a roommate. I guess that is my answer.

 

Have you thought about showing her the setup in action? Set if the way you do currently, have her come in the room and fast forward a movie to the end so she can see if shut off.

We don't have Cable. I am on lowest plan for my cell phone. I'd only use mid-range Internet. Not the <1MB down ######... 

 

You want her to wait 10 minutes with me? LOL...

4 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

We don't have Cable. I am on lowest plan for my cell phone. I'd only use mid-range Internet. Not the <1MB down ######... 

 

You want her to wait 10 minutes with me? LOL...

Look, only you can make the decision. Have the damn talk with her, show her it in action. Why 10 minutes? It should take you just a few minutes to show her how it works. If your own mother wont spend a few minutes with you in order for you to demonstrate something, well she sounds like a terrible parent. Why do you keep shooting down valid advice? What more do you want from us? And your first sentence shows, you are not ready to live on your own, so you will either need to have the talk or just deal with it. Internet is a luxury, especially top tier, so if you arent willing to sacrifice small things in order to live on your own, you will be stuck with mom and dad.

38 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

It is fairly normal, but that also might depend on the state. I think I was paying 400-500 while I was in college, which is a huge bargain in the area I live in. Single studios out here go for minimum $900 in a "decent" area. So while, that might seem like a lot, it isn't enough to live on your own, at least in my area.

Thanks for the information.

 

38 minutes ago, SoCalRox said:

If my daughter had told me to shut up, or my stepson tried, they would find their things on the front porch and the door locked, with their keys in my hand. Even if you pay rent, that does not give you a right to be rude to your parents, and it doesn't mean you get to set your own rules.

 

As to $550... it depends on the house and where it is. Lots of variables.

Sorry, I did not mean it so literal - I would have found myself in the same position.

 

I just meant, paying that much (here in the UK at least thats very high - regardless of area its more than 50% of income) I'd be expecting not to have them on my back over small things like leaving a TV on.

17 minutes ago, Circaflex said:

Look, only you can make the decision. Have the damn talk with her, show her it in action. Why 10 minutes? It should take you just a few minutes to show her how it works. If your own mother wont spend a few minutes with you in order for you to demonstrate something, well she sounds like a terrible parent. Why do you keep shooting down valid advice? What more do you want from us? And your first sentence shows, you are not ready to live on your own, so you will either need to have the talk or just deal with it. Internet is a luxury, especially top tier, so if you arent willing to sacrifice small things in order to live on your own, you will be stuck with mom and dad.

You didn't catch that, did you... It takes 10 minutes of no movement for the screen to shut off.....

 

She's extra protective of me, she's Mrs. Perfect. How can you ever change that?

 

I'm not shooting down advice, I'm telling you as it is. I've tried nearly all this stuff before. I am telling you, it will not work. Why am I asking you? Because I'm about to loose my head...

 

Am I ready to live alone? Have you read everything I said thus far? Sounds like you're missing information here.

 

I dealt with this for all my life, why are you trying to act like I'm a young child?

 

Talking isn't an option here, I can bet you that for $1000.

4 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

You didn't catch that, did you... It takes 10 minutes of no movement for the screen to shut off.....

So grab her after 7 or 8 minutes have gone by so there are only 2 minutes left?

 

5 minutes ago, Mindovermaster said:

Am I ready to live alone? Have you read everything I said thus far? Sounds like you're missing information here.

I am basing it off of what you have said. You do not make enough to live on your own, from what you have said and you don't sound like you're willing to give up some extra luxuries in order to live on your own. I am just basing my conclusions off the information you have given.

 

I am just unsure what advice you want if talking is not an option. I dunno, but I think I have given enough input, I am outta here.

1 minute ago, Circaflex said:

So grab her after 7 or 8 minutes have gone by so there are only 2 minutes left?

 

I am basing it off of what you have said. You do not make enough to live on your own, from what you have said and you don't sound like you're willing to give up some extra luxuries in order to live on your own. I am just basing my conclusions off the information you have given.

 

I am just unsure what advice you want if talking is not an option. I dunno, but I think I have given enough input, I am outta here.

Extra luxeries? Other than my cell phone or Internet, I don't really pay for anything else...

It seems with all of the very good advice given to you, you're still at an impasse.  Only you can resolve this with your Mom.  So bite the bullet and talk to her and carefully explain the situation/issues.  If that fails, you'll have to make changes and adapt.  Good luck. 

5 hours ago, Raze said:

It seems with all of the very good advice given to you, you're still at an impasse.  Only you can resolve this with your Mom.  So bite the bullet and talk to her and carefully explain the situation/issues.  If that fails, you'll have to make changes and adapt.  Good luck. 

Ain't that the truth...

 

I found 100 ways to adapt that my mom doesn't even know about.

 

Took us (Dad and me) long enough to get her to keep the Modem on at night...

In all honesty, I think the only advice needed here is to turn your monitor off like she's asking you too. For as long as you cannot afford to move out, you live under her rules, regardless of whether you agree with them or not. Unless you can figure out exactly what she's complaining about (because it seems you haven't) then you can't "fix it" and neither can we.

 

If you're unsure about whether you can afford to move out then you need setup a monthly budget and work it out, it won't take you too long. It's simple, how much money comes in, how much money will need to go out to live - saving has nothing to do with this other than maybe being able to put down a deposit/buy furniture. 

 

If you can't afford to get your own place, you'll get it for a lot cheaper and chances are bills will end up included to make it easier to budget for.

 

 

 

 

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I presume that the computer is located in your bedroom, since you're sticking the film on to help you sleep? Do you sleep with the bedroom door open? If so, can you not close it? If she also complains about light coming from under the door, use a draft excluder or some such thing to block the bottom or the door so the light can't get out.

Set the media player to turn of your PC once the movie is finished. That still doesn't resolve the issue if she drops by while the movie is playing. Maybe she means noise from the case running when she says monitor.

 

At any rate, I'd say shut the system down and listen to audiobooks on your phone & earphones. See if that has the same effect of putting you to sleep.

On 3/29/2017 at 4:21 PM, Mindovermaster said:


 

 I would if I could, but I can't drive. I don't work. So there's almost no income. I'm also afraid to be alone, this happened ever since I started having seizures.

 

 

 

 

Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you have no income it is up to you to remedy that. Don't use seizures as an excuse.

 

That is not meant to be critical or cold, just realistic. The world cares little that I can't walk on my own or that you have seizures. Grab the world by the b*lls and take it on.

On 3/29/2017 at 5:22 PM, Mindovermaster said:

You didn't catch that, did you... It takes 10 minutes of no movement for the screen to shut off.....

 

She's extra protective of me, she's Mrs. Perfect. How can you ever change that?

 

I'm not shooting down advice, I'm telling you as it is. I've tried nearly all this stuff before. I am telling you, it will not work. Why am I asking you? Because I'm about to loose my head...

 

Am I ready to live alone? Have you read everything I said thus far? Sounds like you're missing information here.

 

I dealt with this for all my life, why are you trying to act like I'm a young child?

 

Talking isn't an option here, I can bet you that for $1000.

Mind... a few points for you to learn. (Gads, that sounds snarky- please take that as meant in kindness, not coldness. I seem to need to keep explaining that in this thread...)

1. Adjust the time to blank the screen to less. 
2. Protective? She's your mom. I hope some day there is a Mindoverminor that comes into your life, and then you'll understand. We're parents. We're here to make sure our kids grow up to be good adults. We love our kids, but we owe them parents, not buddies. You remind me of everyone your age (-ish) I've ever known. You actually seem like a pretty good guy because you are trying to find a way to resolve this, and not turn it into a big explosive fight. That's maturity, and I know people my own age- I'm in my 60s- that still haven't figured that out. Cut your mom a little slack. Just as it is your job to want to spread the wings and escape into the world, it's her job to protect you, watch over you, and prepare you for that time. But especially for moms, that last step is really hard.

 

As to living alone- you will be ready once you realize you are. When I was 18, I was indeed ready. My 20 year old stepson is not ready, though in many ways he is a much better and stronger person than I was back then. Don't push yourself into it before you know you are ready. 

Try to talk with your mom again, and do so calmly and with a good list of points to make. Even if she loses her cool, hold yours tightly. Do what you can from letting it turn heated. But also accept that it is still her home, and thus, her rules.

 

Good luck, Mind. 

Seizures was only one part of that, but it really caused me to jump off the bridge. I won't go into the big story here, but I have had a lot of medical mishaps in my life.

 

The #1 reason my mom is protective of me is because i had a brain tumor at age 3. Ever since then, everything I wanted to try, she swats it down, saying it is too dangerous. I never took gym in Middle or High School because of this. It's too dangerous. This is what I mean by overprotective.

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In the box F4-425 Pro TNAS device Power adapter LAN cable (CAT 6) Quick guide [full online guide] Limited warranty notice Screws (for HDD bays) Stickers 2x rubber feet (spares) Design As has become kind of common with TerraMaster, certainly in the last three years, the 2025 F2- and F4-series have received a makeover that really adds to the premium feel of the NAS. Gone are the plastic shells, now replaced with an aluminum outer shell, with the front and back retaining the textured black plastic we saw on the 2024 models. Some key differences from the 2024 series include placing the power button back on the front, along with the addition of a Type A USB port. It's not much bigger or heavier either; in fact, it weighs 500 grams less than the F4-424 Pro. It's slightly shorter in height and depth (length), but only by a few millimeters. The front and back do retain a similar style to the 2024 series. On the front, you just have your four bays along with LED indicators for the HDDs and power. The welcomed change is having a USB port on the front for quick access, should you need to back up a USB drive, for example. Around the back, from top to bottom, you have a reset pin hole, an HDMI port, two 5 GbE Ethernet ports, two USB 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Type A ports with a Type-C port below them, and a connector for the barrel port power source. Again, there's no Kensington Security Slot present, which is a bit of a shame considering it's a data storage device. Left side Right side On the left and right of the F4-425 Plus, it is completely smooth aluminum with a TERRAMASTER logo printed on both sides. On the bottom, there are some holes to assist ventilation. Unlike with the F4-425 Plus, the rubber feet did come unstuck during the teardown, which was also an issue on the 2023 series. It seems like other customers have lodged complaints about them, as TerraMaster now includes two spare rubber feet in the box, in case any of the preinstalled ones are lost; however, this seems more like a papering over the cracks solution rather than actually fixing the issue with better quality rubber stand-offs. There are also four screws that must be removed in order to access the internals. Teardown Upon removing the four screws, you can slide the device out of its shell to reveal the three NVMe M.2 slots (PCIe 3.0 X1) and single SODIMM slot connector, which is populated with a single 16GB DDR5 4800MT/s module. I added a couple of MP44Q M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSDs (2 x 4TB) that can be availed on Amazon for $492.99 that TEAMGROUP supplied us with, along with a 250GB 970 Evo Plus that my colleague Chris White sent me by accident and let me keep a few years ago. As I have said in previous reviews, TerraMaster support staff actually encourage installing whatever you want on their devices, and happily, the USB port for the bootloader is now easily accessible should you want to use it for your own flavor of NAS OS, such as TrueNAS, Unraid, or maybe Xpenology. Yes, because TerraMaster has now switched to a 256 GB NAND Flash card (3rd photo above) for the TOS bootloader. This is also replaceable, but you can also simply add a USB bootloader, access the BIOS, and tell the F4-425 Pro to boot from that instead of the Flash card. Unlike earlier iterations of TerraMaster NAS, you don't have to tear this down any further than the four screws on the outer shell in order to be able to access and manage the memory, NVMe slots, and USB bootloader. However, if you need to access the NAND Flash card or CMOS battery, then eight more screws (four on each side) need to be removed in order to take off the rear panel with the 120mm fan, and then the motherboard can be lifted off and removed from the SATA connector PCB. There's also no risk of threading the screw holes, because the four that hold the shell in place are metal on metal, while the screws that hold the rear panel on do screw into plastic. Either way, like last time when I reviewed the F4-425 plus, I was just happier to see larger screws being used. Overall, it follows some great improvements in build quality from the 2024 series and earlier. Setup BIOS The F4-425 Pro includes an Aptio BIOS from American Megatrends [1, 2], and you can setup pretty much everything here including the boot order, which is locked to the UEFI OS, however above that choice you can enable or disable booting to the USB bootloader so this would still allow you to switch to a USB stick with an alternative bootloader and boot from it, or disable it to instead always start from the first disk with an OS installed on it. Initial Setup Setup is roughly the same as the F4-425 Plus, along with the new TOS 7 setup dialogs, so there will be no surprises here. Upon connecting to the LAN and booting up, the F4-425 Pro can be reached by navigating to http://tnas.local. If that doesn't work, you can use the local address assigned via DHCP, which you can find using the TNAS PC desktop application, which is essentially a TerraMaster NAS finder. The setup process is pretty straightforward, through a wizard, and in full below: TOS 7 Initialization As you can see, TOS 7 received a new coat of paint, and the initialization requires fewer interactions. Happily, TOS no longer decides to throw all disks into the same Storage Pool; 2.5-inch HDDs are allocated into Storage Pool 1. This is because two of the HDDs are allocated to hold system files. Previously (with TOS 5 and 6), if you pre-installed HDDs and SSDs, they were all placed into Storage Pool 1, even if you did not select the SSDs for inclusion during the onboarding. TOS 7 Setup On first boot, there is a tutorial and some steps to take to harden the TNAS (or not), which includes an immediate update from TOS 7.0.0616 to 7.0.0706, of which the changelog screenshot is also included in the above gallery. It must be noted that the Security Advisor still contains (in my opinion) a pretty major bug in that if you enable SPC and then do the required rebooting, the Security Advisor still says that SPC is disabled. TerraMaster provided the following statement about it: It is disappointing that TOS 7 has been in beta since December, and this OOBE issue is still there. Shutdown option has moved Instead of a Taskbar option to manage the NAS, all of these options have been moved to the Control Panel, initially I did not see it and my contact had to show me how to power off the F4-425 Pro. To logout, reboot or power off you can find those controls at the top right of the Control Panel. It is also possible to power off through the TNAS mobile app beta. Storage setup Above, you can see the steps I took to create the Storage Pools and Volumes. I made a second Storage Pool using TRAID on two 4TB MP44Q SSDs (which, in this instance, is similar to RAID 5), and finally, I added the 250GB 970 Evo Plus drive as Hyper Cache on Storage Pool 1 in Balanced mode. Registering If you decide not to lock down the F4-425 Pro in Security Isolation Mode (blocking all external connections), then you could set up a TNAS device ID through the Remote Access setting in the Control Panel (which must be unique). This works in combination with an online TerraMaster account. TOS 7 TNAS Online Creating a TerraMaster account and linking the device online activates the warranty when you provide proof of purchase and the serial number, but it also gives you access through the TNAS mobile app, which allows you to complete certain operationsб including powering off and restarting the NAS remotely. A TNAS mobile update is required to gain access through TOS 7, and this is provided on the TerraMaster website, as it is not yet on Google Play. The app is evolving all the time and has made leaps and bounds since I first started reviewing TerraMaster devices almost three years ago. It is not quite there yet if you are comparing the likes of Synology, which, sadly, a lot of users online do all the time. OpenClaw setup One of the main selling points of the new F4-425 Pro is the inclusion of OpenClaw, with TerraMaster claiming that it is "powered by the world's first AI-native TOS 7 OS, supporting local-first smart workflows and independent data control." However, I immediately ran into problems trying to enable OpenClaw. After waiting 20 minutes at the "Enabling" message of the OpenClaw app following installation, I decided to do some searching online and discovered that it couldn't complete the installation process due to SPC being enabled, which is something TOS 7 immediately recommends to be enabled on first boot. SPC for NAS (TOS 7) is basically the same principle as UAC in Windows; it blocks executables from being launched by non-Super Users. After reaching out to my contact about these issues, I received the following response: Anyway, this only became clear when I closed the OpenClaw app screen and clicked on the OpenClaw icon in the taskbar; that is when I saw the message about disabling SPC. I think, due to the fact that this is a requirement, this should be a prompt during the installation process, not when closing the App Market and then trying to launch OpenClaw. There's also no 'Getting started' guide for people like me who have never used OpenClaw. I tried to add an LLM and discovered the tutorial led nowhere. That's when I started looking around the official TerraMaster forums, and I found a guide that helpfully explains that you won't get anywhere with OpenClaw unless you have a paid plan, which is disappointing because I imagined there would be an option to use a local LLM as I do in SubtitleEdit with Whisper-XXL. In addition, with the marketing imagery on the official site, it says that the OpenClaw feature is "all processed 100% locally for absolute privacy." which led me to believe that I could install a local LLM, not one that required paid tokens. In any case, TerraMaster does not provide guidance for this new feature, which was also a selling point of the F4-425 Pro! My contact also provided clarification about the above points I raised with TerraMaster Since it is not in the scope of the review to add paid services, I'll leave that to the people who are more qualified with OpenClaw. F4-425 Pro Surveillance App TOS also comes with a Surveillance app, which is not installed by default; it can be found in the App Market recommended section. In addition, after installing, it doesn't drop a shortcut on the Desktop or top taskbar, but you can "Send to Desktop" from the App Market listing for the app for a quick way to open it. Adding my Reolink POE doorbell camera was painless. TerraMaster doesn't appear to have a repository of preconfigured cameras; instead, the camera must be added using ONVIF or RTSP. No mobile Surveillance app TerraMaster still doesn't have a dedicated Surveillance app, although from searching online, Surveillance can be used and managed through the TNAS mobile app. I tried this with the updated TNAS mobile app beta in combination with TOS 7 and got a message that Surveillance was "Only accessible through web browser," so I reckon this must be limited to the stable versions of TOS 6 and the mobile app. More quirks In addition, whenever I minimized the Live View window in the browser Surveillance app, the feed appeared to switch to the Low-bandwidth stream, and there was no way to get the High-quality stream back. To get the High-quality stream back, I had to close Live View and then reopen it. Benchmarking A pretty cool feature of the TOS 7 is that it allows you to install directly to the NVMe M.2 SSD. In order to do that, you would have to leave out any HDDs during initialization, and even then, the system partitions are always written to two HDDs when they are eventually added. With three NVMe slots, this also gives an interesting scenario where you could build a TRAID storage Pool for installing all your apps and Docker on, and keep the third for SSD cache on the HDD pool. Limitless options! SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 A CrystalDiskMark test on a mapped network drive from within a Windows 11 25H2 PC (image above) connected over a 5 GbE hub was well within acceptable ranges. Although the read result on SATA was a little less than with the F4-425 Plus, for some reason, while writes were generally better. SATA PCIe 3.0 X1 I also ran the NAS Performance tester, which tests the link speed performance. As you can see, it pretty much maxes out the 5GbE connection. Of course, you can also opt to bond the two 5 GbE connections for a bit more umph, but I didn't do that. TOS 7, which, as of testing, is still in Beta, comes with an App Center that has a bunch of handy programs you can install right off the bat, such as Emby, Plex, Docker, as well as in-house Backup and Surveillance solutions. As you can imagine, any media streaming services you would want to host off the F4-425 Pro will work great, thanks to the Intel Core N350 CPU and its 16 GB of DDR5 memory. Accessing from mobile is only possible if Security Isolation Mode is disabled, which can put your NAS at risk from external sources, so there was no way to access it from the TNAS Mobile app. It's also quiet. I had this sat next to my computer on my work desk for the past week, and I did wonder if the noise I was accustomed to with NAS devices would annoy me, but all I could hear was a soft whirring of the rear fan (which was a little annoying) when the disks were not actively copying or reading data. Conclusion So what have I learned? Unfortunately, this release raises a few important questions and concerns that I feel haven't been adequately addressed. What I didn't like Our variant shipped with TOS 7 beta, and it's advised not to use it in a production environment. I feel that's a bit limiting on an $800 device. The mobile app is also still in beta and does not support some of the first-party apps, like Surveillance, and it still has quite a few bugs. I am a bit confused about the OpenClaw marketing along with the F4-425 Pro. I feel like that if it's going to be a main selling point, then offer official guidance on how to get started with it. TerraMaster recommends enabling SPC, but then markets the NAS for use with OpenClaw, which requires disabling SPC to be able to use it, opening up genuine security concerns for the NAS; and that's before you get into the security concerns of OpenClaw itself. Of course, the above issues won't be a problem if you decide to install something else on it, or even go back to the stable TOS 6. I wish TerraMaster had just given TOS 7 as opt-in rather than shipping with it. TOS 7 has been available as a preview since December 2025 (so well before my last TerraMaster review), and according to a thread on Reddit where a user shared a screenshot from the TerraMaster Facebook page, it is scheduled to launch today, June 23, but there's nothing about that in the TerraMaster news blog. My contact confirmed over email that TOS 7 exits beta today. The rubber feet also deserve a mention as they continue to be a problem, with them coming unstuck the moment you shift the F4-425 Pro anywhere on your desk. What I liked What it comes down to, though, aside from what I already mentioned, you are still getting a quality, affordable device here, so recommending it will depend on the individual's use case. If you're just looking for a relatively small NAS device to manage virtual machines on, backup your files, and take care of your home theater streaming, then it is a great device that will certainly futureproof you for some time. It provides good performance, takes up little space, and is, on the whole, very quiet. Four bays afford proper redundancy using TRAID or RAID 5, and you can even expand on storage capacity by adding the 2-bay D5, or 4-bay D8 Hybrid DAS over a USB 3.2 (10Gbps) link. Considering the 2024 releases were more about power, with the likes of an Intel Core i5-1235U high-end laptop CPU under the hood, I asked my contact last time if we could expect more of the same in higher-end models and was told: It makes a lot of sense to use Intel's N350 chip inside a NAS; it is more than capable of doing what the F4-425 Pro is intended for, media streaming and backup. The only downside is still the clear lack of community and even staff support on the official forums. In the past, I have had topics go unanswered for days, or there would be generic-type "we've noted this and passed it onto our developer team" type responses. Along with the other things I mentioned, it all ends up costing it a couple of points. If you are comfortable with the command line, Docker, and setting up TrueNAS or Unraid, you'll be fine. You can do great things with this hardware. In TOS, the apps are a bit lacking, and things don't always work as expected.\ AI NAS?! What has become clear to me this year is that we are going to start seeing all kinds of "AI NAS" come to market, and while that might be good for us consumers, be diligent and research these claims. Although the F4-425 Pro technically comes with AI, it is really using a cloud service that is externally sourced off-device through the third party OpenClaw app. My colleague did review a newcomer to the NAS space earlier this year, and it includes a local AI assistant inside the Zettlab D4 NAS, and they do not even use AI in the product name, check out Chris' review here. Where to buy and a discount coupon However, it does not change the fact that this is truly a great entry-level home media-class NAS that you can buy right now. TerraMaster is having a 20% off launch discount, plus you can also still apply our unique 10% off coupon on checkout, which only works on the official website. So here is a breakdown of the pricing that is only valid on the official TerraMaster website. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $575.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = $503.99 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £525.59 TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) + 20% discount + 10% coupon = £460.79 Use NEOWIN coupon code during checkout for 10% discount Over on Amazon US and UK, the F4-425 Pro also gets a 20% launch discount, but here, the above 10% coupon cannot be applied. TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for $639.99 at Amazon US (was $799.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for $559.99 at Amazon US (was $699.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N350) for £583.99 at Amazon UK (was £729.99) TerraMaster F4-425 Pro (N305) for £511.99 at Amazon UK (was £639.99) As an Amazon Associate, when you purchase through links on our site, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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